How can I lose 60 lbs without working out?

medicaloutlaw said:

Grilled chicken (white meat) or fish with veggie sides preferably fresh uncanned with only water to drink. Do it for ONE month. If you dont lose 15-20% of your overall weight you are cheating.

I did the chicken, seafood and fish with baked potatoes and fresh veggies no seasonings no butter no bread in 2009 (45 yrs old). I bought an indoor grill and only cooked for myself. Cost averaged $5 per meal. Drank only water. Went from 235 to 172 in 6 weeks and could see abs again! Had a couple of my clients pull me close and ask if I had (serious health issues or cancer) the weight loss was so dramatic.

Unfortunately, when I stopped I put it back on and a little more over the next year eating drive-thru food and drinking a 2 liter of Pepsi a day.

The diet does work though and its better than going vegetarian!

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I'd just have to go easy on the unhealthy stuff so the diet wouldn't be as painful, . Then it might be easier to stick with it. And there's some seriously healthy stoners here that make some of that rabbit food look really good in the Food thread,

Over the long term, you will lose weight if the number of calories that you expend exceeds the calories that you take in. That's simple physics.

Weight loss is not consistent, you will tend to lose weight in "fits and starts" because you may lose weight for a few days in a row, then add some, then have a big drop, etc. That's just how our body has learned to handle life for the last 4.3 or so million years. It's only in the past, at best 200 years, the vast majority of humans didn't undergo repeated instances of lack of food so our bodies have spent a lot of time drawing on body fat when there wasn't enough food.

Can you lose 60 pounds without working out? Absolutely. It will take far longer than if you were to exercise but, sure you can lose 60 pounds. Males have will drop weight more quickly than women, youngsters more than seniors, and if you're obese or morbidly obese, you can do a higher % weight drop more easily than if you're just obese or overweight. I'm using those terms with their clinical meanings because I'm very familiar with this process, having lost over about 130 pounds the first time and, as of this morning, having lost 62.3 pounds in the 171 days since I started losing weight on 7/20/22.

If you don't exercise, you will also lose more muscle mass than you might want to. If you've got 60 pounds to lose it's highly likely that you didn't exercise much previously and right now just might be a good opportunity to change that behavior.

Toka416 said:

Was gettting fat myself over the covid period. Reducing meal size was the key to my getting back to normal and not feeling overweight. Didnt exercise anymore than taking care of my kids. Normal chore stuff. Pretty obvious to me that i was stuffing my face with way too much food. Everyday. Is something you cant ignore, is the obvious answer. Your eating too much food. I can eat whatever i want, but i naturally eat a balanced diet some good some crap, just dont overdo it and im good. Exercise is also helpful but the true answer is to not over eat. Is too easy to over do it. Your stomach will adjust to the size it should be. You will start to feel full on less food and is prob where it should be imo. At first you will feel hungry but trust your not in need and wont die. Will be good for you in the long run. Will be the easiest weight you ever lost if you can control your intake.

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Very true words. All of them.

You can't gain weight if you don't put it in your mouth. That's not easy - been there done that. Doing it now, in fact. 60 pounds down in 170 days. I started a very low calorie diet on 7/20/22 and, within a day or two, didn't feel hungry. I got really hungry a couple of weeks ago but that's about it. Our bodies are used to functioning in times of very little or no food. That was SOP for the first 4.x million years or so — it's only in the past, maybe, 100 years that the human race didn't spend a huge amount of its time getting food.

