Hidden Phenotypes: Pink Lady, Grape Ape, Pink Lemonade... and more

igothydrotoneverywhere

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Hi all,
I am familiar with the notion of hidden phenotypes within seeds from certain crosses. Alot of which information is held sacred and secret. I would like to start this thread to reveal any and all hidden phenotypes out there and any information anyone would like to add. They would need to be from a reputable seedbank of course.

I will start it off with the ones i am familar with.

Pink Lady- hidden within the Plush berry from TGA
Pink Lemonade - hidden within the Jack the ripper from TGA
Grape Ape - hidden withing the King's Kush from greenhouse seeds

Thanks cant wait to share some more as i find them out~
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
I don't think the phenotypes you mention are "hidden" per se, they're just uncommon, and then when one appears someone makes a lot of noise and gives them a new name.

I'm not sure this stuff is "secret" (as in deliberately concealed) so much as murky. . .taste and smell are somewhat subjective, and the underground nature of cannabis cultivation makes this sort of information a bit opaque. Breeders/growers LOVE to have something (or think they have something) that nobody else does, and that drives some of this too, I think.

Of course if a line is properly stabilized (ie inbred) there should be ZERO "hidden" phenotypes, because proper breeding should weed out most/all non homozygous recessive genes and all plants from a given line should be similar, but that's a separate issue.

Back on your question, one of these is the so called "cherry" phenotype of AK-47. Here's a nice excerpt on the topic from Simon of Serious-S.eeds (who bred AK47 and is not exactly a "slouch" breeder):


About AK47 Cherry Phenotype
About the Cherry pheno in Ak-47 I'm not sure what to answer. You could say this is something which started on the net between people who grew Serious' AK-47. Several growers agreed that a certain type of the AK-47, which they grew and smoked, has a very sweet and cherry-like taste. Other growers seem to recognize this taste and smell, and so the 'Cherry AK-47 phenotype' was born.

As you might know it is very difficult to discuss tastes or to name, describe, a smell or taste objectively. Consequently I don't know exactly what they mean when growers talk about this. Some friends once tasted what a grower called cherry taste and said that you have to use a bit of imagination to recognize it. But was what they tried a real 'Cherry' AK-47 or was it just a close sister? So, we don't really know if what 'they' name cherry would be recognized as a cherry-taste by others, or not.

I have seen on numerous occasions that when people were smoking something, that several people named the taste different from the others; spicey, sweet, fruity, sandalwood, vanilla-ish, piney etc. all were used independently from each other. And who was right?

We have tasted many AK-plants, a fruity kind of sweetness is easily recognized in many of them, but we don't know which taste to call cherry. The total number of AK-47 seeds grown by growers worldwide is much bigger then we could ever trie in our test rooms, so the possibility that some find a rare and fantastic individual is very real. We get reports from people who claim to find Cherry-pheno's in every seedpack, while others say 1 out of a 100 plants is a Cherry. This alone shows that nobody knows what the other is talking about.

Nobody has showed us a clone so far of a 'Cherry', so the basic line is that there is no standard on what the charecteristics of the 'Cherry AK-47 phenotype' really is. But for us it is interesting to see that many people do find something which they are very happy with, and call 'cherry'.

So we think it is best to let growers carry on with this, as they certainly might be right. This is a myth of which it is not known by us if true or false. Several experienced knowledgeable growers think it is true, and others agree to this, so who are we to say they are wrong???

May be the only way to find out is to actually grow the AK-47 out yourself to see what YOU think.

Sincerely,
Simon

p.s. We are very much interested in getting clones from people who are certain to have a Cherry AK-47. This should lead to creating a standard on what the 'Cherry' pheno is. Till then we can only give the information given above when asked about the 'Cherry AK-47 phenotype'.
 

Rising Moon

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I've got this Arctic Fallout girl (Chemdawg 91 x Snow Lotus), and it is the most unique herb I have ever smelled or tasted.

Smells like fresh dirt. Tastes of chem, earth, peat moss and ...?

Completely unexpected and I have not heard anything much about this phenotype. I call her Dirt Dawg.

Her sister smells like a Raspberry OG, also very unique and amazing smoke.
 
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