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shnkrmn

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I came from Sioux Falls in 17. It's been an adjustment lol. I'm still upset my sedums from my old house died here :(
I moved here in a uhaul with a trashcan full of tropical fish in the passenger seat. The move was a success until my aquarium sprang a leak a few months later. I sold my fish to the local fish store and feel like a sordid trafficker to this day.:roll:

Kind of surprised any sedum would die. They are immortal.
 

Minnegrowta

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Nice. I wouldn't mind hearing what he has to say. Always interested to hear other machinists ideas.
"I started with a 3d model my wife made using MatrixGold (which is a jewelry specific CAD suite) with the goal of making her some practice pieces to engrave on from stainless steel. I imported the model into Esprit CAM and laid out some turning toolpaths to get the rough shape from raw stock. I then spent about a day messing around with a few dynamic roughing strategies to get most of the shank material out of the way using a 6mm endmill. Then used a 3d surfacing toolpath to finish contour one side at a time using a 1/8" ball end mill. The surfacing isn't perfect, and I simply copied the toolpath 180 degrees to do the backside so any flaws are going to be on both sides in the same place: there's one visible at the blend to the flat signet top. After that's done, I run a cutoff that stops .075 from center resulting in the fully formed ring in the photo, hanging by a stub off the stock and able to be twisted off by hand and sanded flat to finish. The path that finishes the outside of the ring shank gouges into the stock and I was running out of time to test so I decided to cut one in brass, hoping to fix the toolpaths later. It's 34 minutes to cut one - insane for brass and probably stupid slow for steel as well but I'm very new to esprit and 3D contouring on a lathe so I don't know what I can get away with. The machine is a twin spindle twin turret CNC lathe with live tooling and a Y axis though really only one spindle and turret does anything. Could also be done on a VMC with a 4th axis easily." - machiner
 

Killaki

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"I started with a 3d model my wife made using MatrixGold (which is a jewelry specific CAD suite) with the goal of making her some practice pieces to engrave on from stainless steel. I imported the model into Esprit CAM and laid out some turning toolpaths to get the rough shape from raw stock. I then spent about a day messing around with a few dynamic roughing strategies to get most of the shank material out of the way using a 6mm endmill. Then used a 3d surfacing toolpath to finish contour one side at a time using a 1/8" ball end mill. The surfacing isn't perfect, and I simply copied the toolpath 180 degrees to do the backside so any flaws are going to be on both sides in the same place: there's one visible at the blend to the flat signet top. After that's done, I run a cutoff that stops .075 from center resulting in the fully formed ring in the photo, hanging by a stub off the stock and able to be twisted off by hand and sanded flat to finish. The path that finishes the outside of the ring shank gouges into the stock and I was running out of time to test so I decided to cut one in brass, hoping to fix the toolpaths later. It's 34 minutes to cut one - insane for brass and probably stupid slow for steel as well but I'm very new to esprit and 3D contouring on a lathe so I don't know what I can get away with. The machine is a twin spindle twin turret CNC lathe with live tooling and a Y axis though really only one spindle and turret does anything. Could also be done on a VMC with a 4th axis easily." - machiner
Yeah figured this is exactly how this would shake out, it's the hubby haha. No hate though, my wife always wants me to make her things. I noticed the chatter on some of the surfaces but looks pretty good for a prototype. Brass being so soft, almost gummy(not as bad as copper), it can help using endmills with fewer flutes to get a better finish, but slow is pretty normal comparatively in my experience. I sort of assumed if it was all on a lathe you'd need live tooling but yeah I see what you mean doing all the work on one side and parting off there. I don't normally run lathes but my mind has some neat ideas for a second and third op in soft jaws on a mill haha. Feel free to pm me about machining, hunting, fishing or cannabis. -some guy ;)
 

Minnegrowta

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Yeah figured this is exactly how this would shake out, it's the hubby haha. No hate though, my wife always wants me to make her things. I noticed the chatter on some of the surfaces but looks pretty good for a prototype. Brass being so soft, almost gummy(not as bad as copper), it can help using endmills with fewer flutes to get a better finish, but slow is pretty normal comparatively in my experience. I sort of assumed if it was all on a lathe you'd need live tooling but yeah I see what you mean doing all the work on one side and parting off there. I don't normally run lathes but my mind has some neat ideas for a second and third op in soft jaws on a mill haha. Feel free to pm me about machining, hunting, fishing or cannabis. -some guy ;)
Sometimes I can get him to do things for me!
 

