help i have tried everything to try recover these babys?

olly perry

olly perry

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Hello I'm growing in coco they have been watered plain water for the first 10 days of there life and at 14 days old they stopped growing and looked ill ( dead leaf and pale yellow other ones) so I added coco a and b for a week with still no improvement I have now started just watering with rhysotonic to see if I can recover the work and time I have put into them plus I really need them to bounce back there are three strains there.
 

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GuyLeDuche

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I don't grow coco but it's my understanding that you have to supply all nutes, the medium has none so my guess would be starvation... It's not uncommon to see slow growth at that stage when the roots are developing, I think that may have been the feed week when it looked like nothing was happening? Maybe they were blasting every drop of food into the rootzone?
 
olly perry

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GuyLeDuche said:
I don't grow coco but it's my understanding that you have to supply all nutes, the medium has none so my guess would be starvation... It's not uncommon to see slow growth at that stage when the roots are developing, I think that may have been the feed week when it looked like nothing was happening? Maybe they were blasting every drop of food into the rootzone?
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i am more worried about the look of them and the colour of the leafs than how slow they are growing?
 
GuyLeDuche

GuyLeDuche

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Yea I guess I'm just thinking that's how my clones look if they don't root, they eat themselves... You gave them a small taste of food and maybe they put it all into underground root growth to try to find more, so you aren't seeing actual growth.
 
olly perry

olly perry

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ok do you think in time they will recover i just cant risk them dying? so its not a ph or nute lock ?
 
olly perry

olly perry

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a freind of mine said they need to me more humide and be place in a propagator im certain than wouldnt be a good idea?
 
GuyLeDuche

GuyLeDuche

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I always hear coco guys say they use 5.8ph, so I doubt that's an issue unless your tester is wrong. I have saved plants that looked worse with time and care, but just like with us people, stress on plants can have long term consequences. I would give them 1/4 strength feed, cal-mag, and silicate if you have it but again I have no exp with your nute line so seek confirmation at least.
 
olly perry

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i dunno if i should wait to see if they recover with the rhysotonic then try say adding cal-mag and silicate im even unsure what they are and where to source them cheap?
 
MeJuana

MeJuana

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Are you using chlorinated tap water without letting it degas? Did you have your tap water tested before deciding to use it for aeroponics? If you don't have the tools for aero you might want to consider growing in dirt until you get it together as dirt is more forgiving in my opinion.
 
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THE KONASSURE

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was the coco clean ?

Some coco has pests in it, seedlings normally can go 2 weeks in coco with tap water, more perlite they can go a bit longer but it is wise to feed them by day 10 or 20
 
olly perry

olly perry

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MeJuana said:
Are you using chlorinated tap water without letting it degas? Did you have your tap water tested before deciding to use it for aeroponics? If you don't have the tools for aero you might want to consider growing in dirt until you get it together as dirt is more forgiving in my opinion.
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im unsure about my tap water but i allow it to stand for a day or two before watering. i use coco as i growing medium instead of soil as its the only way i was taught
 
olly perry

olly perry

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THE KONASSURE said:
was the coco clean ?

Some coco has pests in it, seedlings normally can go 2 weeks in coco with tap water, more perlite they can go a bit longer but it is wise to feed them by day 10 or 20
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canna coco basic. im unsure but i pre soak/wash it with tap water sqeeze all the extra water out and put it in the pots to begain with
 
olly perry

olly perry

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GuyLeDuche said:
Well I think rhizotonic is just for stimulating healthy roots, but doesn't contain much actual food. I use pretty cheap stuff from Dynagro like this for silicate

http://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Gro-Pro-tekt-Tek-008-Silicon-Supplement/dp/B000OWMTZI?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01

I don't add Cal, but for Mag I add 1 teaspoon of Epsom Salt to a gallon of water, that can be had for $1 almost anywhere ;)
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thanks ill try mag on one of them see if it helps on the next feed which is going to be caanna a and b 4 ml of each in 5l water plus 14ml of rhysotonic in there to them ph altered to 5.9 area
 
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THE KONASSURE

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olly perry said:
canna coco basic. im unsure but i pre soak/wash it with tap water sqeeze all the extra water out and put it in the pots to begain with
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yeah canna should be ok they normally sterilize or fume it, some times its full of bug eggs or gets contaminated

Is it pure coco ? I normally add perlite
 
olly perry

olly perry

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THE KONASSURE said:
yeah canna should be ok they normally sterilize or fume it, some times its full of bug eggs or gets contaminated

Is it pure coco ? I normally add perlite
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its pure coco but im going to do a perlite mix on the repot if this will help me also i have something in my head telling me that a little perlite layer on the bottom of the pot just below the coco mix helps drainage aswell?
 
MeJuana

MeJuana

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I add a layer of perelite on the bottom for both coco and soil. But if you are going to transplant I recommend that you put them in starting soil mixed 50/50 with perelite.

You will have some perelite come out of planters with large holes.. Not a lot though just the odd chunk.
 
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