High power COB -vs- hps vertical shoot out

ttystikk

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Get a more even spread and increase penetration deep in those trees. COBS for sure work better with optics.
I'll agree with you on optics for COB LED; I did it more for durability and resistance to wear and tear.

That said, my 80 degree lenses plus the spacing between modules makes for very evenly distributed light across the entire canopy surface. The lenses prevent excess scatter, yet the pattern is still broad enough to allow for great cross lighting of adjacent trellis area.

Overall I feel like I gain more than I lose with the lenses in place. That's nice, because since the modules are vertically oriented they get bumped, rubbed on, sprayed and leaned on constantly.
 

ttystikk

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@legallyflying I just pulled my first crop with COB LED. I made a few first run mistakes including too much EC early and running the growing space too cold. Even so, my yield looks to be on par with best ever and the quality is amazing.

We were able to remove the old crop and replace it with a fresh batch in about an hour.
 

Sativied

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pics, or it didn't happen!!
He posted pics but it still didn't happen :lol: he has gone full delusional. My first 400w hps results nearly a decade ago look 10x better... I'd consider his grow failed. Have to take anything shittystick posts with a bag of salt, an industrial size bag. I wonder sometimes if he isn't just trolling, rarely people are that blatantly full of shit.
 

chuck estevez

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He posted pics but it still didn't happen :lol: he has gone full delusional. My first 400w hps results nearly a decade ago look 10x better... I'd consider his grow failed. Have to take anything shittystick posts with a bag of salt, an industrial size bag. I wonder sometimes if he isn't just trolling, rarely people are that blatantly full of shit.
But what he does have is what ALL LED growers have, EXCUSES as to why it wasn't a great run,lol
 

Sativied

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pics or .....
I don't post pics on request of white (-trash) led fans that have never shown me a decent plant late flower, constantly talk out of their ass, and have zero valid arguments. I have zero to prove and I don't need to exxagarate and brag like shittystick and the other clowns getting excited over cannabis plants that barely survived the cycle.

Not my problem you appearantly are unfamiliar with the great results 400w hps can have.
The original journal is still online. Looks better than what 90% of the pretengineering fanboys here produce. 90% as a matter of speaking, it's way more. I realize you led fans are extremely delusional so it must be hard but yes, my 400watt hps bud turned out better a decade ago than your cobs do for you now. That's not special enough to post pics for, it says nothing about me either, I frequently see first time growers do that.

I don't think it says a whole lot about led either, it just means you led fans generally suck at growing and don't have a clue what good results are. You stopped caring about the result entirely and blindly focus on the light source rather than the recipients turning the led community here into a farce and a facade. It got too stupid around here, pretengineers connecting cobs together selling them as horticulture lighting while boosting their own poor deficient necrotic plants. It's ludicrous. Sucking each other off for pics of crappy looking plants and results. Heck, led growers don't even need to post pics, they just have to boost cobs like a good fanboy and 20 of you fucktards will offer a handjob. Don't you guys have any dignity... grow some self respect first so you can at least be honest to yourselves and look at results objectively.
 

REALSTYLES

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I don't post pics on request of white (-trash) led fans that have never shown me a decent plant late flower, constantly talk out of their ass, and have zero valid arguments. I have zero to prove and I don't need to exxagarate and brag like shittystick and the other clowns getting excited over cannabis plants that barely survived the cycle.

Not my problem you appearantly are unfamiliar with the great results 400w hps can have.
The original journal is still online. Looks better than what 90% of the pretengineering fanboys here produce. 90% as a matter of speaking, it's way more. I realize you led fans are extremely delusional so it must be hard but yes, my 400watt hps bud turned out better a decade ago than your cobs do for you now. That's not special enough to post pics for, it says nothing about me either, I frequently see first time growers do that.

I don't think it says a whole lot about led either, it just means you led fans generally suck at growing and don't have a clue what good results are. You stopped caring about the result entirely and blindly focus on the light source rather than the recipients turning the led community here into a farce and a facade. It got too stupid around here, pretengineers connecting cobs together selling them as horticulture lighting while boosting their own poor deficient necrotic plants. It's ludicrous. Sucking each other off for pics of crappy looking plants and results. Heck, led growers don't even need to post pics, they just have to boost cobs like a good fanboy and 20 of you fucktards will offer a handjob. Don't you guys have any dignity... grow some self respect first so you can at least be honest to yourselves and look at results objectively.
Damn you sound butt hurt really bad. That pic is of my first organic grow no bottled nutes. You sir are straight up jealous and a liar. If I can remember you said you was gonna try leds and what happened? All I see is you talking shit with no backing to your point and here's another shitty looking pic lol2016-04-30 14.24.18.jpg
 

CannaBruh

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just busting balls broseph, you seem hell bent to prove that LEDs don't work or something.

Can't we just come together and put some of that clear rosin I've been seeing in the air?
 

Sativied

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QUOTE="REALSTYLES, post: 12555290, member: 270011"]Damn you sound butt hurt really bad. That pic is of my first organic grow no bottled nutes. You sir are straight up jealous and a liar. If I can remember you said you was gonna try leds and what happened? All I see is you talking shit with no backing to your point and here's another shitty looking pic lolView attachment 3670869[/QUOTE]
All in your head RS. What do you have what I could be jealous about?? :lol: You connected led spots together based on supras info and think that puts you in a position that makes someone like me jealous. Zero skills, zero decency, zero dignity, zero intellectual honesty, as dumb as a rock, yet makes me jealous. Absurd to think anyone will ever be jealous of you for growing cannabis under led... so transparently trying to derive ego from growing cannabis. And still pretending you are in my league and in a match... That's actually your best insult. As if I compete in the retard league... too.

