How can I ph down my water Organically?

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ziggywiggy56

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My tap water is definitely above 7 maybe even 8+

How can I bring this down without killing the hardworkers in my soil?
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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Just add compost and other raw organic material to the soil. The water you give doesn’t set ph the soil itself does. No need to adjust it. You need a decent quality probe to find the ph of of a soil mix at the root zone but you really don’t even need one unless you are building up your own mix.
 
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ziggywiggy56

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Richard Drysift said:
Just add compost and other raw organic material to the soil. The water you give doesn’t set ph the soil itself does. No need to adjust it. You need a decent quality probe to find the ph of of a soil mix at the root zone but you really don’t even need one unless you are building up your own mix.
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I thought of that so i bought some EWCasting for and I was thinking, should I add sulfur?(epsoma soil acidifier) It’s derived from gypsum and natural sulfur or something

I’m also switching to promix (90% peat)next grow which I hear will turn acidic,(I already bought Epsoma lime) Will I still need to add sulfur? Or will compost take care of all of this since my ph is Already alkaline
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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If you are using a bagged mix adjust nothing. Add compost and/or fertilizer. When you go to recycle the soil for another run amend with more compost and minerals like D-lime and garden gypsum along with whatever inputs you decide on. I’ve never added sulphur myself. Putting in spikes will also lower the ph. Don’t try to adjust ph in soil unless you know for sure it is no longer balanced.
 
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CTGrown203

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PadawanWarrior said:
If you want to lower the water pH citric acid works. Also adding organic material will help lower the soil pH like Drysift said.
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Only listen to this guy ^ citric acid is best. I’ve gone thru this for a while trying to get an answer my tap water is ph’d at 7.5 u can’t water with that no soil on earth will buffer that down to under 7 just ain’t gonna happen use citric acid dirt cheap
 
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smokin away

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My tap water from a public water system is at least 8pH due to the fact it's spring water in this location. Rain always works better but had a dry spring. I read a YT on organics and it said white vinegar is also an organic acidifier. Been using a new product with great results that came with very detailed directions about water pH and amount. Check it out as it seems to cuddle about 6.7-8 for me:
https://shop.kindsoil.com/products/kind-soil-5lb-bag :leaf:
 
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CTGrown203

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ziggywiggy56 said:
I thought of that so i bought some EWCasting for and I was thinking, should I add sulfur?(epsoma soil acidifier) It’s derived from gypsum and natural sulfur or something

I’m also switching to promix (90% peat)next grow which I hear will turn acidic,(I already bought Epsoma lime) Will I still need to add sulfur? Or will compost take care of all of this since my ph is Already alkaline
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Curious why would pro-mix turn acidic ?
 
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CTGrown203

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Richard Drysift said:
Just add compost and other raw organic material to the soil. The water you give doesn’t set ph the soil itself does. No need to adjust it. You need a decent quality probe to find the ph of of a soil mix at the root zone but you really don’t even need one unless you are building up your own mix.
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If ur ph out of the tap is high above 7 ur soil will not buffer that properly
 
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ziggywiggy56

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CTGrown203 said:
Curious why would pro-mix turn acidic ?
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Apparently peat moss breaks down fast turning it acidic. The pack already comes preamended with dolomite so it makes sense to me.
CTGrown203 said:
If ur ph out of the tap is high above 7 ur soil will not buffer that properly
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I was thinking that, even kind soil company says u have to use citric acid on your water or their soil won’t work. I guess I’ll buy some citric acid
 
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CTGrown203

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I got a test going on at the moment , 2 Barney’s farm seeds one I’m watering with 7.5-8 ph tap
The other with the proper filtered 6.5 and there’s just no comparison the 7-8 looks like a mutant compared to the proper
 
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ziggywiggy56

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CTGrown203 said:
I got a test going on at the moment , 2 Barney’s farm seeds one I’m watering with 7.5-8 ph tap
The other with the proper filtered 6.5 and there’s just no comparison the 7-8 looks like a mutant compared to the proper
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What kind of soil are you using?
 
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CTGrown203

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The Malibu’s best compost is just unmatched it would be hard to even make a compost this good u deff cannot buy better , only company on the planet to use dairy cows
 
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ziggywiggy56

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CTGrown203 said:
I got a test going on at the moment , 2 Barney’s farm seeds one I’m watering with 7.5-8 ph tap
The other with the proper filtered 6.5 and there’s just no comparison the 7-8 looks like a mutant compared to the proper
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When u get a chance can u send pics, are they in the same environment?
And how do you adjust your water?
Do you use citric acid?
 
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CTGrown203

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gotta wait for the lights for pics they turn on in a half hour so I got ya., yeah they’re literally touching each other , I usually fill up 5 gal buckets of carbon filtered water add a 1/2 of a 1/4teaspoon citric acid and let sit for acouple hour to stabilize and that’s it
 
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CTGrown203

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the first two are the same the filtered ph’d
The third I’ve tried extra cal/mag, a little Advanced nutrients big bud, but the plant just doesn’t seem to be absorbing anything properly.
Any advice for it ?
 
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NARDS

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Any update on how you manage the aciditiy? Everything I read points to the presence of phosphorous is good organic soil and its release manages acidity where other acids or related compounds are present but are snake oil if used excessively.
 
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