Hey guys, can someone answer a question real quick?>

GSTATUS

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My buddy has a couple plants late in flowering. He noticed a couple banannas popping out last night. The plant with the bannanas has atleast 1 week left and the other's have about two weeks to go. Are his buds already pollinated? He just noticed them last night. It's the biggest plant so we would hate to cut early as everyone knows alot of the weight packs in in the final weeks. On the other hand it would be horrible to have seeded bud. Could they wait a week? Are they going to have seeds? Already seeded?

Thanks alot
 

GSTATUS

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Sorry but how does he know if they opened? They are only about the legnth of a pencil tip sticking out. Plucking would do no good? Man this sucks
 

skunkushybrid01

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don't worry about it. it's either too late now or too early to cause much harm. pull off the nanners and let them finish.
 

GSTATUS

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Awesome! So the bananas won't be ready to pollinate for another couple weeks? So he's looking at some non seeded bud if he chop's in a week? Thanks alot guys, fast response times!
 

timeismoney1

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Well if you let the male grow till you almost chop the female i would thing it would have been pollinated since males sex quicker to get the females.

Or your buddy is chopping down the female to early
 

GSTATUS

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Does anyone know?

If he waits out this last week will it be sensimilla bud? Like i said he found the bananas last night, there is about 5 or 6 bananas total so far. Even if they opened in a week wouldn't it take some time for seeds to be formed?
 

GSTATUS

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Yeah..

Can someone please answer my question? I don't have alot of time on the computer today. Thanks
 

Brick Top

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Seeds are not manufactured by plants overnight. It can take roughly 10 to 14 days or more, depending on strain, for seeds to form. Your buddy will almost certainly have at the very least tiny soft immature seeds that might not even appear to be seeds if your buddy harvests soon to hard shelled fully mature beans if your buddy waits long enough before harvesting.

Your buddy faces something of a conundrum in that once seeds begin to form energy otherwise used for other important function, THC and other cannabinoid production and terpene production for example, will be transferred to the creation of seeds so as the seeds are being made less energy will go for other far more important and desired functions.

Hormonal changes associated with seeding definitely affect all metabolic processes within plants including cannabinoid biosynthesis. An imbalance is created in the enzymatic systems controlling cannabinoid production. It is also suspected that capitate-stalked trichome production might cease when the calyx is fertilized.

Long story short --- your buddy's plants will eventually reach a point of diminishing returns, THC-wise, if he allows his plants to grow long enough. With THC/terpene production restricted if the plants are left to grow until the trichomes cloud and then begin to turn amber each day THC will be lost as it oxidizes and becomes CBN and it will not be replaced so the potency of your buddy's plants would begin to decrease at that point.

Your buddy will have to decide for himself if he would be better off harvesting early or wait and risk seeds and decreased amounts of THC/potency.
 

GSTATUS

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Thanks guys!

One more quick question.

Since he just saw the banannas yesterday and the plants only have a week to go, then wouldn't it take some time atleast a week for the banannas to open and polinate? Even then that will be chop time and hopefully he'll just have pollen on the buds? Maybe im dreaming but hopefully that sounds right? Man this sucks.
 

skunkushybrid01

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Seeds are not manufactured by plants overnight. It can take roughly 10 to 14 days or more, depending on strain, for seeds to form. Your buddy will almost certainly have at the very least tiny soft immature seeds that might not even appear to be seeds if your buddy harvests soon to hard shelled fully mature beans if your buddy waits long enough before harvesting.

Your buddy faces something of a conundrum in that once seeds begin to form energy otherwise used for other important function, THC and other cannabinoid production and terpene production for example, will be transferred to the creation of seeds so as the seeds are being made less energy will go for other far more important and desired functions.

Hormonal changes associated with seeding definitely affect all metabolic processes within plants including cannabinoid biosynthesis. An imbalance is created in the enzymatic systems controlling cannabinoid production. It is also suspected that capitate-stalked trichome production might cease when the calyx is fertilized.

Long story short --- your buddy's plants will eventually reach a point of diminishing returns, THC-wise, if he allows his plants to grow long enough. With THC/terpene production restricted if the plants are left to grow until the trichomes cloud and then begin to turn amber each day THC will be lost as it oxidizes and becomes CBN and it will not be replaced so the potency of your buddy's plants would begin to decrease at that point.

Your buddy will have to decide for himself if he would be better off harvesting early or wait and risk seeds and decreased amounts of THC/potency.
I don't believe potency is decreased in seed production, yield is a different story however. I see breeders plants and they are low yield but full of extra frost. The potency and stickiness of the trichomes helps protect the seeds. I highly doubt potency is affected by seed production, if anything it is enhanced by it imo. It makes little sense to me for a plant to protect pistils with potency, far more likely is that the potency is there to protect the seeds.
 

skunkushybrid01

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Hey skunk do you think that sounds about right? My last post?
well the pollination begins right away. pistils will wither and brown off as the plant starts to direct energy into seed production. from there the yield will be greatly diminished. Potency is still up in the air as far as i'm concerned. until proven otherwise i'll stick with believing what sounds most logical to my own mind.

the seeds probably won't be viable though to plant. it takes around 4 weeks minimum for a plant to produce viable seeds. i think that's what breeders go for. The mid point also ensures a greater number of seeds as there are more calyxes. it depends how bad the nanners are. chances are though if you've just noticed them they are new, and if open they will begin pollination right away. i'm not so sure this late in the grow it makes much difference if you wait till the buds are properly ready. chopping early will make for some poor quality smoke.
 

GSTATUS

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They are brand new skunk. Just discovered yesterday and the guy checks his plants constantly. I just got off the phone with him and he plucked the nanners about 7 of them and there are no signs of them anywhere else on the plant. Does the polination begin right away if the nanners are just started to show themselves? He plucked the nanners and is going to chop the 31st. For some reason i think he's in the clear but you guys know best. Once again thanks for responding so quickly.
 

GSTATUS

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Bump


What do you guy's think? Bananas just noticed yesterday. They were removed today. Plant has 6 more day's to go.
 
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