Hillary Clinton Goes Big On Gun Policy, Creates Contrast With Bernie Sanders

pnwmystery · Oct 5, 2015

OddBall1st said:
for the stoner part of you,....each round out of an AK explodes once, each round out of a flint-lock, explodes once. Time has nothing to do with it unless you compare the two gun`s capabilities. The AK has time all over a flint-lock,...but still, each round explodes once.

Lol I only smoke medical condition, i.e. when I need to and not all the time. I have no idea what you're getting at, are you stoned?

Edited to add: Rereading your post a few times, I actually have some idea of what you're getting at, but that's not how you define a firearm and its capabilities. Otherwise, a cannon is the same thing as a musket, or a howitzer, or even a missile. What about a Nuke? A nuke explodes once.

OddBall1st · Oct 5, 2015

pnwmystery said:
A musket has a range of 50ms and can fire 3 rounds per minute. It is a muzzle loading weapon that is operated by a flintlock firing mechanism.
An AK-47 has a range of 400 meters, fires 600 rounds per minute, is magazine fed, and uses a gas operated rotating bolt to fire.

They are not the same thing, the only thing they have in common is that they fire a bullet. It has eight times the range, and fires 200 times the amount of bullets per minute.

For the idiot in you,.....

....A round that goes boom after you shoot it, you can`t have, that can be labeled Military on a Federal level. You can have the gun though. You`re limited to one boom.

whitebb2727 · Oct 5, 2015

pnwmystery said:
Lol I only smoke medical condition, i.e. when I need to and not all the time. I have no idea what you're getting at, are you stoned?

He is getting at that in war the objective is fire power superiority. The point he is making it that each ak and musket go bang once per round.

For me, with muskets, to match you, with ak's" I would need 67 soldiers for every one of yours. It equals rounds down range.

I'm sure our founders thought about weapon advances. They were warriors and inventors. Do you not think they could see repeating arms or maybe even wanted to invent some themselves?

The argument comes down to we also need to protect ourselves from tyranny. We also need to be able to protect ourselves from invaders. How can we do either with a musket when either of those would have better weapons?

OddBall1st · Oct 5, 2015

pnwmystery said:
Lol I only smoke medical condition, i.e. when I need to and not all the time. I have no idea what you're getting at, are you stoned?

Edited to add: Rereading your post a few times, I actually have some idea of what you're getting at, but that's not how you define a firearm and its capabilities. Otherwise, a cannon is the same thing as a musket, or a howitzer, or even a missile. What about a Nuke? A nuke explodes once.

A cannon is a type of indirect shot. they are usually big because they go far which is the point of a indirect shot so.....

Ya, that`s a big cannon.

What comes out, is regulated.

A missile explodes twice, you can have one that explodes once, (engine) If you take away the engine, you are left with a bomb, and that`s Military.

The Nuke,...I laughed so hard when I read that.

OddBall1st · Oct 5, 2015

If I`m going to protect you from tyranny, I can`t give you take-over/stand-off weapons,.....can I ?

pnwmystery · Oct 5, 2015

A musket however is unable to penetrate anything past 90 meters, an AK-47 like I said, has a range of 400m. A brown bess took 100 grains of black powder, a 7.62x39mm bullet has 123 grains. When you fire a Brown Bess it produces less than 6,000psi in the barrel, whereas an AK-47 producesa maximum of 51,490 psi (about eight and a half times more psi!). It's PHYSICS, an AK-47 is so much more lethal than a brown bess it's ridiculous. They are not comparable weapons by any standard.

pnwmystery · Oct 5, 2015

Also @OddBall1st No, the brown bess' barrel doesn't double as the cartridge casing because it requires a percussion cap. So the round and charge are together, then you have a separate primer (the percussion cap). An AK-47 has the round, charge, casing, and primer all in one bullet.

OddBall1st · Oct 5, 2015

pnwmystery said:
Also @OddBall1st No, the brown bess' barrel doesn't double as the cartridge casing because it requires a percussion cap. So the round and charge are together, then you have a separate primer (the percussion cap). An AK-47 has the round, charge, casing, and primer all in one bullet.

My bad, I thought a Brown Bess was a muzzleloader. Wooops.

