Holy Smoke: Strawberry Diesel - 400w Waterfarm

So this will be my 2nd grow, first was under all cfl bulbs. Harvest was not too bad for a first timer. I'm growing in a 36"x20"x60" tent this time and using 400w mh and hps under a cooltube. Going to scrog too. Basically another SCOTTYBALLS inspired grow. More to come in the next couple weeks.

The water here is pretty bad so I'll probably be using store bought distilled water until I get a RO filter, or I may just use it the entire time. 70 cents a gallon for 001 ppm water. I dunno about that RO filter now, haha...

pics? ive been wanting to try these seeds... however i just ordered

dinafem powerkush
dinafem blue hash plant
dinafem blue widow - freebie
dinafem moby dick - freebie
royal queen seeds amnesia haze
G13 Labs sour candy

all feminized! when i get em and they finish germing i'll get a journal going...

currently i have mind bender, grand daddy purple and purple goober growing

I'll get pictures up when everything is ready. Thread is a few days early, I don't have everything setup yet but I will soon. My first grow journal is in my signature.

waterfarm will be here tomorrow, same with tent. Light, fan & filter gonna be Wednesday. Pretty excited to do a grow in a tent. Seed is germinating in rockwool, it's already cracked and the taproot is 1/4" or so long. Put it in the rockwool last night so it's moving along faster than I thought. I tested out some bagseed and it took 3 days to pop so I'm ahead of schedule a bit so it's looking like I'm going to be using CFL bulbs until I get the light setup. Still need to build a scrog screen. Probably will be doing that in the next few days. Going to be using gen hydro's 3 part nutes until I get my FloraNova Bloom that apparently is taking forever to ship.

Excitement is in the air.

Subbed, we're along the same lines.. also using 3part GH.

you should put this thread in your sig too.

steeZz said:

Subbed, we're along the same lines.. also using 3part GH.

you should put this thread in your sig too.

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Thanks for the sub, I'll check your out too and thanks for reminding me about the signature

can anyone tell me how tall the strawb diesel grows???

It's medium height.. so around 2 1/2 to 4 feet tall.

Yep, it doesn't get too tall, but it's not that short either. So, waterfarm arrived no problems. Tent however, I can not say the same. Sender put wrong address so I had to go to UPS and correct it but it was still on the truck so I have to wait for him to go back or he might bring it by today, who knows. Hopefully he will bring it by. Seed is ready to go into farm but farm is not ready for seed. THIS is annoying, but shit happens.

Just threw it into the waterfarm, had to leave it in the rockwool. It got too far along and the tap root already had a ton of mini roots growing out from it, going to upload a picture from my phone in a few since I have yet to pick up a cable for my camera.

and here they are...

Hey man - looking good so far! Is the root already grown into the rockwool? Not to worry though, once it stands up in there it'll be fine. The exact same thing happened to me with the water - I started out buying water at the grocery store for the rez, but once it starting using over a gallon in a day, that was no longer an option... We use our RO water filter for drinking water too, so it was a valuable purchase. I wouldn't worry too much about the Flora Nova being late - you won't need it for about a week or two yet... Remember that the RO water you buy in the store will need to be pH adjusted, as it usually is about 7.5 pH... Also, don't worry about the screen for a good month yet - do some LST early on if you need to as well - that also will buy you more time before the screen is needed. Same goes for your 400w light - the CFL will be all it needs for the first week or so... hope that helps! Good luck - I'm following along! =)

ok i got 4 pots that are 53cm tall, my tent is 180cm h X 1m sq. im growing 4 strawberry diesel and just read that they grow 160cm PLUS.............when i see medium height i think 1meter. these are not going to fit into my tent with the light needing to be 30cm away the max i can grow my plants too is 1m. do these plants really get that big?? i guess i could just put them into flower when they get to 30cm or so...does this sound correct so far? how badly will this effect total yield??

I see why you guys stack the rocks to the top. Water splashes everywhere. The shell fell off this morning and I can see the first sets of leaves(I forget what they are called) Not the actual leaves. The first two that show up. Yea the root has already grown pretty deep into the rockwool so I'm just going to leave it be. I do need to ph adjust the water, I'm not too worried about pH right now, it was around 7.0, I need to get some pH down though. I was going to build the screen anyways, it shouldn't take long and prob will only cost 5 bucks, so when comes time I will be ready for it. I completely forgot about pH up and down so I need to go run out and get that later today. ppms were around 150. The water before I poured it into the waterfarm was 0, so the hydroton kicked the ppms up by 150.

I have a PUR filter on the faucet, it does drop the ppms of the water a bit and it tastes quite a bit better. I may end up using that water once things get moving. I used unfiltered well water for the soil grow and I had no idea what the ppms were then.

Just a little note. The tent I'm using is lighthouse hydro, it's a pretty nice tent. Got it for cheap, it does have a few places where light leaks through, but it's barley noticeable.

and for the record I put the seed in wet *non bleached* coffee filter Saturday, then in the rockwool Sunday. It sprouted Sunday afternoon, and I put it in the waterfarm Monday afternoon so that will be day 1. Today will be day 2.

james gordon said:

ok i got 4 pots that are 53cm tall, my tent is 180cm h X 1m sq. im growing 4 strawberry diesel and just read that they grow 160cm PLUS.............when i see medium height i think 1meter. these are not going to fit into my tent with the light needing to be 30cm away the max i can grow my plants too is 1m. do these plants really get that big?? i guess i could just put them into flower when they get to 30cm or so...does this sound correct so far? how badly will this effect total yield??

