HELP!! Whats wrong with my girls?? Got pics!!

Wooded

Wooded

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Ok, so im on day25 12/12 now of my indoor soil grow & i think im killing off 2 of my plants. This is my 1st grow & im growing from clones (jackie white & blue cheese). Allthough everything seems ok with with my Jackies (they're a bit small for my liking), 2 of my BlueCheese seem to be dying a slow death. The leaves have started to yellow & the lower leaves have started to slightly burn at the tips aswell.
The 2 poorly plants are only in 3L pots, where as my 3rd BlueCheese is in a 10L bucket & shes amazing, by far my best plant. All 3 plants are being fed with the same strength nutes (ionics soil bloom & boost) so the only thing i can put it down to is the size of the pots.
Does anyone have any ideas going off the pics??
The 1st 3 pics are of the poorly ones & the last 2 are of the healthy 1 in the bucket.
 

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Pipe Dream

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yeah there's more nutrients in the bigger pot the nutes in the soil have been totally used up so they need some extra nitrogen. Usually later in flowering they will start to yellow which is normal but you still got a few weeks to go before flushing so give them some grow fertilizer or something.
 
Shrubs First

Shrubs First

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Looks like a macro deficiency, what are the percentages
of your feeds and how much are you applying? Looks mostly
like nitrogen deficiency, but at this point it could be phosphorous
as well. More info would be appreciated
 
Wooded

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Shrubs First said:
Looks like a macro deficiency, what are the percentages
of your feeds and how much are you applying? Looks mostly
like nitrogen deficiency, but at this point it could be phosphorous
as well. More info would be appreciated
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Sorry for the lack of info, didnt want to chat too much shit straight away incase it was just something simple.
Im feeding them around a litre every other day, just using Ionics bloom & Ionics boost, sticking to the guidelines (7ml per ltr Bloom & 1ml per ltr Boost) & im bringing my ph upto 6.5.. EC comes to 1.3..... the numbers on the Bloom bottle= 1.4:1.4:1.6 Boost bottle= 0:8.5:6.2
Does any of this correspond to the "N"???
Couple of pics of the labels on the bottles.... 1st is Bloom 2nd is Boost!!

My mate has a bottle of Ionics Grow, should i use this along with or instead of Bloom & Boost??
 

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Shrubs First

Shrubs First

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The first number in the ratios corresponds to the N Which is very little
at 1.4%, that would be my first assumption. Do you have the grow formula
for this Ionic line? I would add that in your feedings at maybe 1/2 a dose.
Your plants could probably take an EC of 1.5 to 1.6 if you were to add the
grow formula.
 
gameover

gameover

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Im thinking those roots are prob. Shooting out of those little pots huh,? They need room to grow- buy some bigger pots- and i bet they'll thank you... Lookn good, keep up the good work!!!
 
Wooded

Wooded

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If i start to use the Ionics Grow that my mate has, will i still need to use PK13-14 later on in flowering??
Will the sudden increase in EC shock the plants or should i use half dose on all 3 formulas or just the Grow??
Also, is it not too late into flower to re-pot them now, no roots are visible at the bottom of the pots yet....
If i do end up re-potting, will i still need to add Grow formula or "N"??

Heads f##ked
 
DoeEyed

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Your plants are starving for nitrogen. Contrary to popular advice, they need it all the way through flowering, it is NOT normal for all your leaves to yellow and die in flower. I usually give mine their veg nutes all the way through, at quarter or half strength in flower, depending on how nute sensitive your girl is. All the leaves that are very yellow are going to die now anyway. But if you get her nitrogen pretty quick, you can keep the rest from going.
 
Wooded

Wooded

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Thanx for the advice guys, ive got hold of some Bio-Grow nutes, with a high "N" (it states npk 8:2:6)
Will this be ok to use along side my Ionics schedule im on now??
 
Wooded

Wooded

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I'll go for half strength & see what the EC comes out at, if its too high i'll have to go half strength on the bloom nutes too.
What d'ya reckon about the other plants?? Should the 1s in the buckets be left how they are for now??
 
jawbrodt

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Yep, they are lacking nitrogen. The one in the 5 gallon bucket looks alot better because the larger amount of soil provides nutes longer than those 3 liter pots. Like Mrs. DoeEyed said, :wink: it's a good idea to use some veg nute throughout bloom, at least until week 5 or so(for 8-10 week strains), and that'll keep 'em green for ya. :cool:
 
Wooded

Wooded

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jawbrodt said:
Yep, they are lacking nitrogen. The one in the 5 gallon bucket looks alot better because the larger amount of soil provides nutes longer than those 3 liter pots. Like Mrs. DoeEyed said, :wink: it's a good idea to use some veg nute throughout bloom, at least until week 5 or so(for 8-10 week strains), and that'll keep 'em green for ya. :cool:
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Only until week 5??? Do i take the veg nute back out then??
Will i need to add veg nutes to the buckets too, even though they look healthy at the mo, or would it be an idea just to throw the poorly plants into buckets instead? I thought it was too late into flower to re-pot.
Thanx for all the advice fellow tokers!!
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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^I meant the 5th week of bloom, not the 5th week from the beginning. :) Also, you can transplant while in bloom, but it's not something you should do unless you have to, which in this case, would be a good idea. It'll help them alot.
 
Wooded

Wooded

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Thanx jawbrodt, do you or anyone else know the negative effects of transplanting at this stage of flower, (day26 now)......
& would i still have to add "veg/grow" nutes if i transplant them to buckets??
Paranoia's kicked in & i dont wana go from 1 extreme to the other by overfeeding & killin em with the fresh soil coz the bag says its got nutes built in (EC=2.4)
 
Wooded

Wooded

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Now then, I decided to transplant the 2 poorly girls into buckets today!!
My bad, i should have done it when i did the others but i ran out of soil & buckets & money coz im on a tight budget now through losing my job & soil was the last cash outlay on my mind. But on a positive, lots more time to spend with my babies!!
I took a couple of pics of the roots to put on & if anyones interested i can post a pic or 2 in a few days if they show signs of recovery.
Im just confused about the feeding schedule now, I dont think im going to bother adding grow nutes now they've been put in fresh soil.
 

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Wooded

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Its been a couple of days now since the transplant & the poorly plants dont seem to be getting better, worse if anything!!!

I fed them along with every other plant in my tent the day after the transplant at the same strength they were getting in the old pots (ec=1.3 ph=6.5).

Does anyone know how long it could take to see signs of recovery, or even if i will??? :wall:
 
Mr. Blue

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Splash your next feeding with some nitrozime.. I use Ionic nutes as well and had to do this once at around the same time as where your at.
Like they all said.. Nitrogen.
 
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