Help Me Revive her Please

JonnyBtreed

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lol, I found the one thing that miracle grow soil is really good for. When I move trees or am amending soil when I plant or move trees, the MG soil is great. The tree takes right off blasting out new growth... But those are 10ft trees :) I can't imagine what they were thinking when they made that product for annuals???
 

masterd

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ill agree with that from the research ive dont the mineral salt levels in MG soil are 2 high and they love using the wrong type of nitrogen in theyre soils, its ends up burning them or locking out other nutes, but ive never used it, but everyone ive talked to has had atleast one bad experience with it lately, which is enough for me 2 never use it. but yeah mate your plant is looking alot better, looks like its starting to recover, also if its got slow release nutes lushing it will only bring more nutes out(made this mistake twice now), maybe some 1/4 strength nutes? does kinda look like a deficiency but it could be a lock out..
 

JonnyBtreed

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ill agree with that from the research ive dont the mineral salt levels in MG soil are 2 high and they love using the wrong type of nitrogen in theyre soils, its ends up burning them or locking out other nutes, but ive never used it, but everyone ive talked to has had atleast one bad experience with it lately, which is enough for me 2 never use it. but yeah mate your plant is looking alot better, looks like its starting to recover, also if its got slow release nutes lushing it will only bring more nutes out(made this mistake twice now), maybe some 1/4 strength nutes? does kinda look like a deficiency but it could be a lock out..
Then you didn't flush it enough. If your trying to flush the nutes out I'd use at least 10-15X the amount of gallon pot. i.e. one gallon pot, flush with 10 gal of water and it'll be fine.
 

Foolieo

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Here is alittle update. 1 week in her new chamber. i let her dry out real good and just watered her this am with just distilled tap water.

There is MUCH improvement in her health. She has really taken off. How ever.
What is going on with her lower leaves. is that nute burn? I know i dont water to often. could i be given her to much at once? i tend to feed her with a drinking cup slowly around entire plant till i see water drain outa the holes slowly.

I want to Put this into flowering this weakend. I will need to take my clones back out :-/ its looking like they will just be outside the chamber in my room under some lights and a fan. oh well...

Whats a good role on paint i could use to go over some spots that are leaking light in my cabinet? its a plastic cabinet i used krylon spray but it kinda sucks. and now that i have stuff in it i dont want to be spraying.

Is this thing going to be huge when i flower? in the last 2 days it has really become solid
 

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wyteboi

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For flower i would use double the bulbs u are useing now, that plant is pretty dense now so it will be hard for the cfl to penetrate through all that............
 

Foolieo

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She was pretty dry when i woke this am. so i gave it half a day and watered her. Ph tested the water before watering 6.6 ph tested the run off 6.7 thats with in reason and not enough to be the problem correct? tired of her droppy
 

wyteboi

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did u ever start useing nutes ? how hot is it in there ?............i am really thinkin its that soil throwin your ph way off,, it started lookin like mine , now its lookin more like mine , i would say get it outta that soil seriously, even if u have to fuck the roots all up doin it! Dont forget the pics in post #19 !! the only other thing is they kinda look dry, are u gettin um nice an wet?........then they should dry up in 3 or 4 days ?
 

Foolieo

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ok so say im going to replant. i want a soil with no nutes in it at all. that means i will then need to by nutes? or is the shultz 10-15-10 enough for everything? is it better to replant when the soil is dried out?
 

wyteboi

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When i replanted mine , i didnt care if the soil was wet or dry, i just pulled um out.......destroyed the roots (cause i was going from a 2 gallon to another 2 gallon so i had no choice) and put them right into promix where they immediatly took off !! dont worry bout food too much just yet.... we gotta get them thangs right before we worry bout food. (just a note: i have done more then one crop Without food at all...) i would recommend foxfarm soil With nutes in it.......... but promix is WAY cheaper and can be found at local nursery/plant store. That shultz bloom is fine but it is kinda hard to use cause its so strong..............u tell ME how much the box/bottle says to use and i'll re-vamp that for u , an we can go from there...? IF u have the money and a local hydro shop then Yes go buy foxfarm or happy frog soil.
 
Your plants seem to be going through the same things that mine currently are experiencing. I planted all three of my plants into Fox Farms Ocean Forest Mix and started to notice problems after the nutes had been used up. Now i am struggling with the proper feeding amount and schedule to nuture them back to health. I have flushed all three plants with 3 gallons of distilled water 6.0ph with a less than adequate result. I resumed feeding of 1/4 strength nutes used for coco and soil applications yet, two out of the three are struggling still. Im curious as to how your plants will turn out after the repotting? I think i may just do that myself if it goes well for you. I'd hate to have to repot my plants each time they run out of nutes or experience any problems. I will be checking in on your progess. Good luck my friend!
 

Foolieo

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Short little update. i took it out of the pot it was in and put it into a 5 gallon homer bucket. the light fixture keeps falling onto it so its got some burn spots :-/. I also put it in new soil that i believe has 0 nutes so question is when do i start feeding her and what nutes do i feed her. i also mixed ab out 1/3 perlite into the new soil. top 1/2 or so is just soil

How she looking? comments are very welcome!!:leaf:
 

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wyteboi

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yes she looks ALOT better! next time you use that soil add about 35 or 40% perlite , that soil looks kinda hard. you can begin nutes right away.......... i would order fox farm.......well there is a ton of good ones, i use earthjuice. If you have no money then tell me what it says on the box of shultz and i will convert it so u can use that.
 

Foolieo

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well i dont have the box anymore but its called. Schultz Concentrated Plant food plus 10-15-10. and i plant to flower right away. i think i need a differant nute feed for flowering? i might be able to find some bloom at rockys but it will be in a power form. im hopen to be able to use what ever i buy if i have to buy something also in my bubbleponic grow
 

wyteboi

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You can use that food for now........... the nitrogen is pretty high for flowering but it will work for a week or 2......, What i read about the shultz is 7 drops per quart, i would do 10 or 12 drops per gallon..... that is nice and weak. A bag of bone meal is cheap and easy to find and works great for flower. Thats all i used before switching to liquid nutes.
 
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