Hillary Clinton Goes Big On Gun Policy, Creates Contrast With Bernie Sanders

Sort of, I'm having a little trouble understanding what you're trying to say (sorry). SCOTUS is the final interpreter of the US Constitution, and decides whether or not a case is constitutional (in violation or agreement with the Constitution), and most importantly they get judicial review, where they get to review the actions of the executive and legislative branches. If that's what you were getting at, my bad.

But really, you can't argue that it's "without infrigment of the Right, no matter the firearm," because when it was written they had muzzle loading muskets, and not everyone could actually afford a musket. The Founding Fathers had no idea about machine guns, and I'm willing to bet that if a private citizen owned a cannon, they'd be against that falling under the purview of the 2nd Amendment. The most important thing is that when you look at the debate the US did not have a standing army so many thought militias would be important in protecting the United States (and each individual state). Moreover I highly doubt that they would expect semi-automatic rifles, handguns, etc. etc. etc..

This is actually one of the main reasons why sawed-off shotguns are not covered by the 2nd Amendment and require extensive regulations to get -- that 1st part of the 2nd Amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that a sawed off shotgun has no practical purpose in a militia, thus the effective "ban" on them was Constitutional. In United States v. Miller the court found that "[a] shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument." Which somewhat overturned Presser v. Illinois when they said that the 2nd Amendment was not the right to form militias for a state, but the right of an individual. However in District of Columbia v. Heller they once again asserted that it was a right of the individual.

The 2nd Amendment is a very tricky amendment and has been, historically, up for a lot of debate (even the debate to what the 2nd amendment was going to be had a lot going into it). However the quote that I was referring to in regards to Thomas Jefferson and his memorial is found on the southeast portico and is from a letter he wrote to Samuel Kerchval, "I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as a civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."




The SCOUTUS had nothing to do with penning the document and is tasked only with upholding it. That`s pretty much it unless an Amendment needs to be heard and ruled on, again, nothing to do with the penning of the Amendment or approving of it. It only rules weather or not it is within the Constitution. Most State approved Amendments go before them to be heard or ruled on, But the SCOTUS only decides it`s Constitutionality and I hope I spelled that right.

The only instance of the SCOTUS ever deciding something outside of it`s jurisdiction, was when they ruled on the definition of the word Marriage by using an ambiguity claim about the 14th in the ruling for the Gay so they could meet qualifications they were left out of in an incentive by the Federal Government.

That must never be allowed again, it`s totally not their job. You may see that admission later on and recall needed.
 
The SCOUTUS had nothing to do with penning the document and is tasked only with upholding it. That`s pretty much it unless an Amendment needs to be heard and ruled on, again, nothing to do with the penning of the Amendment or approving of it. It only rules weather or not it is within the Constitution. Most State approved Amendments go before them to be heard or ruled on, But the SCOTUS only decides it`s Constitutionality and I hope I spelled that right.

The only instance of the SCOTUS ever deciding something outside of it`s jurisdiction, was when they ruled on the definition of the word Marriage by using an ambiguity claim about the 14th in the ruling for the Gay so they could meet qualifications they were left out of in an incentive by the Federal Government.

That must never be allowed again, it`s totally not their job. You may see that admission later on and recall needed.
You still hurt because now "the Gay" can get married?

I'll repeat my previous advice:

Don't want a gay marriage?

Don't get one.
 
Sort of, I'm having a little trouble understanding what you're trying to say (sorry). SCOTUS is the final interpreter of the US Constitution, and decides whether or not a case is constitutional (in violation or agreement with the Constitution), and most importantly they get judicial review, where they get to review the actions of the executive and legislative branches. If that's what you were getting at, my bad.

But really, you can't argue that it's "without infrigment of the Right, no matter the firearm," because when it was written they had muzzle loading muskets, and not everyone could actually afford a musket. The Founding Fathers had no idea about machine guns, and I'm willing to bet that if a private citizen owned a cannon, they'd be against that falling under the purview of the 2nd Amendment. The most important thing is that when you look at the debate the US did not have a standing army so many thought militias would be important in protecting the United States (and each individual state). Moreover I highly doubt that they would expect semi-automatic rifles, handguns, etc. etc. etc..

