HIGH TIMES Advanced Grow Feature Spinning Lights!

They claim:

“The most powerful, efficient HID systems on the market today.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAczZkRd0A

Opinions? Technical info to share?

They use multiple small lights and multiple small lights are not likely to beat a single stationary large light but since I have not tried them I can't say for sure that it's bullshit.

I can say for sure that anything in High Times magazine is highly suspect when it comes to paid advertisers and given enough money they would say incandescent light bulbs are the next coming of christ.

They always have been and always will be "for sale" on their opinions until the day that pigs fly or the world turns upside down.

If you think it out logically small bulbs spinning around aren't going to cover more vertival growth any better, it doesn't go up and down to change the angle of light and cover more plant matter that way and a bunch of small lights in realtive close proximity and basically the same angle will NEVER EVER EVER have more penetration than a single big one that goes against physics and common sense.

They spin, it looks cool, and it makes a lot of money for the advertisements and without the gimmick there would be no product to advertise. High times if you want to prove me wrong send me one and I will gladly compare it to any one of my 14 1kw hps's or whatever you think is fair. Yes the 14k I can't run because I don't have enough a/c yet but I am running a couple of them and would replace one no problem if you really believe it would beat a $50 warehouse ballast with a $20 sylvania general purpose HPS bulb.

If I end up wrong I will tell everyone gladly I would be very happy to be wrong about anything that truly grows more product for less electricity as would a million other people but you can pretty much bet my offer will not be taken up by either the manufacturer or high times and they probably fall in line with the idea that LED's can grow more watt for watt which has been claimed by HT many times and proven to be a lie lie lie.

WOOT! A Disco for Plants!

That's not natural at all! The insides of the bulbs must be suffering.

Looks pretty stupid to me to be honest. I'm happy with my two 1000 watt HPS lights staying still.

my initial opinion was pretty much the same, especially when the guy made the claim that it was the most efficient, etc. as i watched the light flickering as it blew by, i couldn't help but consider its unnatural effect and how it didn't appear beneficial. i'm thinkin' BS!, but wanted a 2nd opinion.

Brought to you by the same people who make fishing lures that catch more fishermen than fish.

Kash Krop said:

Brought to you by the same people who make fishing lures that catch more fishermen than fish.

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Nice! LOL!

Looks very expensive. The good so far looks like ability to have multiple light spectrums on plants better mirror outdoor growing. Movement would be good across the plant area so more then one side of the plants or both sides get direct light. No more venting air cooled hoods and fans because of the speed of the lights movement and cooling the bulbs. That speed looks too much though.

I saw a tv show recently of what Marc Emory said was the most well put together and expensive (plus 1 million dollars) grow op he has seen. The grow warehouse or rooms if you call it had slow (much slower but rotating lights of more then 4 lights in a circle. The show was called Explorer about weed.

OregonMeds said:

If you think it out logically small bulbs spinning around aren't going to cover more vertival growth any better, it doesn't go up and down to change the angle of light and cover more plant matter that way and a bunch of small lights in realtive close proximity and basically the same angle will NEVER EVER EVER have more penetration than a single big one that goes against physics and common sense.

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Oops, you reversed your logic.

A light moving vertically will not significantly change the angle of incident.
Unlike a light that moves horizontally, which will.

That change in the incident angle gives you greater penetration.
A moving source will always penetrate better than a stationary one.
Typically this is mimicked by moving the plants around.

The spinners probably work well, but your going to pay for it.

BlueBalls said:

Oops, you reversed your logic.

A light moving vertically will not significantly change the angle of incident.
Unlike a light that moves horizontally, which will.

That change in the incident angle gives you greater penetration.
A moving source will always penetrate better than a stationary one.
Typically this is mimicked by moving the plants around.

The spinners probably work well, but your going to pay for it.

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lol, yea im all about keeping the Electricity bill low, i can only imagine how much more electricity those use up

600 - 1000 watt bulb's dont sound small to me either

looks sweet, but ill stick to a stationary light with extra side light's if needed

BlueBalls said:

Oops, you reversed your logic.

A light moving vertically will not significantly change the angle of incident.
Unlike a light that moves horizontally, which will.

That change in the incident angle gives you greater penetration.
A moving source will always penetrate better than a stationary one.
Typically this is mimicked by moving the plants around.

The spinners probably work well, but your going to pay for it.

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They are only using multiple 250w or less bulbs, they have no penetration. The only way I can see to get penetration with them is if they did move vertically and not just spin in a circle.

OregonMeds said:

They are only using multiple 250w or less bulbs, they have no penetration. The only way I can see to get penetration with them is if they did move vertically and not just spin in a circle.

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on the video it says 600-1000 watt bulb's

OregonMeds said:

They are only using multiple 250w or less bulbs, they have no penetration. The only way I can see to get penetration with them is if they did move vertically and not just spin in a circle.

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Agreed. It just seems like a gimmick to me.

yep, looks like a showroom setting or maybe one of the owners tests. Just looks too much. Wonder what the cost and yield would be comparing this set up vs. others more normal set ups in same size rooms? That would be fun to watch a fasttrack photo/video session from week 3 thru chop....in about 5 minutes...I'd pull up a chair...

OH, watch your head. How many times would you have to get the shit knocked out of you before swinging back? I can not believe not one comment about the last second of this video where the guy gets taken down....wack....That'll teach ha....lol..

Relaxed said:

OH, watch your head. How many times would you have to get the shit knocked out of you before swinging back? I can not believe not one comment about the last second of this video where the guy gets taken down....wack....That'll teach ha....lol..

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Wow! I didn't notice that the first time. Good catch.

The inside of the bulbs on the rotating thingy must be so scratched by the HPS middle OMFG..

Stupid... whats the point tbh lol... all that effort for a disco for bitches.... that's jokes

Not forgetting a nice eletric bill

OregonMeds said:

They are only using multiple 250w or less bulbs, they have no penetration.

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The 4 way spinners in the video, and article, are using 400w bulbs.
6 way spinners are available with up to 1kw bulbs.

OregonMeds said:

The only way I can see to get penetration with them is if they did move vertically and not just spin in a circle.

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Moving the source closer will only increase the intensity of the light where it can reach. Moving the light horizontally enables the light to reach otherwise shaded areas, providing greater canopy penetration. Think about how the shady side of your parked car ends up sunny.

There is really nothing groundbreaking about the spinners.
Everything they provide can be achieved using other methods.