Help!!!!!!!! flowering stunted

PAulMarrow7

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Hello friends
Everything was going well until my girls started flowering. Pistills come out with burnt tips calyxes shrivel dont fatten up and no resin at all it keeps producing hundred little calyxes with burnt pistils:cuss: I had a ph issue when I checked my run off and it was 5.0 my ph meter needed calibration and I was watering with 5.5 instead of 6.5. They did not show any issues in growing phase, it all started with flowering. I flushed and ph is at 6.7. in soil but my girls are messed up. chemdog dry bud.jpg dry bud 2.png dry pistills.png chemdog 1 dry.jpg What should I do now feed? or just phd water. please anyone any advice :wall::fire::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::fire:
 

Indica Ed

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Are you allowing your water to sit out for 48 hours to make sure the chlorine has evaporated? If so then I would just use a tablespoon of molasses per gallon, instead of any fertilizer for a week. Make sure the soil is pretty dried out before watering also.
 

RM3

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Are you allowing your water to sit out for 48 hours to make sure the chlorine has evaporated? If so then I would just use a tablespoon of molasses per gallon, instead of any fertilizer for a week. Make sure the soil is pretty dried out before watering also.
useless notion since most every major city in the US stopped usin chlorine gas years ago, they use chloromine now and it does not evaporate no matter how long you let it sit out

I water with tap water all the time and have no issues chlorine IS one of the 16 elements that plants use
 

Indica Ed

Active Member
That cannot be true where I live. If I use water directly out of the tap it burns my leaves. But if I let it sit for a couple of days I have no issues.
 

PAulMarrow7

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Guys I use filter water all the time. no clorine unless they can be burn from over nute. I use a lot of P K with the advanced nutrients I use ,this is something I came along first time.:wall:
 

SPLFreak808

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That cannot be true where I live. If I use water directly out of the tap it burns my leaves. But if I let it sit for a couple of days I have no issues.
High chlorine levels in some citys can burn a plant the same way high iron/calcium levels could. That being said, if your chlorine levels are not sky rocket (which they probably are not) then you minus well drain the iron and calcium out of the tap while your at it. Have you read your tap contents yet? What kind of issues were you having?
 

Cannabil

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Are you allowing your water to sit out for 48 hours to make sure the chlorine has evaporated? If so then I would just use a tablespoon of molasses per gallon, instead of any fertilizer for a week. Make sure the soil is pretty dried out before watering also.
Plants need a small amount of chlorine to stay green. Chloramine is what is in ur water, chlorine bound w ammonium.

You can use BIOAG FULVEX, fulvic and humic acids break down chloramine as well as vitamin C (much higher doses needed I dont recommend this option since fulvex is an all around awesome product and beneficial not only to ur water but to ur roots as well). Get a bag and ur good to go if u dont have a good R/O unit that removes contaminants.

Once u balance your Ph and its back in a stable range dont worry man it happens. Just resume light feedings and once they start to recover and growth seems to begin looking good again. Slowly bring ur nutrients back up to where u want them. Obv a hiccup early in bloom kills yields it wont kill ur plants as long as u got it in time!

Have patience dont do anything crazy and make sure u know exact problem before u try fixing something otherwise u have 2 more problems. So if it was just a ph issue sont worry go easy and get back to feeding them at the proper ph. And always calibrate ur pens every few days if u can. If u dont use the storage solution they can fck up over night. Bluelab ph pens r the best and most stable. Exp but worth the extra $$
 

PAulMarrow7

Member
Plants need a small amount of chlorine to stay green. Chloramine is what is in ur water, chlorine bound w ammonium.

You can use BIOAG FULVEX, fulvic and humic acids break down chloramine as well as vitamin C (much higher doses needed I dont recommend this option since fulvex is an all around awesome product and beneficial not only to ur water but to ur roots as well). Get a bag and ur good to go if u dont have a good R/O unit that removes contaminants.