This is actually one of the main reasons why sawed-off shotguns are not covered by the 2nd Amendment and require extensive regulations to get -- that 1st part of the 2nd Amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that a sawed off shotgun has no practical purpose in a militia, thus the effective "ban" on them was Constitutional. In United States v. Miller the court found that "[a] shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument." Which somewhat overturned Presser v. Illinois when they said that the 2nd Amendment was not the right to form militias for a state, but the right of an individual. However in District of Columbia v. Heller they once again asserted that it was a right of the individual.

The 2nd Amendment is a very tricky amendment and has been, historically, up for a lot of debate (even the debate to what the 2nd amendment was going to be had a lot going into it). However the quote that I was referring to in regards to Thomas Jefferson and his memorial is found on the southeast portico and is from a letter he wrote to Samuel Kerchval, "I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as a civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."





You can argue no matter the firearm,...it`s clearly defined that people survived using a gun to hunt with, they also knew that no matter how many rounds come out that bore at any rate, they could not explode on impact, and must be solid rounds. True even today,.. you can own a tank but cannot shoot explosive rounds, only solid projectiles.

They knew many men meant many guns and there`s the rapid fire you think they knew nothing about.

When a Governor selects a Militia, he may or may not know the men personally, but knows they can bring a gun and be supplied as necessary meaning horses, cannon, meds., directions, ROE`s and the rest, here on Gilligan`s Isle.......
 
You still hurt because now "the Gay" can get married?

I'll repeat my previous advice:

Don't want a gay marriage?

Don't get one.


No fuck nuts, it`s something you can`t grasp........evident by your reply and it`s falsehood.

I am against the SCOTUS ruling outside it`s jurisdiction. Sorry you can`t see that. The Gay, as you may or may not know, lost each and every time they presented to the State and the SCOTUS refused to hear that case more than three times. Then one day I was shoot`n at some food, and up from the ground came a brand new rule.....law that is, Democracy`s finest, buy it if you can`t get your way, pass it to see inside.......
 
You can argue no matter the firearm,...it`s clearly defined that people survived using a gun to hunt with, they also knew that no matter how many rounds come out that bore at any rate, they could not explode on impact, and must be solid rounds. True even today,.. you can own a tank but cannot shoot explosive rounds, only solid projectiles.

They knew many men meant many guns and there`s the rapid fire you think they knew nothing about.

When a Governor selects a Militia, he may or may not know the men personally, but knows they can bring a gun and be supplied as necessary meaning horses, cannon, meds., directions, ROE`s and the rest, here on Gilligan`s Isle.......

Clearly you can't argue that "any gun" falls under the purview of the 2nd amendment, because of the first clause. When you have laws, you have things called clauses (and even in basic sentence structure you have the same) and these are important.

And no, you cannot own a tank with a functional gun.

Also SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage was not out of it's scope or "judges legislating from the bench." Read the Court's opinion.
 
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Clearly you can't argue that "any gun" falls under the purview of the 2nd amendment, because of the first clause. When you have laws, you have things called clauses (and even in basic sentence structure you have the same) and these are important.

And no, you cannot own a tank with a functional gun.

Also SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage was not out of it's scope or "judges legislating from the bench." Read the Court's opinion before opening your mouth with your opinion.
You can own anything you want. Tank with a gun. Full autos, and even shotguns with a three inch barrel.

Just got to fill out the right paperwork and get the right tax stamp.
 
Snatch loss from the mouth of victory? I don't get it, but I have a little brain. The gun laws today are being skirted left and right , they do not work effectively, and there is stiff opposition to restrict the implementation of any further gun ownership laws. So the way things stand, as Jeb so eloquently stated, stuff happens, get used to it because that's life in America. But maybe it's time to reconsider what the 2nd Amendment means in todays America, and adjust accordingly. I mean it was once legal to own black people right? That was changed, why not that excuse to play army used by a bunch of dangerous imbeciles (At least most are it seems to me) So, lets start with Universal background checks, everywhere in this country and limit the ownership of weapons to people with an IQ above 60, and those that fail that standard would not be allowed to own a weapon, and must turn their guns in. That should eliminate 2/3 of the guns in America, and would be a good start.