"Was gonna try led"
Never said that "liar". The fact you think I need to "try" led shows nicely how clueless you really are.

Personally, I don't take credit for what my plants do. That would be like taking credit for not doing stupid things. By the time you manage to finish a grow with healthy plants (where are the leaves...) nobody is going to be jealous buddy, it just means it took you a long time to stop acting stupid or happened to grow some more fast flowering forgiving nasty afghanicas...

Your plants do look better and better though... Well bud anyway (where are the leaves...). You are learning and soon you will be able to ditch the training wheels and grow under real horticulture lighting (that's a joke... Laugh and get that butt unhurt, didn't know gargoyles could cry like babies.)
 

Sativied

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just busting balls broseph, you seem hell bent to prove that LEDs don't work or something.

Can't we just come together and put some of that clear rosin I've been seeing in the air?
What good would this thread be without the classic strawman attack from the led cult... just because led fanboys are hell bent on proving that "led works" doesn't mean I automatically have the desire to do the opposite. T5 "works" too. Please understand people with no desire to fool themselves don't do that black and white projection thing, it's a typical fanboy trait. Also typical are the empty accussations from the fanboys, they are all in your head and never actually follow a relevant quote or any valid arguments. In other words, just more bullshit.

I clearly stated I don't think it necessarily says much about the leds, the crap results I see are probably largely a result of people acting dumber than they are. Which fanboys do by definition.

What does not "work" is bullshit, ignorance, stupidity, bullshit, misinformation, bullshit, and intellectual dishonesty, and last but not least, bull shit. Things you guys produce very efficiently, but effectiveness is zero point zero. Things that like @REALSTYLES are only in the cannabis community because prohibition made it worthwhile for uneducated failures with nothing else to add to this planet. None of the led fanboys would be hired in a professional setting and in the rare exceptional case they'd be fired as soon as they open their mouth and thump bibled nonsense.

And no, I don't think we can. I got bored with you clowns. The led fanboys can only post strawmans and other classic dumb fallacies which makes it hard to even read one sentence of the constant blatant and shameless bullshitting going on in this forum. Can't admit to be wrong about something - and thus incapable of learning in the first place - cause then it's like saying in the led church "led doesn't work". You collectively decided your goal is to save electricity and efficient growing equates to saving electricity yet cry blasphemy when actual plants are introduced in the equation. Too stupid and literally hopeless.

No matter how many pics you post, it won't change how full of bullshit you guys are. Take my advice, go back to school or learn a trade or skill becauce much sooner than later you will be obsolete and laughed out of the cannabis industry.
 

Sativied

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omg :cuss:^^
Sat...i'm pretty sure you'll ve fun riding those cree beasts :!:
About 4gpw according to the Bibled lol.. I may just get some philips instead just to fuck with the led fanboys here. Or an old blurple ufo. There were better looking blurple grown buds in the dutch grow forums already before anyone here produced something decent with white cobs designed for bay lighting... Same deal there, mostly uneducated glorified drugdealers who never had an interest in growing plants, but at least they don't kid themselves about what good results entail. People who pull 6 runs a year, max from the space they hace, instead of pretending they grow "efficient" when saving on electricity. If the white cobs were half as great as the led fanboys here pretend, @REALSTYLES wouldn't be living in the ghetto anymore. Same deal if he would have bought a gavtita and asked me for advice two years ago. He'd be the biggest gavita fanboy on the forum and be able to afford a visit to a barber.
 

CannaBruh

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I'm not gonna spend the time to read all that. We know you don't like LEDs. That has been established.

They are working here, and are a far improvement over conventional HID, whether one is better is subjective. Here, the pros >> any cons, move along.
 

ttystikk

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I'm not gonna spend the time to read all that. We know you don't like LEDs. That has been established.

They are working here, and are a far improvement over conventional HID, whether one is better is subjective. Here, the pros >> any cons, move along.
If it's a subjective difference, everyone who's seen or smoked the results around here is convinced of it. So I'd call that a unanimous decision; COB LED brings the dank!
 

CannaBruh

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If it's a subjective difference, everyone who's seen or smoked the results around here is convinced of it. So I'd call that a unanimous decision; COB LED brings the dank!
I've yet to taste cannabis grown under LED, but I know a ripe banana when I see one. Half of the HID growers cannot even finish a plant properly, no offense to anyone in particular, it's just something I've observed over the last ten or so years.

I've got a few flats of green veggies, kale, spinach, romaine, peppers and they are rocking under 300VA of COB (have not measured true watts)

I'm making a trip out to Colorado here in June will have to meet up with anyone and do some testing :weed:
 

Sativied

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I'm not gonna spend the time to read all that.
Of course not, you much rather make your own shit up...

We know you don't like LEDs. That has been established.
Nope, just bullshit again with nothing to back it up. It's you fanboys that "like" led, doesn't mean non-fanboys dislike led. That absurdism from the led community at riu. You have established nothing whatsoever, just crapped out some more bullshit, like usual.

You again, ironically, illustrate your problem so clearly, you're not capable of distinguishing what is true from what you wish. Aka a lack of basic intellect, "the capacity for understanding, thinking, and reasoning, as distinct from feeling or wishing"

I understand, think and reason, you apply feelings, get emotionally invested in light lol and lots and lots of wishful thinking. We're like different species causing major communication problems, hopeless.

They are working here.
So does fluo... That simpleton strawman attack "led works" has been addressed and ridiculed enough already so have fun chanting that on your own.
 
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