Help - Im about to lose another batch of rooted clones

remember by watering them in the soil the plant can hardly absorb food because there is no root system to transport the food to the right place so foliar feeding is your best bet, but some yellowing in common when cloning but don't worry as soon as they root you will get new growth real quick..

You also wanna clip the ends off the fan leaves off so the cutting can transpire water easier

His clones are already rooted. That's also not the reason you clip the leaves. You clip the leaves so there is less surface area to transpire because the plant isn't able to take up as much water with no roots.

mj320002 said:

His clones are already rooted. That's also not the reason you clip the leaves. You clip the leaves so there is less surface area to transpire because the plant isn't able to take up as much water with no roots.

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NOPE i have to disagree on the reasons you (claim) to clip then ends of the leave so you might wanna do a little research on the matter

^If I'm not mistaken, the leaves are kept minimal so that the cutting directs more of it's energy towards rooting, rather than expend it trying to grow upwards.

From what I know and was told by someone that knows alot about growing (owns a chain of hydro stores) is that clipping the ends of the leaves helps them breathe better and get rid of excess water. All I know is I clip mine and never had a problem with cloning but if it ain't broke then don't fix it

I don't clip mine, not unless they are rather large leaves. Honestly, I don't think it makes much difference, as long as the humidity is kept up, and the light isn't too intense. Mine always sprout roots at about the same time, whether clipped, or not.

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From what I know and was told by someone that knows alot about growing (owns a chain of hydro stores) is that clipping the ends of the leaves helps them breathe better and get rid of excess water. All I know is I clip mine and never had a problem with cloning but if it ain't broke then don't fix it

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Not sure which hydro store you shop at bro but MJ dude is right...You cut the leaves so they transpire less because they don't have roots to supply the new cutting...Also, he said his clones are already well rooted so they should be taking up whatever amount of nutes the plant needs...Foliar feed them and see if that helps....You said you use Roots Organic, are you using Trinity too? You should be feeding them Trinity once a week...

Wow these people are clueless! Has anyone giving advice actually grown plants before?

Clearly a nutrient lack. They need nitrogen! They need a Grow/Veg type base nutrient that includes everything they need (macro and micro nutrients, carbs, etc)

And I would suggest PH around 5.5-6 for fewer issues.

Foliar feed to correct the nutrient lack immediately.

Roots Organics soil only has enough nutes for 2-3 weeks of a plant's life. Not including things like flushing and heavy watering. I use a good bit of their products. I like their newer soiless blend that has no nutrients in it, for easier feeding.

^LOL, No doubt, I was wondering how the topic shifted to leaf cutting.

Here is the progress as of this morning. The two additional pics in the series were taken yesterday at 3:30pm just prior to watering and at 8am this morning (a little over 17 hours after watering with 50% nute solution: 6.5ph 550ppm in, 6.2ph 1500ppm runoff).

It dosnt appear as if the problem is getting worse... but it dosnt appear to be getting better either.

This evening they will get a 25% veg solution foliar feed to help boost nutrient levels.

Anyone else suggest something else I could be doing to help?

looks like nitrogen...or ph lockout

my money is on nutrient lockout, check your ph man.. report back soon.\

care,

7T

I'd say lockout too, if I had to take a guess. What's so tough to believe, is that they could go downhill soooo fast. 4 Days? If they're locked, they REALLY locked, completely. It just seems really odd that the yellowing isn't uniform, like most nitrogen deficiencies. IDK, I'll still go with "lockout", for now.

P.S. If the problem is fixed, it'll take 3+ days to see a noticeable difference. I'd be patient, because they might be fine. Stick with the foliar though, til you're sure.

Thanks Everyone for the advice-

On the PH front - Last I watered the runoff was 6.2 (6.5 going in) and 1500ppm (550 going in). PH wasnt off as drastically as I would expect it to be when the symptoms have developed as quickly as they have here.

Is 25% concentration about the level to run a foliar at? Im guessing that will put me at around 250ppm. And is this a several times a day type of thing, or just before the lights come back on?

Ive got quite a few suggestions from people on what to use, but the products I have on hand are listed below. Im not completely against picking up something new if its the holy grail - but id hate to grow my nutrient collection more if its not really necessary.

Nutes available:
Cutting Edge Solutions Grow/Bloom/Micro Series
Cutting Edge Solutions Plant Amp (Calcium) / Uncle Johns (Potash) / MagAmped (Magnesium/Sulfur)
Cutting Edge Solutions Grex (root enhancer) and Sugartree (Trichrome Enhancer?)
Liquid Karma
Super Thrive
TigerBloom
GrowBig
BigBloom
Dutch Masters Zone
MagiCal

how many times have you used the superthrive?

It was used only once, after the initial transplant at a rate of 1 drop/cup.

Can it be used in a foliar spray?

dude that hormone will herm plants if its overused. that really looks like ph lockout

If you're pouring in 500 PPM and getting 1500 on the runoff, that indicates likely nutelock. For your runoff to come out that high, there has to be a shitload of excess nutes/satls/waste in your soil. Flush man, flush. Then feed with 1/2 strength. Keep the 25% foliar too, that help speed up recovery.