Thundakat85
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if vegans see an animal eat another animal they just blast em with some awesome D notes on the bass. . ."No vegan diet, NOT VEGAN POWERS!!"
How Do Vegans Feel About Animals That Eat Other Animals?
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RyanTheRhino
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hahahahahah free range CHICKEN its just marketing.
that's just a bunch of chickens in one large cage verse individuality caging them.
Free Range
Not Free range
that's just a bunch of chickens in one large cage verse individuality caging them.
Free Range
Not Free range
RyanTheRhino
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Actually humans began life as scavenger stealing the scraps when the predators where done eating. They learned later they could eat root, nuts, berries ect, but they never stopped eating meat..
Human brain development is related to the increase in omega fatty acid found with meats. So your ancestors ate enough meat to let you be stupid enough to say they were vegetarians on cyberspace.
d.s.m.
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I know. They kill and eat other animals. It's the natural order of things. Trophic level and all that.
They'd enslave and kill you if they found you tasty and were bright enough to pull it off.
d.s.m.
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It's been a bad day, and reading this right here is by far the best thing that's happened to me today. I salute you, Sir.
Johnnyorganic
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DEBUNKED!
Our ancestors lived in trees.
The brain did not begin enlarging until after said ancestors left the trees and started walking around on two legs about 200 million years ago.
The consumption of meat did not occur in our ancestors until about 2 million years ago, consistent with the discovery of fire.
RyanTheRhino
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well that your talking about chimps.
Really so why is a fact that our ancestors start eating meat 2.5 million years ago. some one needs to cross reference his wiki search
because they would hide in a tree and steal scraps and run back up the tree.
even better
"Our ancestors were carving meat some 800,000 years earlier than previously thought. Marks on fossilised animal bones found in Ethiopia indicate that early-human butchers were using stone tools as early as 3.4 million years ago.
Really so why is a fact that our ancestors start eating meat 2.5 million years ago. some one needs to cross reference his wiki search
because they would hide in a tree and steal scraps and run back up the tree.
even better
"Our ancestors were carving meat some 800,000 years earlier than previously thought. Marks on fossilised animal bones found in Ethiopia indicate that early-human butchers were using stone tools as early as 3.4 million years ago.
Johnnyorganic
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Actually I was going on previously held knowledge based on well-established paleontology.
Even if what you say is true, a discrepancy of 500,000 to 1.4 million years is insignificant because the brains began developing 200 MIILION years ago. When our ancestors left the trees and started walking around on two legs.
Our ancestors needed the fire to cook the meat so it would not kill them.
Just like now.
RyanTheRhino
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ha. so you believe our ancestors where around with dinosaurs.Actually I was going on previously held knowledge based on well-established paleontology.
Even if what you say is true, a discrepancy of 500,000 to 1.4 million years is insignificant because the brains began developing 200 MIILION years ago. When our ancestors left the trees and started walking around on two legs.
Our ancestors needed the fire to cook the meat so it would not kill them.
Just like now.
the earliest hominid evolved 4-5 million years ago
and was called "Ardipithicus ramidus"
and he certainly ate meat
Johnnyorganic
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Do it at your own risk.so i shouldn't be eating this steak raw?
oh, shit
Our systems have evolved to tolerate meat, so it's a gamble if you choose to eat it raw.
And anyone who thinks their big brains depend on meat should consider MY big brain, which has not benefited from the magical qualities of meat in over 15 years.
I consider my diet choice the same as when I discovered cannabis. Both decisions opened up entire new ways of thinking about the world I could have never considered otherwise.
Enjoy your diseased and decaying animal flesh.
Perhaps you should update your definition of ancestors.
See that tree back in the back there about 200 million years?the earliest hominid evolved 4-5 million years ago
and was called "Ardipithicus ramidus"
and he certainly ate meat
Those are our ancestors, too.
Are you absolutely sure Ardipithicus ramidus "certainly" ate meat as a primary means of nutrition, and was not primarily a forager/gatherer?
Are you even sure he was our ancestor and not the chimpanzee's?
Because the experts are not.
http://www.macroevolution.net/ardipithecus-ramidus.html
Evolution takes a long time, and discoveries change our preconceptions all the time.
But nothing you have showed has proved my original statement incorrect.
You better get back to Wiki on that, huh?
RyanTheRhino
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I was talking about what we call a hominid. but if you want to get technical then the we are related to every species that ever lived including plants .
Thundakat85
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Just doing my part sir.
huklburryfin
Active Member
ok your right, but our early ancestors diet definitely consisted mostly of plants. they might have been able to scavenge but until they learned to hunt meat couldnt have been very important in thier diet. however whatever amount they were able to scavenge must have helped their brain size increase which allowed them to hunt
i doubt australopithecines needed to cook meat before eating it. humans today have are more vulnerable to diseases and things which is why we have to cook meatOur ancestors needed the fire to cook the meat so it would not kill them.
Just like now.
moodster
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sounds like sumone discovered barbeques LOL