^^^HELP ME BUILD A 4000w GROWROOM^^^ ++REP

GuerrillaGreenery

GuerrillaGreenery

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Lettem Bustas Hang said:
Wow man, I would be more then happy to help you out. Dont worry about my post's or anything, because I am not a noob.
But 3G's is alot of money. You definitly are going to get somewhere and you have a good future of growing ahead of you man.
Im thrilled to see someone put so much effort in a project.

LBH
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Yea im definitly Hoping to get this up and running on under $3000. I havent found anything cheaper than $250 for a 1000w complete system. So i looks like thats a grand off top just for lights unless i can find them cheaper. I would like to find somewhere cool where i can buy all 4 lights for maybe around $150-$180. $700-$800 tops for all 4. Thats what i would like but a grand on light which means I have about $2000 to work everything else out. But I would love to have you around for ideas and shit because lately its been overwhelming just all of this running through my head.

I need to get to the shopping part guys!!!!!
What should I buy first? I need to get this thing going. Im gonna go in the morning and take a lot of pictures just so you guys can have the visual. The floorplan is just like my drawing but im gonna give you some pics so let me know what I need to start getting together. I appreciate all your ideas and brainstorms. Keep it coming we are just getting started!
 
GuerrillaGreenery

GuerrillaGreenery

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NLXSK1 said:
Understand, the 1000W pull ALOT of power. They take 9 amps. My dehumidifier takes up to 6 amps. My fans take 2-3 amps. 6 would be good but you can probably do it easily with 5. Remember the AC and appliances will be on other circuits in the panel.
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But the AC is on a seperate circuit right? dosent it have its own circuit? I just looked at my circuit box in my apartment and in here it does.
 
GuerrillaGreenery

GuerrillaGreenery

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puffntuff said:
If I was you I would run the 60amp subpanel and redo your outlets to be 220. The ballast that use 220 run more efficient and run cooler.
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What would be the advantages of running the 60amp sub panel?
And I dont want to hire anybody for any jobs, I will have to be the one doing it so if I have to hire a electrician thats a no go..
 
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SwiftGrow

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Heyas Guerrilla you got lots reading to do for sure. Electricity well only use 80% of your max amperage for each breaker. I run a 25 amp breaker so in theory I can run up to around 18-20 amps on that breaker safely. If you check my Journal youll see a picture of a Master Lighting Controller from C.A.P. its a 4 light controller 240/120v in and 4 120/240 outlets and a 120 trigger cable. My friend Dad is master electrician and installed the breaker for us and ran 240v cabling to the Lighting controller. This way I run half the amperage on 240v for my lights. Everything else I run 120v, fans , pumps, flouros, etc. You dont need an electrician its basic stuff but general knowledge about electricity helps a ton. I spent around 10,000$ on my set up and its half the size your speaking of doing. You really need to make a list of all the items and prices you can aquire them for and post it so people can tell you what your forgetting and if theres a better alternative for cheaper. 3,000$ sounds like alot of money but when Lights, Carbon filter, Fans, Testers etc are all expensive things add up really quickly. Also dont forget mediums, nutrients and all the crap you need once you get going. As far as learning how to setup a grow room theres a million post on this website about that I would highly suggest surfing through journals and the grow room setup forums.

Amperage = Wattage/Voltage

1200w of HPS + 36w per LED = 1272 watts / 240v = 5.3 amps.... thats all I use on my breaker LOL

If i was running 120v it would be 10.6 amps. The main benefit of running 240v is to limit amperage thus reducing needs for more breakers etc. Also running 240v wire is a better wire with less loss over distance. Some argue that 240v is cheaper than 120v but the math tells you that your electrical bill will be the same. Also by running Lights and larger wattage devices on separate breaker avoids any overloading of circuits and electricity spikes and sags.