Minnegrowta

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Yeah figured this is exactly how this would shake out, it's the hubby haha. No hate though, my wife always wants me to make her things. I noticed the chatter on some of the surfaces but looks pretty good for a prototype. Brass being so soft, almost gummy(not as bad as copper), it can help using endmills with fewer flutes to get a better finish, but slow is pretty normal comparatively in my experience. I sort of assumed if it was all on a lathe you'd need live tooling but yeah I see what you mean doing all the work on one side and parting off there. I don't normally run lathes but my mind has some neat ideas for a second and third op in soft jaws on a mill haha. Feel free to pm me about machining, hunting, fishing or cannabis. -some guy ;)
He said this morning before leaving that it's not chatter, it's "it's faceting", something about how he made the tool path and then he went on a tangent about how much memory the machines have and that this kind of operation uses it up.
 

Pungolian

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WOW this storm is VIOLENT

I'm watching the girls with fear!!
We have had them every single day this week. over an inch today alone yesterday and a lot over the last two weeks. Place is going to look like a insect farm im afraid! Just measured my outside girls , starting to get difficult to measure, lol. Red pot plant is currently at 95” and grey pot clone is at 85”. I’ve personally never had any plants this size outside (or anywhere). im concerned with flowering season almost upon us should i try and support the limbs some way. i was thinking about tieing them individually back to the main stalk? What sayith you gurus? And thank you.
 

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Minnegrowta

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We have had them every single day this week. over an inch today alone yesterday and a lot over the last two weeks. Place is going to look like a insect farm im afraid! Just measured my outside girls , starting to get difficult to measure, lol. Red pot plant is currently at 95” and grey pot clone is at 85”. I’ve personally never had any plants this size outside (or anywhere). im concerned with flowering season almost upon us should i try and support the limbs some way. i was thinking about tieing them individually back to the main stalk? What sayith you gurus? And thank you.
It's crazy how yours look like trees and mine look like shrubs.
 

SmichiganOG

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We have had them every single day this week. over an inch today alone yesterday and a lot over the last two weeks. Place is going to look like a insect farm im afraid! Just measured my outside girls , starting to get difficult to measure, lol. Red pot plant is currently at 95” and grey pot clone is at 85”. I’ve personally never had any plants this size outside (or anywhere). im concerned with flowering season almost upon us should i try and support the limbs some way. i was thinking about tieing them individually back to the main stalk? What sayith you gurus? And thank you.
IMO that won't work. Branches twist from the weight of the bud. I grew some critical once that snapped easily (I no longer grow any critical), but some strains aren't so brittle. I use farm fencing supported by t-posts driven into the ground for big plants. Well-supported netting works but is a pain. I'm no guru but those are my thoughts. And wow! Just noticed they're in pots. Good luck with that.
 
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Minnegrowta

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I like plants a little smaller actually. It's so much work to spray the monsters.
I was just thinking, that next year I might just grow one. I really wanted another garden bed this year but I didn't get that because machiner man claimed he needed to conserve his energy to rebuild the deck, or something, idk. Deck still broke af. I don't know what I'm doing so I'm just letting them do their thing and trying to keep them happy and healthy. I have watched a lot of outdoor growing threads where people clip the plant and it just writhes in visible agony lol, how do you keep them smaller and happy?

Clearly they have been reaching for the late afternoon sun. It makes me feel things so I want to give next years plant(s) a more sunny bed.
 

Pungolian

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IMO that won't work. Branches twist from the weight of the bud. I grew some critical once that snapped easily (I no longer grow any critical), but some strains aren't so brittle. I use farm fencing supported by t-posts driven into the ground for big plants. Well-supported netting works but is a pain. I'm no guru but those are my thoughts. And wow! Just noticed they're in pots. Good luck with that.
Hahaha thank you. Kind of info I need. i grew same strain indoors and had some similar issues so thats why i am concerned. The fact they are on my deck makes it a little more difficult but ill come up with something. Thank you
 

SmichiganOG

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Hahaha thank you. Kind of info I need. i grew same strain indoors and had some similar issues so thats why i am concerned. The fact they are on my deck makes it a little more difficult but ill come up with something. Thank you
If the wind hasn't blown those monsters over yet it might. Might be good to anchor them down one way or another. Great looking plants!
 

SmichiganOG

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I was just thinking, that next year I might just grow one. I really wanted another garden bed this year but I didn't get that because machiner man claimed he needed to conserve his energy to rebuild the deck, or something, idk. Deck still broke af. I don't know what I'm doing so I'm just letting them do their thing and trying to keep them happy and healthy. I have watched a lot of outdoor growing threads where people clip the plant and it just writhes in visible agony lol, how do you keep them smaller and happy?

Clearly they have been reaching for the late afternoon sun. It makes me feel things so I want to give next years plant(s) a more sunny bed.
He won't even loan you the tools? It's an era of equal rights for wimminz you know! Just sayin'. </evilsnicker>
 
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Killaki

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He said this morning before leaving that it's not chatter, it's "it's faceting", something about how he made the tool path and then he went on a tangent about how much memory the machines have and that this kind of operation uses it up.
Yeah I see what he's saying, overlapping tool marks in the tool path leaving a funky finish. I too also have some problems with machine memory space so I feel his pain haha.
 
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