Help Needed Plant Syntoms Somethings Not Looking Right

NoGutsGrower said:

you said every morning or noon time



I said there is only good light here until 7ish (sun was gone at 8 last night). So if you are sticking them out in the morning sometimes and noon other times they are not getting a 12/12. the are getting more like a 12/12 then a 7/12 and repeat at best.

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i also have an indoor set up its just not that decent of lighting for flowering so i use the sun as my hps

max316420 said:

also magnesium is a macro-nutrient so during flowering especially early flowering they use alot of it

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if so i might just up the micros more it says 2ml per liter but it dosnt have much of an npk so shouldnt nute burn anything im guessing?

max316420 said:

Don't know if i'd feed yet tho, I'm gonna leave that up to you cause I really cant tell what the problem is

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well i may try on the smaller one first it has it the worst but if no go on that girl then ill try something else and how bout those hairs on the ladys do they turn brown from the light being to strong or hot even with plenty air flow?

I just took this picture it is 5:53 am looking at my side yard to the east. You can hardly count putting them out at 6 as getting good daylight! And are you ever off?

I've been using fox farm big bloom as my only flower nute. I follow the heavy feeding directions after week 2 flower and it say to use 1/2 cup for every gallon or 120 ml for every for every 3.8 liters.

NoGutsGrower said:

I just took this picture it is 5:53 am looking at my side yard to the east. You can hardly count putting them out at 6 as getting good daylight! And are you ever off?
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haha nice man it looks just the same out here the sun shines right in my room so i get good light everymorning and ya that sunlight is better i might just do 7am to 7pm but around 630 7 is when the sun cuts off from the corner of my house so i lose out sun at those times but ima figure exactly when so i can beat it to the punch haha nooo way man i have insomnia up the cheeks i cant sleep for shit at night i can stay up and sleep better in the day! lol im weird as fuwk but dont mind mind(even tho my sleep timer is off ) it all works out because now i get to wake up the ladys and see how things are going while im at that ima try again with some clones! i only succeeded less than half last time but i didnt have a heating pad the time

NoGutsGrower said:

I Can't see any signs That point to a specific problem (plants start to lighten up or yellow during flowering because they stop taking in as much N. you can pump them full of more to stop it but it is perfectly normal for it to lighten up and fan leaves to yellow and die off)

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Still not saying you are having problems just curious about the light schedule. I don't know much about the effects of a varied light schedule and it sounded like you were giving them weird hours at first!

seems like alot, just be careful cause I tested bigbloom with my ppm meter at 2 tablespoons per gallon and the ppm were pretty high.

NoGutsGrower said:

I've been using fox farm big bloom as my only flower nute. I follow the heavy feeding directions after week 2 flower and it say to use 1/2 cup for every gallon or 120 ml for every for every 3.8 liters.

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oh shiit man your in the cups? im in the ml lol how big are your pots?

blaze530 said:

nooo way man i have insomnia up the cheeks i cant sleep for shit at night i can stay up and sleep better in the day! lol im weird as fuwk but dont mind mind(even tho my sleep timer is off )

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Im exactly the same! I wake up when the girl gets home from work the hang out all night then got to bed around 8 or 10 after sending her off to work. I use the sun to help me veg. my veg plants get 12/12 (12 sun 12 t5) the sun gets the whole thing while the t5s make it reach for the light and don't drain the crap out of my already packed system.

max316420 said:

seems like alot, just be careful cause I tested bigbloom with my ppm meter at 2 tablespoons per gallon and the ppm were pretty high.

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for me to get into the tablespoon gang what does that require? bigger pots or plants with an appetite? i really would like to kno because feeding that much gots me thinking big girls!!

Rockwool to 16 oz dixie cups to 5 gall buckets and flower normally but flower a mother in 20 gal bucket every now and then. only small veg plants go out side, moms and if I let them get to teens they stay inside.

just following directions! my buddy does even more!

NoGutsGrower said:

Im exactly the same! I wake up when the girl gets home from work the hang out all night then got to bed around 8 or 10 after sending her off to work. I use the sun to help me veg. my veg plants get 12/12 (12 sun 12 t5) the sun gets the whole thing while the t5s make it reach for the light and don't drain the crap out of my already packed system.

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haha yea man iv always been on all nighters even as a kid waking up with only few hours of sleep and on my way to school looking like a zombie lol but idk what it is i sleep comfortable during the day no wake ups at all and at night im tossing and turning and also i cant sleep when its quiet i sit there pondering all night haha even my old lady would get mad as shit at me because i wus going to sleep when she was waking up LOL i told her i cant help it! its like im fighting an impossible battle here every night. ohh do you? so you give them a 24/0 light cycle hows that damn cause the 7am-8pm dose wonders for the ladys i havent gottn anything as big! also 12 t5s! your ladys have it first class there bud haha are those what you flower with too t5s?