Once u balance your Ph and its back in a stable range dont worry man it happens. Just resume light feedings and once they start to recover and growth seems to begin looking good again. Slowly bring ur nutrients back up to where u want them. Obv a hiccup early in bloom kills yields it wont kill ur plants as long as u got it in time!

Have patience dont do anything crazy and make sure u know exact problem before u try fixing something otherwise u have 2 more problems. So if it was just a ph issue sont worry go easy and get back to feeding them at the proper ph. And always calibrate ur pens every few days if u can. If u dont use the storage solution they can fck up over night. Bluelab ph pens r the best and most stable. Exp but worth the extra $$
Thanks mate
Ill check about the product it will save me much time. I think it was ph issue and since its 25%soil 25% coco 50% perlite medium I am treating it like hydroponic. Ill upload some new pictures to get your opinion.
Cheers
 

Cannabil

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Thanks mate
Ill check about the product it will save me much time. I think it was ph issue and since its 25%soil 25% coco 50% perlite medium I am treating it like hydroponic. Ill upload some new pictures to get your opinion.
Cheers
I dont know exactly whats "wrong" with your plants because I dont know exactly whats going on and is hard to say just looking at pictures and the little information we have.

But if you are running coco mix like that you should have your ph around 5.8-6.0
It basically is hydro in a sense its soilless (drain to waste). If you have a mix like that you should really be feeding and watering almost daily or several times per day. Idk exactly how your setup is if your hand watering drain to waste, recirculating it or using flood tables??

Either way a mix made primarily from coco and perlite dries out very quickly. The nice thing about coco is that its a very good medium and has very good drainage and aeration you just need to remember that it absorbs nutrients and binds cal/mag so you need to make sure you are giving it good amounts of calmag if you are not using a coco formula base nutrient. Thats why they have specific coco formulas for running that medium which have the added cal/mag in it. This is especially important if you are using R/O water.

From what you have said thus far I would say it may be a ph issue, but it could also be under/over feeding. May be an issue with salt build up at the roots its hard to say. What base nutrient/additives and ppm have you been running so far and how often?

I dont know how things have been going since you flushed out the containers, but run off ph isnt really that accurate. I would suggest a blue lab ph meter probe you can put into the medium which will tell you exactly where you are at. Coco is bufffered to stay in the 5.5-6.2 ph range typically so as long as you are feeding in that range you should be fine. You never want to feed at the same ph everytime, since different nutrients get absorbed at different ph levels its good to fluctuate the feedings every few waterings. And remember that ph rises after a few hours once you feed. And if you were over feeding the salt accumulation over time will cause the ph too drop. So I would start by focusing on making sure your ph meter are calibrated and on point, and just continue feeding at mild strength nutrients after you flushed and wait to see how they respond. So watering at 5.8-6.0 is the best range to be around. Doesnt have to be exact.

The pistils with burnt tips could be from a few different things: light to close, over feeding, not watering enough, polinated etc.. So whenever you try and "fix" and issue just make sure that you know what is wrong before you make any drastic changes because then you may have new issues to deal with because you misdiagnosed the original problem. It sounds like you know what's wrong so flush them out get the ph back into range, make sure you are giving them enough cal/mag and base nutrients and that they respond well and turn around for the better. Just take it easy on the nutrients after you flush and don't let the containers dry out too much before you resume watering. You never want to feed nutrients on bone dry mediums. If they get very dry just use plain water to moisten the medium and flush out any build up in the containers and then feed them ph balanced water with your nutrients when the medium is moist. Otherwise you can have a high salt concentration and burn the roots and plant feeding that way. In flowering I like to do 50-50 moist-dry and never let them get very dry out completely ever. Most problems in flowering I find happen because people let the containers dry out too much like when they are in veg (which you want them to dry out so the roots can grow and stretch) this isn't the case in flowering. 50/50 is what you want or top 1-2 inches of medium before watering is ideal. Only during the last few weeks is when you want to go back to the 70-30 dry/wet cycle which aids in resin production etc.