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Start training them, theres different techniques, TONS, to meet your height regulation.
LSTing, Topping, FIMing, Supercropping, ect ect ect...

Hey mr2shim, subbed up for the ride. Best of luck with the grow. I'm a big fan of the SCOTTYBALLS grows. Starting up my first waterfarm/scrog grow right now, too. Should be posting a journal shortly, though I want to be sure my seed germs and takes to the hydroton before I start the documentation.

kriznarf said:

Hey mr2shim, subbed up for the ride. Best of luck with the grow. I'm a big fan of the SCOTTYBALLS grows. Starting up my first waterfarm/scrog grow right now, too. Should be posting a journal shortly, though I want to be sure my seed germs and takes to the hydroton before I start the documentation.

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Cool. Send me a link when you get things rolling.

The light, fan and filter setup cam for my grow. It was a bitch to install in a 36"x20" space, but I got it done. Temps are at 84 F, they went up from 79 F. MH is seriously bright compared to the cfl bubs I used for last grow. Cool tube is perfect for the tent, at first I thought it was going to not be that good and I should of bought a hood, but given the space a hood would have been impossible to install with an 18: carbon filter and a fan. Will be posting pictures later, I need to lay down for a while. Fan is louder than I expected, may need to look into ways to quite it a bit.

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I see why you guys stack the rocks to the top. Water splashes everywhere. The shell fell off this morning and I can see the first sets of leaves(I forget what they are called) Not the actual leaves. The first two that show up. Yea the root has already grown pretty deep into the rockwool so I'm just going to leave it be. I do need to ph adjust the water, I'm not too worried about pH right now, it was around 7.0, I need to get some pH down though. I was going to build the screen anyways, it shouldn't take long and prob will only cost 5 bucks, so when comes time I will be ready for it. I completely forgot about pH up and down so I need to go run out and get that later today. ppms were around 150. The water before I poured it into the waterfarm was 0, so the hydroton kicked the ppms up by 150.

I have a PUR filter on the faucet, it does drop the ppms of the water a bit and it tastes quite a bit better. I may end up using that water once things get moving. I used unfiltered well water for the soil grow and I had no idea what the ppms were then.

Just a little note. The tent I'm using is lighthouse hydro, it's a pretty nice tent. Got it for cheap, it does have a few places where light leaks through, but it's barley noticeable.

and for the record I put the seed in wet *non bleached* coffee filter Saturday, then in the rockwool Sunday. It sprouted Sunday afternoon, and I put it in the waterfarm Monday afternoon so that will be day 1. Today will be day 2.

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Cool, looking good so far man! Those first small leaves are cotelydons I think. I had the exact same issue with my water ppms at the start - the hydroton indeed does that to your water for the first bit - don't sweat it, no harm no foul in the long run and it doesn't effect anything that early on. You'll notice during your first few rez changes that the hydroton leaves some sediment at the bottom of the rez as well, but since it's 'inert', there's not an issue with it harming the plant. I rinsed my hydroton twice before starting mine, and it still caused an increase in ppms... after this first round, the hydroton will be 'seasoned', and when it's re-used, it won't do that anymore. The waterfarm 'splashing' is another thing I ran into, but as you said, the more hydroton you have filled right up to the bottom of the drip-ring, the less splashing. I noticed it will still splash a bit though, and once it's been in there for a few months, you'll notice build-up on your tent floor from the nuted water 'misting' or 'splashing' irratically over the edge of the bucket and creating a discolored film on the bottom of the tent...no big.

Edit: Looking at your pics - looks almost identical to what mine looked like when I started!!

mr2shim said:

Cool. Send me a link when you get things rolling.

The light, fan and filter setup cam for my grow. It was a bitch to install in a 36"x20" space, but I got it done. Temps are at 84 F, they went up from 79 F. MH is seriously bright compared to the cfl bubs I used for last grow. Cool tube is perfect for the tent, at first I thought it was going to not be that good and I should of bought a hood, but given the space a hood would have been impossible to install with an 18: carbon filter and a fan. Will be posting pictures later, I need to lay down for a while. Fan is louder than I expected, may need to look into ways to quite it a bit.

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Right on man - sounds like you're good to go! Yeah, the big HID light is def a ton brighter - and I see your temps are now a tad high. 84 shouldn't be too bad, although any higher and you may notice slower growth. Do you have a passive intake? (vents in the bottom-sides of the tent) Can't wait to see the pics! I think we have the same camera! =)

A little help would be nice, I pulled out the rockwool to see if the root had came through and it did. Then the very tip of it, probably 1/32" broke off. The root was still coming through, should it be ok or? Haven't had this happen before.

Dayzt said:

Right on man - sounds like you're good to go! Yeah, the big HID light is def a ton brighter - and I see your temps are now a tad high. 84 shouldn't be too bad, although any higher and you may notice slower growth. Do you have a passive intake? (vents in the bottom-sides of the tent) Can't wait to see the pics! I think we have the same camera! =)

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All pics taken so far have been with my camera phone. I have a Rebel XT. I actually saved one of your pictures to my desktop and noticed you have a T3i. So jealous I am.

Well, from what I read about tap root tips breaking off. Almost every thread I read the plant recovered. So I'm not gonna worry about it. No, it's not passive, cool tube and a 4" inline fan.