Help! The Leaves Started Turning Like This Randomly

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GeminiSmokes

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Can someone please help me out? I just started getting these deficient leaves on my plant. I feed it nutrients from general hydroponics. At first I wasn’t feeding it florabloom because someone told me the plant doesn’t need it in veg but the leaves started turning so I asked around and found out it I need to feed all the nutrients to the plant in veg and flower. How can I fix this? I’m trying to flower it as soon as possible. What would happen if I put it in flower now? Would I still get nice buds? Also I’m using a blurple light and a white leg together. Please help. Thank you!
 

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Billy the Mountain

Billy the Mountain

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GeminiSmokes said:
Can someone please help me out? I just started getting these deficient leaves on my plant. I feed it nutrients from general hydroponics. At first I wasn’t feeding it florabloom because someone told me the plant doesn’t need it in veg but the leaves started turning so I asked around and found out it I need to feed all the nutrients to the plant in veg and flower. How can I fix this? I’m trying to flower it as soon as possible. What would happen if I put it in flower now? Would I still get nice buds? Also I’m using a blurple light and a white leg together. Please help. Thank you!
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You followed poor advice.
The Flora series is a 3-part nutrient. Omitting the FloraBloom means almost no Phosphorous or Magnesium and zero Sulfur.
All three are necessary for a healthy plant as demonstrated in the pics.

Flowering a sickly plant is and exercise in futility.
 
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GeminiSmokes

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Billy the Mountain said:
You followed poor advice.
The Flora series is a 3-part nutrient. Omitting the FloraBloom means almost no Phosphorous or Magnesium and zero Sulfur.
All three are necessary for a healthy plant as demonstrated in the pics.

Flowering a sickly plant is and exercise in futility.
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Well this has been in veg for 4 and a half months and I don’t want to wait longer because the roots will keep growing rapidly and I might have to transplant it to another bin but it’s in a really big bin right now and I can’t transplant it again. How can I fix this problem as soon as possible? How many times a week should I feed it nutrients?
 
Billy the Mountain

Billy the Mountain

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GeminiSmokes said:
Well this has been in veg for 4 and a half months and I don’t want to wait longer because the roots will keep growing rapidly and I might have to transplant it to another bin but it’s in a really big bin right now and I can’t transplant it again. How can I fix this problem as soon as possible? How many times a week should I feed it nutrients?
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Your plant, your rules.

It's clear that plant has been both light and nutrient deprived for quite some time, not a random occurrence.
There is no rapid growth, roots or otherwise, in that plant.
Go ahead and flower it for the experience, but temper your expectations.
You'll need better lighting and proper nutes to achieve a meaningful harvest.
 
OldMedUser

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GeminiSmokes said:
Well this has been in veg for 4 and a half months and I don’t want to wait longer because the roots will keep growing rapidly and I might have to transplant it to another bin but it’s in a really big bin right now and I can’t transplant it again. How can I fix this problem as soon as possible? How many times a week should I feed it nutrients?
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Get some fresh soil ready then take the plant out of the pot when the soil is fairly dry and saw the bottom few inches off the rootball with a bread knife and put it back in the same pot with fresh mix so it ends up level with the top of the pot. It will sink down an inch or so after watering. If there are long roots wound around the sides shave that down with the knife to get rid of them. Then water the whole thing with a proper mix of nutes and she should be good to flower a week later.

I cut long roots off at every transplant so they branch out and fill the pot top to bottom with fine feeder roots. They can grow as fast as hydro like that and I've done a lot of DWC grows.

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Seeing as how you want to flower soon I'd mix up your nutes with extra bloom or a dose of bloom booster so she gets a good start for budding up. P and K are both used by the plant for root growth so some extra is called for as they are deficient now.

Good luck!

:peace:
 
OldMedUser

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I just checked out the last pic of that plant and I'd top it to shorten it up so side branches emerge at the nodes and grow out a bit. Then your lights would do a better job of flowering it and getting a bit of smoke. Gonna take more than a week to whip it back into a half-assed condition to give you a few decent buds.

Don't expect miracles tho.

:peace:
 
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Billy the Mountain said:
Your plant, your rules.

It's clear that plant has been both light and nutrient deprived for quite some time, not a random occurrence.
There is no rapid growth, roots or otherwise, in that plant.
Go ahead and flower it for the experience, but temper your expectations.
You'll need better lighting and proper nutes to achieve a meaningful harvest.
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I’m using 2 different types of lights on the plant. A blurple light and a white led light so I don’t think lighting is the issue
 
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OldMedUser said:
I just checked out the last pic of that plant and I'd top it to shorten it up so side branches emerge at the nodes and grow out a bit. Then your lights would do a better job of flowering it and getting a bit of smoke. Gonna take more than a week to whip it back into a half-assed condition to give you a few decent buds.

Don't expect miracles tho.

:peace:
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Ok I’ll try that thank you!
 
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OldMedUser said:
I just checked out the last pic of that plant and I'd top it to shorten it up so side branches emerge at the nodes and grow out a bit. Then your lights would do a better job of flowering it and getting a bit of smoke. Gonna take more than a week to whip it back into a half-assed condition to give you a few decent buds.