Hope this helps good luck my friend!
 

caherbgrower

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Chlorine isn't the problem. On one of the photos it looks like a genetic mutation. I've run several plants of the same strain and have had one out of the bunch grow like that with the others flourishing. Believe it or not that plant is healthy, it just looks wierd. And I do see resin on the plant too! It's not caked up yet but it's starting.
 

Cannabil

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Chlorine isn't the problem. On one of the photos it looks like a genetic mutation. I've run several plants of the same strain and have had one out of the bunch grow like that with the others flourishing. Believe it or not that plant is healthy, it just looks wierd. And I do see resin on the plant too! It's not caked up yet but it's starting.
Its not one plant its all of them he said
 

Cannabil

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All of them look weird to me. They have really strange leaf growth and the flowers themselves look like they are growing very strange.

What strain is that anyways they all look different to me? One looks almost pink in color which is cool lol
 

GreenVision

Member
Hello friends
Everything was going well until my girls started flowering. Pistills come out with burnt tips calyxes shrivel dont fatten up and no resin at all it keeps producing hundred little calyxes with burnt pistils:cuss: I had a ph issue when I checked my run off and it was 5.0 my ph meter needed calibration and I was watering with 5.5 instead of 6.5. They did not show any issues in growing phase, it all started with flowering. I flushed and ph is at 6.7. in soil but my girls are messed up. View attachment 3462519 View attachment 3462521 View attachment 3462522 View attachment 3462532 What should I do now feed? or just phd water. please anyone any advice


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Are you spraying any kind of substance like pest control or foliar spray? Because this looks like either something is being put directly on the plants, you have a bug / fungus issue or your plant is trying to re-veg. Maybe your lights were left on or the light schedule has been tampered with?
GV.
 

Cannabil

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You should have left it at that..
Ok. So, What plants look good to you may I ask? None of them look good to me. The leaves are all crinkled, shriveled, dark green and crispy looking. And the buds dont look good either are the pistils are shriveled and brown and most of them have no pistils even growing.

Idk what kind of bud you grow but your flowers should all have nice long white elongated pistils that are stretched out searching for pollin. So unless they have been pollinated or are done flowering, they should not look like that at all.

Maybe you know something that I don't but we are both looking at the same pictures and the guy growing them even said they aren't growing right. So I'll take my assumptions and base it off what the OP said and go with the fact they are over fed and ph is wrong. And he can tell you whats going on for himself.

Post some whole plant pictures and updates. Than we can look and find out what is really going on
 

caherbgrower

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Instead of biting on your bait I'll offer you this. I've read your posts and I see what you're about. My friendly advice would be for you to sit back and observe before mixing things up, spewing nonsense, and starting arguments. Maybe you could throw up some photos of your work and show these guys on here that you have some sort of credibility, and we should listen to you.
 

Cannabil

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Instead of biting on your bait I'll offer you this. I've read your posts and I see what you're about. My friendly advice would be for you to sit back and observe before mixing things up, spewing nonsense, and starting arguments. Maybe you could throw up some photos of your work and show these guys on here that you have some sort of credibility, and we should listen to you.
Obviously you don't look through my posts because I have alot of photos on here on many threads with many likes. So do your hw. Furthering the conversation I don't spew non sense I spew personal experience and information which I have first hand knowledge that works for me. Everyone has their own way of doing things just because you may not agree with something I say doesn't make you right nor makes me wrong. Simply a matter of a difference of opinion. The beauty of this is there is no one way to do anything, theres many ways to get to the same place which is producing quality meds.

Check the posts I have alot of photos up. And photos don't reallly prove anything to be completely honest. But thats a whole nother conversation in itself.
 

Cannabil

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And what bait? I asked you to explain your reasoning. Its a simple question that can be answered in a few short sentences, or some paragraphs whatever you may choose. I find whenever someone has something negative to say they are merely deflecting the fact that they don't have a good answer to a question so they feel the need to turn to insults and childish behavior such as what you displayed instead of providing sound reasoning for your comments. Have a nice weekend bud.
 
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