MissinThe90’sStrains said:

I’ve often heard the phrases : “You can’t outrun a bad diet” and “A 6 pack is made in the kitchen, not the gym” and am starting to believe them. I gained 45 pounds quickly in college - stoner roommates, pizza/wings/cheesesteak/mozzarella stick/fried twinkies and more - offered delivery until 4 am most nights, and we had a pizza place right outside the dorm entrance. I had my highschool athlete appetite, and new sedentary lifestyle of smoking and playing video games. Supplement with plenty of vitamin beer, and it got out of hand, fast. I was 6’5” and got up to 275#. I wound up losing it all a few years later by working in the kitchen and learning how to cook. I cut out fast food, alcohol, and sugar, and just cooked at home. I never weighed or portioned any food, never “dieted”, never got a gym membership. Just staying active and eating better, the weight came off. I’ve been steady between 210-215# for about a decade now. I can wear all of my highschool clothes (I’m actually a pant size smaller than I was in highschool). My blood sugar also returned to normal after having swings, and fears of pre-diabetes. My wife lost 30 pounds too, not doing shit but eating what I cooked and giving up the processed junk.

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That's a win-win. You've added years to your life expectancy and you've also vastly improved the quality of your life. A couple of things that will click for you. Think back to how you would tie/put on your shoes before you lost weight. You'd have to kick our you knees so that you could bend over and tie your laces. Once the weight goes, you just lean over and tie them. Another thing - after the weight goes, you can cross your legs. That was a big deal for me. After being on my diet for a while, I was sitting, talking to someone and I realized that, for the first time in…decades(?) I could cross my legs. Little things but those little things mean big things.

Congrats on weight loss. And for the wife. You're earning back quality years.

The biggest thing I noticed was that my back pain got better. Working on my feet for long days was hell on my back and knees. Theyre still pretty shot, but I’m glad I didn’t carry that weight for decades. Weed helps the back pain. Now I just have to find a way to lower this stress level, and I might live long enough to yell at the kids that accidentally step on my lawn.

MissinThe90’sStrains said:

The biggest thing I noticed was that my back pain got better. Working on my feet for long days was hell on my back and knees. Theyre still pretty shot, but I’m glad I didn’t carry that weight for decades. Weed helps the back pain. Now I just have to find a way to lower this stress level, and I might live long enough to yell at the kids that accidentally step on my lawn.

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Middle aged males tend to accumulate weight around the belly and that can lead to a medical condition called "metabolic syndrome" which takes its toll slowly but is a deadly combo. In addition to having to haul around all of the extra mass, the accumulated fat can really throw off your posture and that can lead to back and, perhaps, knee problems.

"live long enough to yell at the kids that accidentally step on my lawn." - that's the spirit! Pat yourself on the back for dropping the poundage. And now that you're at a comfortable weight, you can cross that issue off the list of things that aggravate you and then start getting rid of the other things that are stressors.

Seeing that this is RIU (home of the "pictures or it didn't happen" ), I've attached a photo of me in Costco in 2013±, after my first weight loss trip. I'm holding about 100 pounds of pork loin and that's what I was carrying around with me for the last two of years of my obesity.

When you do a big weight loss like that and then go out and do some activity, like a hike, for example, grab a back pack and put some weight in it and then go for your hike. It's a really good way to remind yourself what you've accomplished. Pro tip - a cinder block weighs 44 pounds.





Loving the scale this AM - another pound gone. That's 5.3 pounds in 7 days (one day was down 1.3 then up 1.3 the next) so I'm 1.7 pounds from "Onederland", which is what you celebrate on MyFitnessPal.com when you break down through a hundred pound level. I've logged on to MFP every day for over 4,400 days. It's a great site to track calories.

Heavysmoker86 said:

Currently 314. Trying to get to 250

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Fasting. I love fasting. You could do intermittent fasting or you could do O.M.A.D (one meal a day). I currently fast for 4 days in a row to get maximum benefits = no food. Just water.

xxMissxx said:

Fasting. I love fasting. You could do intermittent fasting or you could do O.M.A.D (one meal a day). I currently fast for 4 days in a row to get maximum benefits = no food. Just water.

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No food, that's tough. Not taking in any nutrition is very hard on the body. As a minimum, take a multivitamin.
Why so drastic a diet?

