Help identify my deficiencies please!!

bsturman92

Member
hey guys so been about a week since transplant and so far so good. Although I have been having a issue with a couple things

1.) throughout most the week the plants have been discolored in some spots and is curling

2.) plant leaves (on big and small plants) are curling up

Here are some pics for examples. If you guys could tell me what you think j would appreciate it

i have been rotating between water/ feed every other day.. so water one day, skip a day, then feed, then skip a day, and so on......

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polishpollack

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need you to write more describing the grow. what ferts, what soil, what air temp. seems like you're watering too much. you should let soil dry out. following the feed, water feed idea may not be a good thing.
 

Semper.Fi

Well-Known Member
Anything flying around in the tent YET??

Look like some insect/bug distortion on some of the leaves.

Yes agree with ^^polishP^^ could do with a bit more info; the soil used, the nutrient line up, PH of things, EC of things (if you own an EC meter), temps, RH etc.

It will help us all much more to help you :)

~_
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
If you are fedding every other day you most likely are not deficient if using a complete fertilizing regimen. Brand names? Dosage? Are you using city water from the tap? Some taps can have a pH over 8 with very high amounts of dissolved solids and it could be throwing your numbers off (pH, and ppm's). You are most likely seeing a lockout not a deficiency. It appears deficient even though the.nutrients are there BC they are either not balanced when absorbed or locked out. Are you adjusting and testing your water and nutrient solution?
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
Yeah the way that one leaf is growing curled horizontally I'd bet there is an imbalance causing toxicity. Flush with distilled water and reapply a balanced and ph'd nute solution afterwards. Then see if things improve on the new growth. You shouldn't be feeding full strength every other day either depending on what your using. Keep it simple. Resist the urge to grow the biggest and best plant ever. Its all in the genetics. Be patient and after a few grows you will know when and how to push your plants.
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
Add your nutes to clean RO or distilled water. All that watering can be leaving toxic amounts of salts and who knows what else behind as well as buildup from your feedings ever other day causing your lockout/toxicity/balance. Check all your numbers. If you aren't able to do that, flush like I recommended and thensooner the better. If you have a flushing agent handy use it!
 

bsturman92

Member
Thanks for all the replies guys. I am growing in 100% coco. Using mills nutrients at about week 2 strength as well as adding 5ml per gallon of cal mag. I am ph'ing the water to about 5.7-5.8. And yes I am using city tap water that is about 8.0 roughly untouched. And temps are averaging about 80 with lights on and 74 with lights off. And RH stays around 40-50
 

bsturman92

Member
And I'm not feeding every other day. I'm switching between water and feed every other day. So let's say I would water Monday. Then feed we'd. Then water Friday. Then feed Sunday.
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
Go online and find the consumer quality report for your water supply. It will give you the ppm's and a breakdown of what's in your water. For example I have never lived anywhere where I could use the tap BC it caused problems similar to yours. I would try it out on one plant while the rest got distilled water and I would get similar responses to yours. Where I live now my tap has a ppm of 240 with 220 of that being calcium carbonate, 9 ppm of chlorides, and the rest being small amounts of trace elements. When chlorides from the tap oxidize they form 'trihalo...' Something's, can't remember the spelling, that are toxic. So check your water report! Some cities have ppm's near or over 700!! Its quite common actually so find out asap! That's a lot of stuff for young plants to be absorbing!
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
An inexpensive carbon filter, like something from the store for drinking water will get most everything out and bring the ppm's down significantly. Then you can let the water rest in jugs for 24hrs for the chlorine and chloramine to burn off. I also add a small amount of vitamin C to mine. It is an antioxidant, and will wipe out any remaining chlorides rendering your water much safer than it was initially. If in tablet form remove the coating first! And a typical tablet can do like 500 gal of water so it doesn't take much. Eventually you should invest in a good purification system. It will pay for itself rather quickly. I do this to my water and every other week I go purchase several gallons of distilled water. The better the water the better off your plants will be..it sounds like you have everything else pretty much dialed in. I t must be your water supply :) IMO
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
Humic acid also eradicates much of the chlorides so if your coco didn't come with any additives you need to check your nutrient labels and see if its in any of them, if not it is a must! Go get something from your local shop or online that can supplement your feedings.
 

bsturman92

Member
well i also tested my ph pen and it was reading .4-.5 higher than wat is rly was.. i have calibrated this shitty thing almost every use... so rly my ph levels have been about 5.2-5.3 so i think i need to upgrade.. i have a Milwaukee ph600.. blue lab is prob the way to go huh? and i checked my local water... says our drinking water is considered HARD... says 3.0 grains of hardness per gall.?
 

CjSesh0000

New Member
Well there ya have it. pH is too low for drain to waste in containers. Don't try to correct the situation all at once, just do your waterings and feedings at a reasonably higher pH like 7.5 and check your runoff, don't check the initial runoff. Test it as it tapers down and is slowly coming out of the bottoms and almost done. This is a very easy problem to get under control. Yes bluelab is praised as the best but as long as you clean and calibrate your probes you should be just fine. Now as to the 3,grains, if that is mostly calcium you should be OK as coco tends to rob the plant significantly of calcium. Find out what is exactly in your water if you don't plan on filtering it. Keep in mind that the water is depositing its contents into your substrate every time you apply it. Imagine how much could be in there by the time your babies begin flowering! That could potentially cause problems again for you. You might have to dig deep to find it or make a call or email to get your hands on a specific report but is essential you do. It will blow your mind if you live in a big city the actual contents of your h2o. Arsenic, cyanide, just to name a couple. No joke. I live in the mountains and get mine from snow melt runoff from a canyon and it requires me to adjust my calcium. Its that significant. So do some digging, calibrate your pH meter , and Bring up the reading of your substrate(coco) and those babies will flourish. It sounds like you know what you are doing and you will be rewarded for the effort. Cheers!
 

bsturman92

Member
well this ph pen i have i keep calibrating and its is off so much.. im out of ph7 solution now so i cant even calibrate it or see how off it is. so unfortunetely i have to go buy a new one which kinda sucks. so what would you think be best solution? maybe get a water filter and just use that? i also add 5ml of calmag to each gallon as well
 

bsturman92

Member
so after looking at my local city water report.. which last one was in 2014.. it says it falls in the slightly hard range with about 3.0 grains per gallon.. which after converting that to ppm goes to 51.4ppm? does that seem really low?
 
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