NoGutsGrower said:

Rockwool to 16 oz dixie cups to 5 gall buckets and flower normally but flower a mother in 20 gal bucket every now and then. only small veg plants go out side, moms and if I let them get to teens they stay inside.

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whooa 20 gal wow how do you manage to water that sucker must be a pain in the back!

NoGutsGrower said:

just following directions! my buddy does even more!View attachment 1586770

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thats insane! does that bottle last quite a while?

blaze530 said:

haha yea man iv always been on all nighters even as a kid waking up with only few hours of sleep and on my way to school looking like a zombie lol but idk what it is i sleep comfortable during the day no wake ups at all and at night im tossing and turning and also i cant sleep when its quiet i sit there pondering all night haha even my old lady would get mad as shit at me because i wus going to sleep when she was waking up LOL i told her i cant help it! its like im fighting an impossible battle here every night. ohh do you? so you give them a 24/0 light cycle hows that damn cause the 7am-8pm dose wonders for the ladys i havent gottn anything as big! also 12 t5s! your ladys have it first class there bud haha are those what you flower with too t5s?

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DUDE i'm the same EXACT way lol

OH no! I have a whole 12x12 with about 5600watts (4khps 1.6kmh) and use the closet for veg mothers and the top shelf for clones, a 4x4 jardin tent and another closet with 1k hps set ups at 12/12 to test things (plant sex, new strains, new equipment) to see if they are good enough to see the real room. the tent is new and I got another light set up for the tent as well because I wanted to move the veg room to the tent and the other 12/12 closet into the main room. The veg room didn't really fit in the tent so I use the tent like another flower room and test closet at the same time.

blaze530 said:

whooa 20 gal wow how do you manage to water that sucker must be a pain in the back!



thats insane! does that bottle last quite a while?

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I water with a water pump and hose.and kink it or pull it above the water line in the res. between uses. I surprised I haven't killed a pump yet. the watering is still getting old! I am think of switching to hydro but I already don't like having a huge res. of water in the house, the idea of all the leaks that could happen it scares me (my excuse for being lazy and cheap and not just switching already)! and the bottles last depending on how big the bottle you get is. the small ones don't last long at all

max316420 said:

DUDE i'm the same EXACT way lol

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LOL looks like the 3 of use are in the same boat sailing these insomnia waves

NoGutsGrower said:

OH no! I have a whole 12x12 with about 5600watts (4khps 1.6kmh) and use the closet for veg mothers and the top shelf for clones, a 4x4 jardin tent and another closet with 1k hps set ups at 12/12 to test things (plant sex, new strains, new equipment) to see if they are good enough to see the real room. the tent is new and I got another light set up for the tent as well because I wanted to move the veg room to the tent and the other 12/12 closet into the main room. The veg room didn't really fit in the tent so I use the tent like another flower room and test closet at the same time.

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5600w SWEET!! no wonder you put the little ones outside lol i like how your set up sounds how you have veg room,clone shelf,test room,main flower room, and outside! you have multi grow ops now thats how i wish to be nice man so far i only have my open closet and outdoors but this is my second harvest which will be my largest cant wait

NoGutsGrower said:

I water with a water pump and hose.and kink it or pull it above the water line in the res. between uses. I surprised I haven't killed a pump yet. the watering is still getting old! I am think of switching to hydro but I already don't like having a huge res. of water in the house, the idea of all the leaks that could happen it scares me (my excuse for being lazy and cheap and not just switching already)! and the bottles last depending on how big the bottle you get is. the small ones don't last long at all

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i wouldnt doubt it man thats a big bucket! it would suck to have to do per gallon like me :/ my biggest pot drinks a couple of those im glad im not flowering her yet she would eat up my nutes along with her sisters! i wanted to do a hydro or aero aslo but didnt for that same reason! my closet aint fit for water around with all the plugins i have around and ima need more lighting but i enjoy soil all day everyday now im thinking of switching FFOF to some organics soilless and see how that grows out iv read that it doesent have any bugs that attack your crop in soil and that be good indoor medium for me have you tryed any of that by any chance?

heres a few shots of the ladys this morning


IMAG0041 by BLAZE530, on Flickr


IMAG0042 by BLAZE530, on Flickr
its starting to look like its def is getting a little more yellowish to it and some more leaves aslo

and some pics of the other lady dont you think she should have alot more hairs? it looks kinda few compared to the small one

IMAG0044 by BLAZE530, on Flickr


IMAG0045 by BLAZE530, on Flickr


IMAG0046 by BLAZE530, on Flickr