Help!? Is this a Mg deficiency?

the.underachiever

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I think this is a magnesium deficiency, but I'm not sure. What do you guys think? My ph is 7, and the ec of my tap water is 400 ppm. ???
This is frustrating. I have started adding epsom salts to my water, but I am still getting a few leaves that go yellow/rusty, and dry up.
 

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babygro

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I think this is a magnesium deficiency, but I'm not sure. What do you guys think? My ph is 7, and the ec of my tap water is 400 ppm. ???
This is frustrating. I have started adding epsom salts to my water, but I am still getting a few leaves that go yellow/rusty, and dry up.
Definitely Mg deficiency - the excess Calcium Carbonate in your high ppm water is locking Mg out of the soil. To cure it, keep feeding epsom salts or get an RO machine to remove the excess salts. The RO machine is the only long term answer otherwise you have to keep feeding epsom salts and even then it only holds it in check ie prevents it from worsening it doesn't actually make it go away.
 

the.underachiever

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That's what it seems to be. My water is super hard. I have started adding epsom salts, and it seems to be in check, but does not reverse. The leaves stay dead:(

Thanks for the opinions though. This was really bugging me.
 

Stoneshield

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u can use distilled water in the meantime. may only be a buck a gallon. with ro and distilled make sure u use cal/amg of some sort. goodtimez
 

bobbyhopefeild

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I think this is a magnesium deficiency, but I'm not sure. What do you guys think? My ph is 7, and the ec of my tap water is 400 ppm. ???
This is frustrating. I have started adding epsom salts to my water, but I am still getting a few leaves that go yellow/rusty, and dry up.
looks more like leaf fungus to me
 

woodsmaneh!

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I'm on a well and the water is hard as hell, got a good water softener and all is well my plants love where they live. No they don't put salt in the water.

Manganese (Mn)
  • Symptoms: Growth slows. Younger leaves turn pale yellow, often starting between veins. May develop dark or dead spots. Leaves, shoots and fruit diminished in size. Failure to bloom.
  • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'manganese' or 'manganous'


Here is a help list

Plant Nutrient Deficiency Symptoms

Macronutrients


  • Calcium (Ca)
    • Symptoms: New leaves are distorted or hook shaped. The growing tip may die. Contributes to blossom end rot in tomatoes, tip burn of cabbage and brown/black heart of escarole & celery.
    • Sources: Any compound containing the word 'calcium'. Also gypsum.
    • Notes: Not often a deficiency problem and too much will inhibit other nutrients.

    Nitrogen (N)
    • Symptoms: Older leaves, generally at the bottom of the plant, will yellow. Remaining foliage is often light green. Stems may also yellow and may become spindly. Growth slows.
    • Sources: Any compound containing the words: 'nitrate', 'ammonium' or 'urea'. Also manure.
    • Notes: Many forms of nitrogen are water soluble and wash away.

    Magnesium (Mg)
    • Symptoms: Slow growth and leaves turn pale yellow, sometimes just on the outer edges. New growth may be yellow with dark spots.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the word 'magnesium', such as Epson Salts.

    Phosphorus (P)
    • Symptoms: Small leaves that may take on a reddish-purple tint. Leaf tips can look burnt and older leaves become almost black. Reduced fruit or seed production.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'phosphate' or 'bone'. Also greensand.
    • Notes: Very dependent on pH range.

    Potassium (K)
    • Symptoms: Older leaves may look scorched around the edges and/or wilted. Interveinal chlorosis (yellowing between the leaf veins) develops.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'potassium' or 'potash'.

    Sulfur (S)
    • Symptoms: New growth turns pale yellow, older growth stays green. Stunts growth.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the word 'sulfate'.
    • Notes: More prevalent in dry weather.

Micronutrients



  • Boron (B)
    • Symptoms: Poor stem and root growth. Terminal (end) buds may die. Witches brooms sometimes form.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'borax' or 'borate'.

    Copper (Cu)
    • Symptoms: Stunted growth. Leaves can become limp, curl, or drop. Seed stalks also become limp and bend over.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'copper', 'cupric' or 'cuprous'.

    Manganese (Mn)
    • Symptoms: Growth slows. Younger leaves turn pale yellow, often starting between veins. May develop dark or dead spots. Leaves, shoots and fruit diminished in size. Failure to bloom.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'manganese' or 'manganous'

    Molybdenum (Mo)
    • Symptoms: Older leaves yellow, remaining foliage turns light green. Leaves can become narrow and distorted.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the words 'molybdate' or 'molybdic'.
    • Notes: Sometimes confused with nitrogen deficiency.

    Zinc (Zn)
    • Symptoms: Yellowing between veins of new growth. Terminal (end) leaves may form a rosette.
    • Sources: Compounds containing the word 'zinc'.
    • Notes: Can become limited in higher pH.
 
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