Best of Luck
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html
 
GuerrillaGreenery

GuerrillaGreenery

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SwiftGrow said:
Heyas Guerrilla you got lots reading to do for sure. Electricity well only use 80% of your max amperage for each breaker. I run a 25 amp breaker so in theory I can run up to around 18-20 amps on that breaker safely. If you check my Journal youll see a picture of a Master Lighting Controller from C.A.P. its a 4 light controller 240/120v in and 4 120/240 outlets and a 120 trigger cable. My friend Dad is master electrician and installed the breaker for us and ran 240v cabling to the Lighting controller. This way I run half the amperage on 240v for my lights. Everything else I run 120v, fans , pumps, flouros, etc. You dont need an electrician its basic stuff but general knowledge about electricity helps a ton. I spent around 10,000$ on my set up and its half the size your speaking of doing. You really need to make a list of all the items and prices you can aquire them for and post it so people can tell you what your forgetting and if theres a better alternative for cheaper. 3,000$ sounds like alot of money but when Lights, Carbon filter, Fans, Testers etc are all expensive things add up really quickly. Also dont forget mediums, nutrients and all the crap you need once you get going. As far as learning how to setup a grow room theres a million post on this website about that I would highly suggest surfing through journals and the grow room setup forums.

Amperage = Wattage/Voltage

1200w of HPS + 36w per LED = 1272 watts / 240v = 5.3 amps.... thats all I use on my breaker LOL

If i was running 120v it would be 10.6 amps. The main benefit of running 240v is to limit amperage thus reducing needs for more breakers etc. Also running 240v wire is a better wire with less loss over distance. Some argue that 240v is cheaper than 120v but the math tells you that your electrical bill will be the same. Also by running Lights and larger wattage devices on separate breaker avoids any overloading of circuits and electricity spikes and sags.

Best of Luck
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html
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All of that makes a lot of sense. Thanks man youre making all of that really easy to understand.

I just made a little list of stuff but o accidentlly hit the back button and it all dissapeared so were gonna try this again lol. Ok so this list is just a start. all of the major things that I think will get me growing. But add to it if i missed anything.

4 x 1000w hps systems--------No more than $1050.... Im waiting on a phone call for 4 lights 4 $700 bucks!
4 x 6'' inline fans--------------- No more than $70/fan... Ebay or amazon
1 x Light controller------------- No more than $200....... HTG supply $175
1x dehumidifier/ portable a/c -----------------http://www.amazon.com/Soleus-Air-PH4-13R-01-Evaporative-Dehumidifier/dp/B002VUCA5U/ref=sr_1_16?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1292544569&sr=1-16

24 x 5 gallon pots
120-150 gallons of soil or coco

please add on people
 
GuerrillaGreenery

GuerrillaGreenery

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Im seriously thinking of maybe just doing 2 or 3 lights. I would like to do a nice 4000w grow but $3000 is not enough to get everything i need. and running this many watts and power im gonna need to do some electrical work. I figure 3000w 18 plants. I could get 3 lights for around $650 and that would save me a good extra $300-$350 bucks and that goes a long way. so i think that might be a more realistic approach to this grow and my budget. what do you guys think?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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GuerrillaGreenery said:
Im seriously thinking of maybe just doing 2 or 3 lights. I would like to do a nice 4000w grow but $3000 is not enough to get everything i need. and running this many watts and power im gonna need to do some electrical work. I figure 3000w 18 plants. I could get 3 lights for around $650 and that would save me a good extra $300-$350 bucks and that goes a long way. so i think that might be a more realistic approach to this grow and my budget. what do you guys think?
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Even 2 lights would be good. 1000W supposedly has a 20square foot footprint. that is a 4x5 area approximately. You can cover 5'x8' with good light with just 2 of them. 3 is fine too, that would be 60 sq ft.
 
GuerrillaGreenery

GuerrillaGreenery

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NLXSK1 said:
Even 2 lights would be good. 1000W supposedly has a 20square foot footprint. that is a 4x5 area approximately. You can cover 5'x8' with good light with just 2 of them. 3 is fine too, that would be 60 sq ft.
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3000w. what kind of energy consumption is that comparable to as far as regular energy use? like what kind of appliances could comsume that much power?
 
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