Hey fellas, anyone know what this is nute lock out/burn/deficiency? (pics)

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bsmooth24

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Thanks for stopping by. My PH from runoff showed 5 something, should have checked it sooner. Been using 0-5-4 florabloom nutes and 15-30-15 before that, thought I haven't used any N in about a week in a half to two weeks now. I started to get that grassy smell and really dark leaves so figured I was too late into flower to be using N feeding. I'm say 6 weeks into flower now and my plant has start to go a little haywire. I figure nute lock out...some kind of burn....cal/mag/N deficiency? You tell me, thank a lot. Btw, when i first saw the rusty spots about 5 days ago I did a flush. 0404131728.jpg0404131729.jpg
 
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bsmooth24 said:
Thanks for stopping by. My PH from runoff showed 5 something, should have checked it sooner. Been using 0-5-4 florabloom nutes and 15-30-15 before that, thought I haven't used any N in about a week in a half to two weeks now. I started to get that grassy smell and really dark leaves so figured I was too late into flower to be using N feeding. I'm say 6 weeks into flower now and my plant has start to go a little haywire. I figure nute lock out...some kind of burn....cal/mag/N deficiency? You tell me, thank a lot. Btw, when i first saw the rusty spots about 5 days ago I did a flush. View attachment 2601013View attachment 2601014
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Your buds are sucking the sugars out of your leafs, at this point it only has about 2-3 weeks left, looks good to me, kinda normal :lol:
 
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bsmooth24

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I really dont have a lot of trichomes...barely any if any i think. Ill get you guys a sharper picture. So you're saying cal def. is causing grass smell or cal surplus? It doesn't smell like that anymore since I stopped using the N so much. I'm going to go 15-30-15 for my next feeding or do you think I should give it regular water? I basically do feed every time i water...could this be too much? Should i foilar spray with epstom salt or try to fix my PH first with regular water?
 
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I think it is cal mag also--- if only in 12/12 for 60 days- they have a ways to go.... since they do not start blooming day one.. you start counting once they are actively blooming...
brown pistils or yellowing leaves don't always mean they are almost ready- often means they were stressed...

when is the last time you flushed the plants?
Do that ASAP, then at the end add in their nutes with some Cal-Mag/Micro Blast etc...
Very few (if any) nutes can be used as a "stand alone" especially with ZERO Nitrogen.. it is also probably lacking other nutes as well..

what Brand you using?
 
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bsmooth24 said:
Thanks for stopping by. My PH from runoff showed 5 something, should have checked it sooner. Been using 0-5-4 florabloom nutes and 15-30-15 before that, thought I haven't used any N in about a week in a half to two weeks now. I started to get that grassy smell and really dark leaves so figured I was too late into flower to be using N feeding. I'm say 6 weeks into flower now and my plant has start to go a little haywire. I figure nute lock out...some kind of burn....cal/mag/N deficiency? You tell me, thank a lot. Btw, when i first saw the rusty spots about 5 days ago I did a flush. View attachment 2601013View attachment 2601014
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Honestly man, I just got the post from other thred, but I been drinking all afternoon, and kad a couple puffs just recently........
Anyhow, with my F/U eyes, just going by what you wrote-
Dark leaves would tell me too much N, you say you are feeding, with the numbers you give, I would give a drunk guess of lockout due to the low PH, but I also don't like the 15 N you are giving occasionally.
Have/ do you check your PH of the water going IN?
 
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bsmooth24

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yeah it's phed to to estimated 6.5 according to my PH kit. The water I use is 7 out of the tap and drops to that with the nute. Should i just use water tomorrow and ph it to 8 to try and even out the low ph...is that how it works?
 
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bsmooth24

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today was the FIRST day the yellow leaves showed up this morning....yesterday was the first day that the dead parts were there. It's been about a week of those rust stains and about a week in a half of the tips of the leaves curling down. I heard that meant nute burn or lock out so I flushed like 4 days ago with phed water
 
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bsmooth24

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from what i understand transplant is the MOST stressful thing you can possible to do a plant. Seems that first thing is feed with just water and/or 1/4 nutes and make sure the runoff ph gets better....if not flush and pray. I can't get rid of the lock out by flushing or just feeding with ph water or maybe 8.0 ph water to raise the runoff ph?
 
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bsmooth24

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well that dead leaf part has spread to another two leaves...should i flush or only use water for maybe two feedings?
 
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PurpleBuz

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bsmooth24 said:
yeah my PH is SO fucked ....it's like between 4 and 5...i just did a mini flush and nothing changed
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Is that your soil pH or runoff ? Dig out a small soil sample a few inches down with a spoon and do a pH test on that.

Assuming your soil pH is too low, instead of flushing with pHd water try using Cal Mag Plus at half strength.
Verify effect with soil ph Tests, repeat as needed.

After that add normal dosages of CalMag to your nute solutions to keep things balanced.

its too late to add lime to your soil since the Ca and Mgis too low and slow. Dolomite should be added to new potting mix so it has time to work and the microbes can play with it.
 
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Bakatare666

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bsmooth24 said:
yeah my PH is SO fucked ....it's like between 4 and 5...i just did a mini flush and nothing changed. Should i buy lime? The only thing i've found so far is the pellets ..here's link

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/100581208?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=dolomite+lime&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=100581208#specifications

how much time do you think i have left on this girl? I hope all this stress wont hermie it out after buying all this stuff and taking so much time. here's a pic:

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From the looks of it, you still got at least a couple weeks.
 
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bsmooth24

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that's more than enough time to fuck my plant up and turn hermie if this doesnt get solved right? By couple you mean another month u think?
 
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