Home made cabinet for 1st CFL grow!!

Thanks Blaze1 and Snipe,

I appreciate your guys help with this.

I have been mulling it over and I am going to transplant them later today or tomorrow. Like I said, not sure what I did besides over watering(lol), but they are stunted for sure. It is just some bagseed though so who knows. Something about those peat pots and the M/G organic. I dont think they can handle it and of course overwatering causes more nutes to be released?

I think when I transplant them, I am going to cull the group down to four. Your rite Snipe, I do need more light. I have a couple lighting fixtures I am going to be adding to the group. I am trying to add figure out the reflectors. That will give me a total of 9 27w 6500k's. the 2-4's, and a 27w 2700K. That should be more than enough for this stage. I do not have a source for the 42w 6500k's and I do not want to order them off internet rite now. The big box lumbers both carrie 42w 2700k's but not the 6500K unless you buy the fixture with the ballast. Guess I could try to order them from the store themselves? Will see.

I'll post more pics when i'm done with x-plant.

you dont need the 42w bulbs unless you have the money to spend. the 26w ones are fine as long as you dont mind having the extra bulbs and placing them around and yada yada. that mg soil dont seem to be very friendly i see alot of bad seeds like that on here in mg. i always thought it was just user error but the more i see it the more i think its just not good for seedlings. if you can find some stuff with the brand Masters Nursery that shits pretty good. our local gardening store switched out all the shit for christmas stuff. all they had for soil left was miracle grow or that masters nursery (masters was like half the price to) i went with the masters and they love it i just recently started giving them nutes after about 3 weeks. by the way that stuff was 6 or 7$ on sale for a 20lb bag heres a link for the one i got

http://www.masternursery.com/masternursery.cfm?Action=ViewDetails&ItemID=1&Category=1

Well like I said, I was going to make some changes to try and help the girls out.

With the help you guys have posted and all the research I have done, think I might be getting it rite.

I have now culled the group to 4 and of those, I transplanted three of them to a new home of a mixture of 80/20 Pro's Choice/M.G. Organic. I kept one in the cup to see how she is going to react to the flushing I gave her with 5.0 water. Oh ya, forgot to let you know that I was a little weary of the meter I had because it was giving inconsistent readings. I went to another big box and bought a new one and now I believe I am getting good readings. Anyway, When I checked my soil after watering it read over 7.2. Since that is no were near proper Ph, I watered them with vinegar/water @ 5.0 and now the cup, new transplants and the new germs I am trying to start are about 6.2.

With the Ph was so high, I know I had nute lock big time! Now that I have it lowered maybe these girls will take off. I also started 4 new seeds of 3 different strains just in case my seedlings are done for.

I also added two more light sockets to the fixture. Whats cool about these is they are adjustable. I can move them up or down so if the plants ever take off, I can drop them down so they will get to the inside of the plants. I also added some more mylar to a couple more reflectors I made. Looks allot cleaner now.

With the extra light there the heat was starting to climb a little higher than I like(84) so I removed one of the shelf boards to open it up a little more and it seems to have done the trick, back down to 79.

Going to watch how much water and keep an eye on the Ph and we will see what happens?

Peace!

So I checked the Lumens with my Home Cheapo meter and it is reading around 2000 at the plants.

Most gardeners here say 3000 per plant so I know i am OK there because I've seen better grows with less than I have. Is this to much for the girls? My temps are good again at 79 with the fan on them also? I dont know, just wondering?

your good man, just relax.. for your next batch start them out in regular soil from your backyard, the seedlings have all the nutes they need for the first couple weeks.. once the roots out grow ur starter cups then transplant and start the nutes a couple days after to minimize shock.

also, you might want to start lst on the plants after the 4th or 5th node cause u'll run outta head room pretty quick in that cab. Im 5 weeks (4 veg, 1 flower) into my first grow and its lookign amazing.. i just used 4x42 watt cool white cfls for the entire grow so far.. im going to add 2 more once i hit wally world up.

heres a link to my grow
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/274992-first-grow-cfls-stealth.html

Thanks Scap and Skervy,

Trying to relaxe but this is the first time so you know how that goes. I dont think I will use the backyard dirt because its 10 degrees here and I dont think I could dig it up.LOL

Went to store and got Pro Choice with no nutes. Gonna give this a try and see whats up.