USA's Avg, IQ is 98. They only people that would lose there guns for low IQ would be the black lives matter group. you are going to piss off the wrong group. imo but I will agree with it being a good start. carry on.
 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Were you Joseph Gobbels in a previous life?

Send round the SS to root out enemies of the Reich?
Do you not think i martial law is ordered that national guard or military would not fire on a us citizen if ordered to ???
 
I mean it was once legal to own black people right? ................ So, lets start with Universal background checks, everywhere in this country and limit the ownership of black people to people with an IQ above 60, and those that fail that standard would not be allowed to own a black person, and must turn their black people in. That should eliminate 2/3 of the black people in America, and would be a good start.
SSSooooooo............RACIST!!
 
Clearly you can't argue that "any gun" falls under the purview of the 2nd amendment, because of the first clause. When you have laws, you have things called clauses (and even in basic sentence structure you have the same) and these are important.

And no, you cannot own a tank with a functional gun.

Also SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage was not out of it's scope or "judges legislating from the bench." Read the Court's opinion before opening your mouth with your opinion.


1) The only difference of a brown Bess, is that the barrel doubles as the bullet casing. They do they same thing. The rounds that explode, do as well and that is push projectile out open end or you have a pipe bomb. Rapid fire was clearly defined, as it is today, Don`t gimme that shit about technology,... They knew that war machine and civilian weapons should be regulated between them and militia ready Governors. Still, Governor`s and civilian weapons are both,......weapons. As you know, it falls on the hands of the Governor to assemble his State Militia.

So regardless of the weapon, it`s still a weapon and we can have one. So says your constitution and the regulations for each State.

They allow one, not two explosions for each round. Musket = 1
AK47 = 1

2) yes you can.

3) The SCOTUS sent the bill back three times ruling it a States issue. So what part of States issue does Federal court have again ?
 
1) The only difference of a brown Bess, is that the barrel doubles as the bullet casing. They do they same thing. The rounds that explode, do as well and that is push projectile out open end or you have a pipe bomb. Rapid fire was clearly defined, as it is today, Don`t gimme that shit about technology,... They knew that war machine and civilian weapons should be regulated between them and militia ready Governors. Still, Governor`s and civilian weapons are both,......weapons. As you know, it falls on the hands of the Governor to assemble his State Militia.

So regardless of the weapon, it`s still a weapon and we can have one. So says your constitution and the regulations for each State.

They allow one, not two explosions for each round. Musket = 1
AK47 = 1

2) yes you can.

3) The SCOTUS sent the bill back three times ruling it a States issue. So what part of States issue does Federal court have again ?

If you know so much about weapons you cannot make the argument that an AK-47 and a musket are the same thing. That's just disingenuous and holds no merit.

It's like saying that a helicopter and a horse are the same thing because at one point cavalry units rode horses, but now they ride in helicopters.
 
If you know so much about weapons you cannot make the argument that an AK-47 and a musket are the same thing. That's just disingenuous and holds no merit.

It's like saying that a helicopter and a horse are the same thing because at one point cavalry units rode horses, but now they ride in helicopters.



Go get the gun......nuff said.
 
Go get the gun......nuff said.

A musket has a range of 50ms and can fire 3 rounds per minute. It is a muzzle loading weapon that is operated by a flintlock firing mechanism.
An AK-47 has a range of 400 meters, fires 600 rounds per minute, is magazine fed, and uses a gas operated rotating bolt to fire.

They are not the same thing, the only thing they have in common is that they fire a bullet. It has eight times the range, and fires 200 times the amount of bullets per minute.
 
If you know so much about weapons you cannot make the argument that an AK-47 and a musket are the same thing. That's just disingenuous and holds no merit.

It's like saying that a helicopter and a horse are the same thing because at one point cavalry units rode horses, but now they ride in helicopters.



for the stoner part of you,....each round out of an AK explodes once, each round out of a flint-lock, explodes once. Time has nothing to do with it unless you compare the two gun`s capabilities. The AK has time all over a flint-lock,...but still, each round explodes once.
 
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