UncleBuck · Oct 5, 2015

Harrekin said:
a punitive tax on the rich would mean their flight to another country.

fox news called. they said they had it covered for you.

UncleBuck · Oct 5, 2015

nitro harley said:
They only people that would lose there guns for low IQ would be the black lives matter group.

the fucking irony.

schuylaar · Oct 6, 2015

OddBall1st said:
No fuck nuts, it`s something you can`t grasp........evident by your reply and it`s falsehood.

I am against the SCOTUS ruling outside it`s jurisdiction. Sorry you can`t see that. The Gay, as you may or may not know, lost each and every time they presented to the State and the SCOTUS refused to hear that case more than three times. Then one day I was shoot`n at some food, and up from the ground came a brand new rule.....law that is, Democracy`s finest, buy it if you can`t get your way, pass it to see inside.......

actually, obama just exercised his option as president..a total shock..i know..how dare he? :cuss:

McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

schuylaar · Oct 6, 2015

Harrekin said:
How many times have I told you we believe virtually 100% of the same stuff except I know that a punitive tax on the rich would mean their flight to another country.

what is up with this?..3rd time.

Harrekin · Oct 6, 2015

schuylaar said:
what is up with this?..3rd time.

It's what happens when the personal tax rate is too high.

Look at some of Ireland's richest people:

Dennis O'Brien, Networth 40 billion, Country of Residence?

Malta

Bono (professional cunt): Country of Residence?

Netherlands

The list goes on...

Same thing happens when you charge shitty taxes on bank interest, there's a run on the banks.

schuylaar · Oct 6, 2015

Harrekin said:
It's what happens when the personal tax rate is too high.

Look at some of Ireland's richest people:

Dennis O'Brien, Networth 40 billion, Country of Residence?

Malta

Bono (professional cunt): Country of Residence?

Netherlands

The list goes on...

Same thing happens when you charge shitty taxes on bank interest, there's a run on the banks.

then i guess they're not ireland's wealthy..just because you were born in a country doesn't mean you have to live there.

Harrekin · Oct 6, 2015

schuylaar said:
then i guess they're not ireland's wealthy..just because you were born in a country doesn't mean you have to live there.

They "live abroad" for 6 months and one day of each year, then they're free to live here and pay taxes elsewhere.

You don't think the ultra-Capitalists that you CONSTANTLY moan break the rules will just keep their fortunes in America and get fucked in the ass or do you not think they'd offshore it?

It might be a hard concept to grasp when you have nothing, but people with money actually manage their fortunes.

althor · Oct 6, 2015

I saw this thing yesterday on voting records and the end result...

According to Hillary's voting record, she is more Republican than the most staunch of Republicans.

althor · Oct 6, 2015

Harrekin said:
They "live abroad" for 6 months and one day of each year, then they're free to live here and pay taxes elsewhere.

You don't think the ultra-Capitalists that you CONSTANTLY moan break the rules will just keep their fortunes in America and get fucked in the ass or do you not think they'd offshore it?

It might be a hard concept to grasp when you have nothing, but people with money actually manage their fortunes.

You are right on target. Why do libs think that if we change laws to hurt rich people, rich people won't just move their assets around to avoid those laws.... It is fruitless.

Uncle Ben · Oct 6, 2015

althor said:
You are right on target. Why do libs think that if we change laws to hurt rich people, rich people won't just move their assets around to avoid those laws.... It is fruitless.

....cause libs are stupid.

It's also a jealous thingie going on for these societal failures, these dropouts. Have-nots vs haves.

spandy · Oct 6, 2015

Harrekin said:
It's what happens when the personal tax rate is too high.

Look at some of Ireland's richest people:

Dennis O'Brien, Networth 40 billion, Country of Residence?

Malta

Bono (professional cunt): Country of Residence?

Netherlands

The list goes on...

Same thing happens when you charge shitty taxes on bank interest, there's a run on the banks.

If my internet provider makes changes that ultimately is going to cost me 5 bucks more a month while at the same time someone else is offering a 5 dollar discount for the same shit, I switch and never look back.

WTF makes people think the rich wont do the same thing to save thousands/millions? Just because they can afford to throw it away, doesn't mean they will.

althor · Oct 6, 2015

I love how Warren Buffett always pretends to support liberal views yet still has 67 billion to his name....

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