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min0r

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purple! if anyone has any idea what the yellow tips are please let me know. do i need to up my PPMs?
edit - i think it could be because my light is REALLY close, because i'm lacking space height wise, they're barely an inch away from the light. gonna figure out a way to heighten it.
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Getgrowingson

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purple! if anyone has any idea what the yellow tips are please let me know. do i need to up my PPMs?
edit - i think it could be because my light is REALLY close, because i'm lacking space height wise, they're barely an inch away from the light. gonna figure out a way to heighten it.
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Back off the ppms a bit that is classic beginning of nute burn. Think you found what we call the perfect burn or the max ppm. Back off a hundo or two ppm and your in th groove
 

min0r

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Back off the ppms a bit that is classic beginning of nute burn. Think you found what we call the perfect burn or the max ppm. Back off a hundo or two ppm and your in th groove
really??? i've been using this ratio -
Jacks 321 @ 6grams/5gal
Cal-nit @ 4grams/5gal
epsom salt @ 2gram/5gal
orca @ .5tsp/5gal
consistently at 425-450 pms for the past month, and i haven't gotten nute burn until now. that's odd.
it's also only on that cola, nowhere else has purpling/yellow tips.
i really wanna say it's because of how close the light is, i still lifted it quite a bit. maybe i'll see improvement. lights go on @ 10 tonight.
 

HonestGenetics420

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really??? i've been using this ratio -
Jacks 321 @ 6grams/5gal
Cal-nit @ 4grams/5gal
epsom salt @ 2gram/5gal
orca @ .5tsp/5gal
consistently at 425-450 pms for the past month, and i haven't gotten nute burn until now. that's odd.
it's also only on that cola, nowhere else has purpling/yellow tips.
i really wanna say it's because of how close the light is, i still lifted it quite a bit. maybe i'll see improvement. lights go on @ 10 tonight.
What week are you? Yellowing tips can mean a few different things. Based on your ppm I’d say you’re far from the max you could hit them with. Those strains can typically handle pretty hardcore feedings before hitting nute burn. If you’re seeing yellowing tips it could be nutrition being diverted to the flowers because of a lack of nitrogen. It could be burning from being too close to the light, however that’s not normally an issue with LED and if I remember right that’s what you’re using? It could be a sign of using too much calcium, you normally cut your calcium input in half around week four of flower and then bump up your magnesium. Or as getgro said it could be a sign over over feeding, however I doubt that from your ppm report.
Also, around week 5 on an organic diet it’s normal to start seeing leaves change colors and take on some yellowing, when you start the flush at the end you’ll often see cannabis leaves take on fall colors too :)
 

min0r

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What week are you? Yellowing tips can mean a few different things. Based on your ppm I’d say you’re far from the max you could hit them with. Those strains can typically handle pretty hardcore feedings before hitting nute burn. If you’re seeing yellowing tips it could be nutrition being diverted to the flowers because of a lack of nitrogen. It could be burning from being too close to the light, however that’s not normally an issue with LED and if I remember right that’s what you’re using? It could be a sign of using too much calcium, you normally cut your calcium input in half around week four of flower and then bump up your magnesium. Or as getgro said it could be a sign over over feeding, however I doubt that from your ppm report.
Also, around week 5 on an organic diet it’s normal to start seeing leaves change colors and take on some yellowing, when you start the flush at the end you’ll often see cannabis leaves take on fall colors too :)
4 weeks and a day since i flipped. - so i'm thinking i need to cut my calcium down.
i'm only seeing the yellow tips on one this one cola that was really close to the light, though. which what makes me want to think that it's too close to the light. i'm gonna do process of elimination here; first gonna see how moving the light effects them tomorrow morning, see if it worsens. then tomorrow/the next day i'm doing a reservoir change; i'll cut down my cal input in half & up the mag by a gram or so.
Thanks for the help :)
 

min0r

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plants seem to enjoy the new ratio, nothing has worsened so i think i'm good.
Both of those lines purple pretty reliably. CFS usually gets the “sunset” effect around week 6-7 and goes from green to purple, green phenos at finish in that line are pretty uncommon. And Purple Frosting shows signs of color at a few different stages but also nearly always finishes purple.
Don’t take your Purple Punch flower experience too much to heart btw. The pure line is kinda hard to explain. It’s a much better cut for making oil. As oil it’s crazy loud and exotic and some of the wildest flavor you’ve ever had. But as flower it’s got an amazing smell but a fairly muted taste. I always have considered the best use for Purple Punch as the way it breeds. People seem to forget that I was the first breeder to release Purple Punch lines and the first person with a Punch cross on IG. I was showing off photos of Blue Hurricane on IG back in July 2016 and had those seeds made in May 2016, which was nearly a year before In House, Clearwater, and Symbiotic had crosses made. I had my first small batch of Punch crosses out in late 2016 and remade them only one more time along with adding a few new crosses in April 2017, which was about the same time others started releasing their Punch lines. But no one was showing Punch hybrids before me. I realized after making Blue Hurricane that as a breeder she absolutely shined and made some of the most insane resin density, flavor, and yields in crosses. By herself she looks like she’d be more special but she’s kinda weak on THC and more of a terp plant. Like I said as oil she’s an absolute joy, as flower there’s a lot better stuff to be smoking, but in crosses she adds a serious wow factor to almost anything you could name. She’s a well rounded breeder.
That all being said I retired Purple Punch officially from my breeding catalogue and moved on to a few other things I’ve created which I feel are evolutions of Punch. Among them is Face Punch which I’m now moving onto my limited line Fantasia with. There’s also Punch Farmer aka Red Koolaid, and I’m pretty excited to show off some future work with her. And there’s a few others as well that I felt evolved and built on the original Punch line. I never plan on being a one trick pony, to me Punch in its pure form is a bit played out in crosses and so I’m working with what I feel are evolved forms of what she brought to the table. After all, the goal should always be to make good weed better ;)
You’ll enjoy both of the lines you’re growing right now, I’ve seen incredible things come from both, especially that CFS, total banger line :bigjoint:
i just picked up that purple punch, and i have to say that it smells very similar to my plant, it's got the same berry undertone to it. the buds pretty dank too, definitely the best i've picked up in a while, if you'd like i can post a pic.
 

