just flipped my plants over to 12x12 today and premixed my bloom nutes at 1/2 strenth ppm is around 980 a few are completely wilted within a few hours?!! im currently using sensi bloom a and b...also mixed in (at half strenth) rhino skin bud factor x sensizyme voodoo juice bud candy and bud ignitor...did i kill them? iv never seen a plant react so fast it was like i dumped a gallon of bleach into them...ph 5.6 ppm 980 water temp 65 please help
Help!!!! Plants dying instantly?
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Dank Hands
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possibly burning them? (pics?)
uhavealighter?
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flush em quick...and go back to the regiment you did before. then find out whats going on. get a pic.
Too Little info to diagnose. Have you altered the EC from the veg phase?A drastic difference may contribute. Are your ratios correct for nutes? Im pretty sure your using Advanced Nutes and that means Metric system. At full strength you would be using 3.8 Tsp per gallon. I currently use Bud Candy and Overdrive combined with Fox Farm nutes. For any new nutes I start off at 1/4 strength and gradually increase to 3/4 strength. Are you calibrating the Ph after you add nutes? It's a rookie mistake that I've made! If you have pics post them and I'll see If I can help!!
cannabutt
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You shouldn't be fucking around with bloom nutes until at least 2 weeks of 12/12.
ease of the feeding, they should be fine
dbkick
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To everyone saying nute burn......fail! 980 ppm does not kill "instantly". actually I find it hard to believe that 980 ppm would burn a plant at any stage, I run straight up 1000 ppm in veg from day one, in flower I start them at about 1200 ppm (hydro) without a bit of burn. I've been told its because of nutrients that are hotter than others, this part I don't understand, 1000 ppm of anything is just that, 1000 ppm. as for ratios to whats in them all nutrient manufacturers are surely fairly close on what goes in their product.
dbkick
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Odd, I start out at day one in flower with bloom nutrients.You shouldn't be fucking around with bloom nutes until at least 2 weeks of 12/12.
ease of the feeding, they should be fine
holdenlots
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he is saying this because some bloom nutes are low in N which a plant use's alot of in the first weeks of 12/12 (the stretch) so some growers like to stick with there veg nutes for the first weeks that or a combination of both
dbkick
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I can understand in addition too bloom nutrients but I don't understand the reasoning behind not using bloom at all.
HighLowGrow
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Same here but 1/4 strength. I'm a soil dude. Something is definately going on. I would suggest a good flush immediately and go back to what was working prior to this problem and see what happens.
Just what I would do.....
dbkick
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The only time I saw a rapid wilting was when the water I changed res with was too cold, it was colder than the 65 f OP stated, I know nothing about soil/water temperatures and how they affect the plant. I can say after a bit the plants that wilted perked right up after looking nearly dead.
maybe thats it! i just flushed before this whole thing and the water was around 59f from its usual 66
laserbrn
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What? This sounds off to me. Not saying this guy burned his plants, but what do you mean you stat your plants with straight 1000ppm? That would certainly burn plants that are say 2-3 weeks into veg. There's no way you're getting away with that. I've used Sensi 2 part and if you put 1000ppm into the reservoir with little twerps, you'll burn the shit out of them.
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seems to be doing a little better since i got back from running some errands and making my original post...but im willing to bet it was water temp being to low
all meters recalibrated after ever res change...ppm and ph. yes im using metric system the bloom nutes call for 4ml per liter...i am running 135 liters in my ucdwc..i used 2ml per liter....as for the additives i also ran them at half...they call for 2 ml per liter..i used 1 ml per liter
uhavealighter?
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can you look at the roots?
dbkick
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really? odd, I run bluelab guardians too so my meters are reading true. actually I've run newly rooted clones at 1200 ppm ( am at this moment), but I'm not using sensi or AN . So you can explain how these hot nutrients can burn when I run very high ppm, you can explain why one nutrient at the same ppm is gonna be hotter than the other?
I do have some sensi grow and won't hesitate to put these newly rooted clones in 1000 ppm solution using it.
dbkick
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this was my choice all along, when winter hits you need to preheat water, ground water gets crazy cold (although 65 isn't bad, in hydro anyway). err, quoted the wrong post :/.....or maybe not that quote was right, pardon, I'm ripped in more ways than one
DSCN0021 by mrnastytime, on Flickr
seems to be doing a little better since i got back from running some errands and making my original post...but im willing to bet it was water temp being to low