Don't expect miracles tho.

:peace:
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And how often should I feed it?
 
OldMedUser

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GeminiSmokes said:
And how often should I feed it?
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Depends on how it's growing and many factors. It looks like you have been feeding it quite a bit but not of all the right stuff. You could flush it out a bit after doing a root prune then feed about half the recommended maximum of all 3 bottles to hopefully get it showing healthy new growth. Or do the root prune without a flush and feed a mix like 1ml/L of the Grow and Micro but 3ml/L of the Bloom. I used the old AN 3-part for over 10 years and it was the same mix ratios as the Flora 3-part so that's what I would feed them but then skip a feeding for a couple of water cycles before feeding again. You don't have a lot of foliage to use up nutes until lots of new growth starts demanding more. Feeding every time you water will for sure over-nute it and you'll start burning the plant. You should be letting the pot get quite light before watering after the initial soak after transplanting then soak it good when you do water it. Unless you're in coco then ask a coco person. :)

:peace:
 
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OldMedUser said:
Depends on how it's growing and many factors. It looks like you have been feeding it quite a bit but not of all the right stuff. You could flush it out a bit after doing a root prune then feed about half the recommended maximum of all 3 bottles to hopefully get it showing healthy new growth. Or do the root prune without a flush and feed a mix like 1ml/L of the Grow and Micro but 3ml/L of the Bloom. I used the old AN 3-part for over 10 years and it was the same mix ratios as the Flora 3-part so that's what I would feed them but then skip a feeding for a couple of water cycles before feeding again. You don't have a lot of foliage to use up nutes until lots of new growth starts demanding more. Feeding every time you water will for sure over-nute it and you'll start burning the plant. You should be letting the pot get quite light before watering after the initial soak after transplanting then soak it good when you do water it. Unless you're in coco then ask a coco person. :)

:peace:
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I might not be able to do a root prune because the pot it’s in is pretty big and too heavy for me to take the plant out. But I’ll flush it before feeding it again. I’m growing it in soil.
 
Billy the Mountain

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GeminiSmokes said:
I’m using 2 different types of lights on the plant. A blurple light and a white led light so I don’t think lighting is the issue
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Are you being facetious? Look at the size and structure of your plant.

Your lighting is woefully inadequate to grow a healthy plant to harvest.
4.5 months of growth should result in a small tree given adequate lighting and nutrition.
 
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Billy the Mountain said:
Are you being facetious? Look at the size and structure of your plant.

Your lighting is woefully inadequate to grow a healthy plant to harvest.
4.5 months of growth should result in a small tree given adequate lighting and nutrition.
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I’m growing indoors so it shouldn’t be huge. I’m using a blurple light big enough for two plants and a white led on top of that.
 
Fangthane

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Tone aside, people here generally want to help. He's right, though. At 4.5 months vegging under even half-decent care, that plant should be a monster. Your feeding issues very likely aren't the only problem in your grow.

What's the make and model of your grow lights? When I first started out, I damn near bought some lights that would have been WOEFULLY inadequate out of sheer lack of knowledge. Shady wording in manufacturer descriptions often don't help.
 
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Fangthane said:
Tone aside, people here generally want to help. He's right, though. At 4.5 months vegging under even half-decent care, that plant should be a monster. Your feeding issues very likely aren't the only problem in your grow.

What's the make and model of your grow lights? When I first started out, I damn near bought some lights that would have been WOEFULLY inadequate out of sheer lack of knowledge. Shady wording in manufacturer descriptions often don't help.
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You don’t think it also has to do with grow space? I have a very small grow space in a closet. I’m using a household white led bulb from ecosmart and I’m not sure what brand my blurple light is but it’s not too expensive. Should I move the light closer maybe? That’s the only light I can use for right now.
 
Fangthane

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Could you take some pics of your lights? If the white bulb is what I think it is, it's actually more like maybe 15 watts. If you're in a very confined space without good air flow and ventilation, that can definitely affect your grow in a big way.
 
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GeminiSmokes said:
Can someone please help me out? I just started getting these deficient leaves on my plant. I feed it nutrients from general hydroponics. At first I wasn’t feeding it florabloom because someone told me the plant doesn’t need it in veg but the leaves started turning so I asked around and found out it I need to feed all the nutrients to the plant in veg and flower. How can I fix this? I’m trying to flower it as soon as possible. What would happen if I put it in flower now? Would I still get nice buds? Also I’m using a blurple light and a white leg together. Please help. Thank you!
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I dont really like telling people this as no one likes giving anyone potential bad news. But see all those indents and how the edges are flaying and rolling up like that and your getting all sorts of signs of multiple problems, well its a good sign you need to check for russet mite broad mite. Its not a issue I wishon any grower but at least with the info you can try ando some research, checks and prepare solutions. Good luck, hopefully its something else, but defi something you need to check.
 
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Fangthane said:
Could you take some pics of your lights? If the white bulb is what I think it is, it's actually more like maybe 15 watts. If you're in a very confined space without good air flow and ventilation, that can definitely affect your grow in a big way.
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smh I just found out the white bulb is 12W.
 
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