growslut

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Oh man. 3/3 new plants a couple weeks into flower just hermied hard. 2 Banana Cocktails and 1 ScarJo. Not sure what went wrong this round? Same environment as the earlier plants who were more stable.

Got nervous and checked on the 1st round of plants. The Purple Frosting did drop 3 more ball sacs and also noticed that Banana Punchscicle started showing boy parts

The Honest gear is now about 50% stable/hermy
 
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growslut

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Here are some shots showing the plants. One Banana Cocktail is showing the 'bleaching' look towards the center of the bud sites--not sure if its a deficiency? (photos 2 & 3 are the same plant with and without blurple light). The leaves are from the lower part of ScarJo. Not sure if this is also a symptom of a deficiency or normal yellowing? The last Banana Cocktail also dropped nuts but looks completely healthy.
 

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Oh man. 3/3 new plants in week 2 just hermied hard. 2 Banana Cocktails and 1 ScarJo. Not sure what went wrong this round? Same environment as the earlier plants who were more stable.

Got nervous and checked on the 1st round of plants. The Purple Frosting did drop 3 more ball sacs and also noticed that Banana Punchscicle started showing boy parts

The Honest gear is now about 50% stable/hermy
ScarJo herms are pretty rare. Just curious, are you running entire packs? Or just a couple seeds of each? Banana Punchsicle is usually 10% herm/intersex, Purple Frosting about the same. But those are in wide numbers
 

HonestGenetics420

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Just running a couple of seeds of each. 2 Scarjo's (1 stable/1 herm) and 1 Banana Punchscicle.
I honestly never test under LED, I’ve noticed people who do seem to report higher herm rates than those under HID and I’m almost curious if the light spectrum makes a difference. I’ll need to start running both HID and LED to test things myself. That said, it might just be a bad luck on which seeds you popped or something with the environment. Either way do me a favor and email me, I like to take care of my customers if they have above average intersex rates on their pheno hunts
 

growslut

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Thanks Honest.

I've been trying to figure out what's causing the herms in my grows and after this round, my current theory is that its the blurple LED's that are causing/contributing to so many herms in my tent

I run blurple's next to qb's and its clear that the blurple's cause deficiencies sooner (especially calmag). And the last round started flower under the qb's--and didn't herm. These current plants are under blurples and 100% herm rate.

Anyone else run blurple's next to another light source and notice herms?
 

Bodyne

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Thanks Honest.

I've been trying to figure out what's causing the herms in my grows and after this round, my current theory is that its the blurple LED's that are causing/contributing to so many herms in my tent

I run blurple's next to qb's and its clear that the blurple's cause deficiencies sooner (especially calmag). And the last round started flower under the qb's--and didn't herm. These current plants are under blurples and 100% herm rate.

Anyone else run blurple's next to another light source and notice herms?
good on you to keep on lookin till you find the source of the problem. So many these days automatically say its the seeds, when it all actuality, its another reason as you found out. Not your fans and air on the plants, the light mix. NOT THE SEEDS, lol. Great job keeping an open mind and using your head to figure out the problem. jmho
FWIW, I can't hardly use my blurple on seedlings, Ive found out the hard way. Funny how no probs with cfls, or even HID's, but the blurple or whiter leds just affect them differently.
 

HonestGenetics420

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Thanks Honest.

I've been trying to figure out what's causing the herms in my grows and after this round, my current theory is that its the blurple LED's that are causing/contributing to so many herms in my tent

I run blurple's next to qb's and its clear that the blurple's cause deficiencies sooner (especially calmag). And the last round started flower under the qb's--and didn't herm. These current plants are under blurples and 100% herm rate.

Anyone else run blurple's next to another light source and notice herms?
good on you to keep on lookin till you find the source of the problem. So many these days automatically say its the seeds, when it all actuality, its another reason as you found out. Not your fans and air on the plants, the light mix. NOT THE SEEDS, lol. Great job keeping an open mind and using your head to figure out the problem. jmho
FWIW, I can't hardly use my blurple on seedlings, Ive found out the hard way. Funny how no probs with cfls, or even HID's, but the blurple or whiter leds just affect them differently.
Yeah! I’ve been noticing growers on IG running not even necessarily my seeds under those bluple colored LED lights and they seem to always be reporting crazy intersex rates that I think are really high. Meanwhile under CMH and HID lights I see no outrageous herm rates on my gear I release but on the gear I don’t release it’s because the rates were too frequent under those settings. It makes me wonder if LED is yet another factor of stress that’s worth using to test for herm ratios, definitely food for thought
 
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