One meal a day - at least that's some food and, let's hope, 1gm protein per kg of body mass which will help to reduce loss of muscle mass.

Typically, 25% of your weight loss will be muscle mass so, you should take in protein intake and exercise to retain muscle. I'm at 1k cals/day and was fighting to get enough protein. Last week I added protein powder and that's got me back to the 100gm level for protein.

You could cut off your leg. Average human leg is around 26lbs. You'd be halfway there

Between June, 2022 and now, I lost about 70 pounds. Went from 302 to 230-ish. Pretty much did it all by just a fuck load of walking. First month, 5 miles a day. After 3 months, around 13 miles a day. Now that winter's here, it's too cold to do much walking outside so I started doing daily pushups. It's too early to really gauge how much impact that's having yet, though. Didn't want to be seriously neurotic about losing weight, so I've put minimal thought into what I eat. I figured that with a brute force approach, I could pretty much eat whatever the hell I wanted.

Fangthane said:

Between June, 2022 and now, I lost about 70 pounds. Went from 302 to 230-ish. Pretty much did it all by just a fuck load of walking. First month, 5 miles a day. After 3 months, around 13 miles a day. Now that winter's here, it's too cold to do much walking outside so I started doing daily pushups. It's too early to really gauge how much impact that's having yet, though. Didn't want to be seriously neurotic about losing weight, so I've put minimal thought into what I eat. I figured that with a brute force approach, I could pretty much eat whatever the hell I wanted.

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That's great - 70 pounds is a great win. Pretty weird feeling to think that ¼ of your body weight is just…gone.

13 miles - a half marathon is 13.1 and you were doing one of those every day. Wow.

A couple of milestones - a big tell for me was when I was sitting in a chair and I realized that I had crossed my legs. It's something I hadn't done in a long time. Another "aha moment" is when I put my shoes on. Until I lost the weight, I had to push my knee out so that I could reach my shoe. Once the weight comes off, you just bend down and put them on like we did when we were kids.

Congratulations are order. Take a bow!

Delps8 said:

A couple of milestones - a big tell for me was when I was sitting in a chair and I realized that I had crossed my legs.

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Hah! That's actually one I'd noticed fairly recently. If I'd be sitting down while putting my shoes on, I'd have to reach down and grab my leg to pull it up on my knee. Now, I just casually cross them without needing to grab my ankle and heave. I'd lost over 40 pounds before I could be convinced that there was a noticeable difference. I tend to be pretty critical of me. The whole '1/4 of my mass' thing is a framing I'd actually used with myself. I did consider that a milestone. My ultimate goal is 1/3. At only 5'7", 200 would still make me a big boy, but it sounds great to me. Haven't been at or below 200 since I was like 21. I'd been a chainsmoking, sedentary lardass for a good 15 years before I just kinda said 'enough is enough' one day. Didn't really think I'd stick with the whole walking thing, but it seemed to be incorporated into my current zeitgeist pretty quickly. Plenty of days I just wanted to sit around and not have to sweat through 60+ laps around my fence line, but I just felt really weird not doing it. Pretty sure I'm gonna gain some weight over winter since I'm not going out there when it's below 40, but at least I've shown myself that I absolutely can do it. Did it once, should be easy to pick back up again when the weather is good again. Thanks for the kind words. Always hated compliments, but have a feeling I could use some these days.

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Hah! That's actually one I'd noticed fairly recently. If I'd be sitting down while putting my shoes on, I'd have to reach down and grab my leg to pull it up on my knee. Now, I just casually cross them without needing to grab my ankle and heave. I'd lost over 40 pounds before I could be convinced that there was a noticeable difference. I tend to be pretty critical of me. The whole '1/4 of my mass' thing is a framing I'd actually used with myself. I did consider that a milestone. My ultimate goal is 1/3. At only 5'7", 200 would still make me a big boy, but it sounds great to me. Haven't been at or below 200 since I was like 21. I'd been a chainsmoking, sedentary lardass for a good 15 years before I just kinda said 'enough is enough' one day. Didn't really think I'd stick with the whole walking thing, but it seemed to be incorporated into my current zeitgeist pretty quickly. Plenty of days I just wanted to sit around and not have to sweat through 60+ laps around my fence line, but I just felt really weird not doing it. Pretty sure I'm gonna gain some weight over winter since I'm not going out there when it's below 40, but at least I've shown myself that I absolutely can do it. Did it once, should be easy to pick back up again when the weather is good again. Thanks for the kind words. Always hated compliments, but have a feeling I could use some these days.