So things are starting to take off.lol

The transplant really helped the girls. It did not seem to bother them at all because they have grown more in 2 days trhan they did in 2 wks. they are starting to show new growth and it seems to be happening pretty quick.

Finally bought a cheesy humidity meter with a thermometer from Lowe's for less than 3 bucks. I kknow its cheesy but I checked it against my friends weather station and it was rite on. Maybe I should post it on the Cheap things from WalMart thread? But seriosly, so know I know that my R/M is at 34%. All the threads say 40-60 for veg and 20-40 for flower. I filled up 2 party cups and have them set infront of the fan sorta like a jury rigged humidifier. Not sure if it will raise it any but it can't hurt.

Hung up the snowman to add a little xmas magic. Gonna need it with these girls.lol

Thanks again for everybodies help!

Peace

bigman4270 said:

So things are starting to take off.lol

The transplant really helped the girls. It did not seem to bother them at all because they have grown more in 2 days trhan they did in 2 wks. they are starting to show new growth and it seems to be happening pretty quick.

Finally bought a cheesy humidity meter with a thermometer from Lowe's for less than 3 bucks. I kknow its cheesy but I checked it against my friends weather station and it was rite on. Maybe I should post it on the Cheap things from WalMart thread? But seriosly, so know I know that my R/M is at 34%. All the threads say 40-60 for veg and 20-40 for flower. I filled up 2 party cups and have them set infront of the fan sorta like a jury rigged humidifier. Not sure if it will raise it any but it can't hurt.

Hung up the snowman to add a little xmas magic. Gonna need it with these girls.lol

Thanks again for everybodies help!

Peace

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Sorry for the quality of some of the Pics. Macro not so great. I also should of asked will 34% R/M be OK if my Party Cup trick dont work.

Well after 4 wks I am giving up on this grow. Given more time they may have come back but I am not up to waiting longer.

The good news is I have started a new grow so I will post a new thread and hopefuly this goes better.

A great big +rep for all those who tryed to help and thanks to all those who stoped by.

Peace!

Big

bigman4270 said:

Well after 4 wks I am giving up on this grow. Given more time they may have come back but I am not up to waiting longer.

The good news is I have started a new grow so I will post a new thread and hopefuly this goes better.

A great big +rep for all those who tryed to help and thanks to all those who stoped by.

Peace!

Big

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Bigman, very best of luck this time round If you need any help feel free to PM me if you wish, get past the first 2/3 weeks and the rest is pretty much plain sailing

ms.

see if you can find this stuff around where you live. it was one of the only soils besides mg around here after they cleared out for winter. its cheap as shit and obviously nice results as seen with my plants i didnt even use the actual potting soil either i got the bumper crop stuff i thought was soil till i got home and read the bag. all turned out well though and ill definitely be buying it again when i need more. it was 6$ on sale normal price 7$ (not much of a sale but still) for a 20lb bag. i filled 2 16qt tubs with it some perlite and a little bit of yard dirt still have like half a bag left more then enough for another round in my tubs.

http://www.masternursery.com/masternursery.cfm?Action=ViewCategory&Category=1&thiscat=products

Hey Skervy! Found a source but none till spring.

Found a brand called Black Gold to use their Organic blend with a NPK of .05/.00/.00 and some M/G perlite with a .04/.01/.06 NPK mixed together at 80/20 for some new seedlings I have germinating.

I mixed the B/G with a mix called Profesional Blend at a 60/30/10 ratio for some seedlings I have growing that are 11 days old but I think the Profesional Blend is to woody and get's to tight when it dries out so I am going to go with the 80/20 mix from above for the new girls to see how they do.

I am going to start a new thread with pics of the seedlings this weekend as well as the newly geminated seeds planted.

Peace,

Big



http://blackgold.bz/BG_past_articles/Natural_Organic_May08.html

aww thats to bad they were just starting

Thanks for stopping by T@ll. It's all good about the grow. This is all part of the learning expierience. I will be starting a new thread this weekend, please stop by and check it out.

