How difficult is hydro?

Anon Emaus · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
How do you lst with tie downs without medium to stick a bamboo stick in?

Also, for anyone interested, I buy top shelf pheno clones from a friend

Those lil command hooks and plant ties. Here's a pic

Niblixdark · Apr 15, 2016

Anon Emaus said:
Those lil command hooks and plant ties. Here's a pic

Humm ..

That's a pretty good idea for veggin

Anon Emaus · Apr 15, 2016

Works good, but you can only do it for a couple weeks until they get to big for the bucket lid surface area. That's when i install the net.

papa canna · Apr 15, 2016

Anon Emaus said:
Works good, but you can only do it for a couple weeks until they get to big for the bucket lid surface area. That's when i install the net.

Ive never fully understood the purpose of scrog. Is it just to support the weight? Wouldn't there be a simpler way to do that?

rkymtnman · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
Ive never fully understood the purpose of scrog. Is it just to support the weight? Wouldn't there be a simpler way to do that?

scrog is to get all bud sites on a flat plane. maximum coverage for your light.

papa canna · Apr 15, 2016

rkymtnman said:
scrog is to get all bud sites on a flat plane. maximum coverage for your light.

So it just gives you a point of reference to start bending?

Anon Emaus · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
So it just gives you a point of reference to start bending?

You bend the branches under the net and the net itself holds the branches horizontally. Allows light to all parts of the plant instead of just the top. Allows all side growth to become main top growth.

rkymtnman · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
So it just gives you a point of reference to start bending?

yeah, basically you try the weave the plant as it grows under the screen. get it close to filled up, flip to 12/12 and it should be wall to wall plant/bud sites.

papa canna · Apr 15, 2016

So you do that in veg? I thought the point of scrog was to allow the plant to go through the screen and trim under it. I have that mixed up?

Anon Emaus · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
So you do that in veg? I thought the point of scrog was to allow the plant to go through the screen and trim under it. I have that mixed up?

Yeah in veg and flower stretch. You do trim whats underneath the screen cuz it won't get light, so you have that right. But the whole point is to have all of the bud sites at the same height so they all get max light, so you tuck the branches under the net to stop them from growing up, when you do let them grow up they'll all be allowed up at the same time so they grow at the same height.

papa canna · Apr 15, 2016

Anon Emaus said:
Yeah in veg and flower stretch. You do trim whats underneath the screen cuz it won't get light, so you have that right. But the whole point is to have all of the bud sites at the same height so they all get max light, so you tuck the branches under the net to stop them from growing up, when you do let them grow up they'll all be allowed up at the same time so they grow at the same height.

So you remove the screen at some point? when would that be? after the stretch period of flower?

Anon Emaus · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
So you remove the screen at some point? when would that be? after the stretch period of flower?

Nah you just leave it on.

papa canna · Apr 15, 2016

Anon Emaus said:
Nah you just leave it on.

I would be interested in making one similar to what you have there. How high up do you want it? obviously thats subjective to the person. do you just make it as high as you want it for your canopy? or is there a suggested height?

Anon Emaus · Apr 15, 2016

papa canna said:
I would be interested in making one similar to what you have there. How high up do you want it? obviously thats subjective to the person. do you just make it as high as you want it for your canopy? or is there a suggested height?

I've seen anywhere from 4-12" suggested. In reality it depends on your own grow, such as growing medium, light, space available and such. Gotta kinda test it out yourself to find the right one, you can also do a two stage, one net at X" height and another one higher at X" of height. I personally prefer to start low, 4", that way you can begin training asap in my setup and speed up total time spent. At 4" i need to then either raise my net or build a second one to optimize because I am limited on space when I train, so it varies by the space you have and the time you plan to spend training.

papa canna · Apr 16, 2016

Anon Emaus said:
I've seen anywhere from 4-12" suggested. In reality it depends on your own grow, such as growing medium, light, space available and such. Gotta kinda test it out yourself to find the right one, you can also do a two stage, one net at X" height and another one higher at X" of height. I personally prefer to start low, 4", that way you can begin training asap in my setup and speed up total time spent. At 4" i need to then either raise my net or build a second one to optimize because I am limited on space when I train, so it varies by the space you have and the time you plan to spend training.

I dont fully understand. 4-12 inches in total plant growth? scroging a 4 inch plant? that would be super small

and all of this is just for the purpose of uniformity?

Niblixdark · Apr 16, 2016

papa canna said:
I dont fully understand. 4-12 inches in total plant growth? scroging a 4 inch plant? that would be super small and all of this is just for the purpose of uniformity?

When the plant grows shoots, you train them to grow through each of the net holes that are close by, but as evenly as possible, starting with the plant when it's small, it takes time but you are getting ALLOT of buds

Prepare for allot of training with this method.

Pros:

Less risky
Workload, less plants to water & deal with and or issues.
Yields

Cons:

Time, getting the canopy big enough to fill given area.
Crawling around like your in an old crawl space lol

Gregor Eisenhorn · Apr 16, 2016

Scrogging is the best method I have come across, super easy and you can get really creative witj making the net.

I suggest you fix the screen to the lid of your reservoir for easier maintenance.

And honestly go check out growweedasy as Anon suggested, they have everything there is to know about growing, all written to understand.

papa canna · Apr 16, 2016

Gregor Eisenhorn said:
Scrogging is the best method I have come across, super easy and you can get really creative witj making the net.

I suggest you fix the screen to the lid of your reservoir for easier maintenance.

And honestly go check out growweedasy as Anon suggested, they have everything there is to know about growing, all written to understand.

I've been there. Its where I started. but it lacked quite a bit of info for my DWC purposes.

Anon Emaus · Apr 16, 2016

papa canna said:
I dont fully understand. 4-12 inches in total plant growth? scroging a 4 inch plant? that would be super small and all of this is just for the purpose of uniformity?

I was refering to net height, in the pic i posted of my net it is sitting at 4".
This should help: http://www.growweedeasy.com/scrog-tutorial

Gregor Eisenhorn · Apr 16, 2016

Yeah man, hydro is easu once you get the hang of it. Evene if you don;t know much you still get the ropes of it during your first run (like me).

Im also drunk as fuuuck.

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