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Heh, you've earned it. Very few people are able to do what you've done.

"I'd lost over 40 pounds before I could be convinced that there was a noticeable difference." - goes with the "Always hated compliments" and "I tend to be pretty critical of me." The weight gain did not happen for no reason.

"My ultimate goal is 1/3. At only 5'7", 200 would still make me a big boy, but it sounds great to me. Haven't been at or below 200 since I was like 21."
20'ish years later — sounds like it's time to do it again.

"but at least I've shown myself that I absolutely can do it." - yup. Notch on the desk time. Heh, you also quit smoking (same here). That's a bitch. For me it was the "hand to mouth" thing. I quit in early 1985 and am very glad I did.

"it's below 40," - and I don't like it when it dips into the 50's!
You're in MN, AK? -40's a bitch. I went to college in New Brunswick, Canada and we hit the - teens a few times a year but -40, yikes. It might be a fact of significant weight loss that we feel the cold more after the loss. I know that, as we age, we lose the layer of fat under our skin but, it might be that significant weight loss, which includes loss of "brown" fat makes it harder for us to regulate temps//makes us more susceptible to cold temps. We keep the heat at 68° and I have to wear three layers and use a light comforter on the bed. Something to keep in mind if you decide to play Nanuk of the North - don't freeze your 'nads off, says the guy from SoCal to the guy who lives in South North Pole.



You might want to get in touch with this guy:

J. Graham Thomas, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor (Research)
Weight Control & Diabetes Research Center
The Miriam Hospital & Brown Medical School
196 Richmond Street
Providence RI 02903
Phone: 401-793-8154

(I don't have an email addy for him.)

I don't now how I found him but he works for Brown University. They're sponsoring his research and they send out a survey every year to folks who have lost a lot of weight. I'll admit that I didn't answer for a few years when I was obese again but I realize I should have. Maybe filling out the survey will help someone at some time.

Delps8 said:

Heh, you also quit smoking (same here). That's a bitch. For me it was the "hand to mouth" thing. I quit in early 1985 and am very glad I did.

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Well, I managed to quit the cancer sticks for 2 full months, my vape working wonders. Then the main reason I'd said 'enough is enough', a girl of course, pulled some shenanigans and I started smoking again. She gave me the kinda hope that got me to get up off my ass and try something different; then she took it away and pissed me off enough to stay focused on the task. So all's well that ends well, I guess. This time around, having a hell of a time trying to drop the cigs again. Now that I'm up to 1000 pushups a week, they're definitely working against me. I do 200 a day, M-F, in sets of 25. Once I get up to around 16 or so, I'm definitely getting winded. Gotta knock this shit off again.

I'm in northern AZ. I didn't mean it gets to -40 here; meant that I don't walk if it's not at least 40 outside. I actually love cold weather, but I found out the hard way that I'm apparently too far gone to be walking a ton of miles in the cold. Once the weather started turning colder, my various muscle aches got MUCH worse. I'm the kinda guy who walks around in shorts and a sleeveless T whether it's 95 or 15, but simultaneously being freezing and sweating just takes a quick toll on me. With rain/snow twice a week lately, the sand is also too soupy and slippery. I've always run hot, so under normal circumstances I don't even wear a jacket until it gets down to 10 or so. But exercise + cold seems to be a no-go for this old whale carcass.