Man this gardening shit is addictive!

Peace!

Big

subscribed, lookin good keep up the good work, by the time you go into flower you'll be teaching others

Well as you know the first grow not so good. Now onto second try. Bagseed that imo is totaly an unstable or outdoor strain possibly? I don't know. Any way started out good, mix to hard so they stunted and of course I over watered them. Can you say water stress.

Transplanted them in a 40/30/30 soil mix. Organic Pro Mix, Black Gold organic whitch is mostly SPM with EWC for a .05/0/0 NPK, and perlite. When I transplanted them I also removed some of the old dirt exposing some roots, but the dirt was so hard, I needed to get it of them so they could breath. Watered them with a 0/0/2 NPK for stress and added a cal/mag additive because of r/o water. They started to perk up pretty quick. Waited till pots light to lift and watered with what I think was a good mix of salts(food) at 1/4 strength. New growth coming and no water stress.

The reason I say the seeds are unstable is because one of the plants has already showed his sex at 28 days and a 18/6 light cycle? He is pick 1 and if you look at the center of the pic you will see a dark spot, that is his nut bag. No kiddin. My cam wont get up that close but you can see the little grapes forming. WTF? lol. They look like little Bonsai Trees. Tell me what you think? You can see the new growth in the pics.


Have been learning allot from this thread and IMO you might want to check it out. Keep an open mind though and you will see that what is taught makes sense.

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/277820-noob-advice.html

I think I will just keep this thread going instead of starting a new one. I will keep updating what happens.

Keep Em Green.

Big

so its day 33. The girls are still alive and bushy as hell. They already have 4 nodes and I think I will top them this week end and see what happens.

Going to change things up a little and dump the three part nutes and try and apply the techniques that I have learned by following the thread I posted earlier. Next feeding is going to consist of the secret tonic he spoke of in his grow journal. It will consist of molasses, H2O2, and Shultzs 10/15/10. In his journal he uses Jack's Classics brand but This is going to have to work for now.

Heres a Link. You should check it out. He is doing some pretty cool things and who knows you might learn something. If you have not read his noobie thread, you definitely are missing out. The things he teaches make sense. But that's just my opinion.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/284736-goin-loco-first-colorado-medical.html

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/277820-noob-advice.html

I also wanted to turn you guys on to a grow that took place a couple of years ago and he writes about his usage of H2O2 in his grow succesfuly and has the picks to back it up. Its a good read so check it out.

https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/72698-1st-grow-30-days-cfl.html


Well enough of the !kiss-assGot some picks so check it out. Hopefully I can gettem to grow up a little with my new found knowledge.

Peace

Big

Sorry the pics suck, and so does my camera.

bigman4270 said:

so its day 33. The girls are still alive and bushy as hell. They already have 4 nodes and I think I will top them this week end and see what happens.

Going to change things up a little and dump the three part nutes and try and apply the techniques that I have learned by following the thread I posted earlier. Next feeding is going to consist of the secret tonic he spoke of in his grow journal. It will consist of molasses, H2O2, and Shultzs 10/15/10. In his journal he uses Jack's Classics brand but This is going to have to work for now.

Heres a Link. You should check it out. He is doing some pretty cool things and who knows you might learn something. If you have not read his noobie thread, you definitely are missing out. The things he teaches make sense. But that's just my opinion.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/284736-goin-loco-first-colorado-medical.html

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/277820-noob-advice.html

I also wanted to turn you guys on to a grow that took place a couple of years ago and he writes about his usage of H2O2 in his grow succesfuly and has the picks to back it up. Its a good read so check it out.

https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/72698-1st-grow-30-days-cfl.html


Well enough of the !kiss-assGot some picks so check it out. Hopefully I can gettem to grow up a little with my new found knowledge.

Peace

Big

Sorry the pics suck, and so does my camera.

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Be sure to mix it up (well shaken) I use Hot tap water to make sure everything is dissolved and then let it set (uncapped/open) for at least 24 hours before you feed/water

still waiting to hear your input on the final answer