how does a plant know that it is dark?

freddiemoney said:
I agree fully with your feelings on the black light completely. He has put forward all sorts of wild ideas between this thread and his "Green Light Spectrum" thread based on three grows he has pulled off using this "technique". Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like he's even tried it any other way for comparison.

Here's a quote where he say that plants won't flower using only a blue light source:

"that does not tell me anything i know that but you can grow a plant with just blue light. im not saying do this but you can.the plant will veg. it does not need full spectrum light to grow right?but cut the light to 12/12 they still dont flower why? its dark the now its dark why they dont flower?"
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man you need two wake up bro and be open to new ideas. I have grown more than once with plenty of mistakes.I dont count those.I remember one time before I knew about Ph,my soil was not right,I got 10 out of 10 males from regular seed,NO BULL.but they are einsteins like you who say no way.they xx and xy male or female from start 50/50 shot on getting females from reg seed lol thats bulls
 
ricardezra said:
you mean soft white cflS? im not, Im saying blacklights i used blacklight only and messed up bad. my first couple of grows
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dude, u just said that u foolishly tried the blue spectrum to flower but got no buds,u dont know what u did wrong
how old r u?u obviously have problems comprehending things
u have alot of things to learn
 
moash said:
dude, u just said that u foolishly tried the blue spectrum to flower but got no buds,u dont know what u did wrong
how old r u?u obviously have problems comprehending things
u have alot of things to learn
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just dont think you get what im saying
 
ricardezra said:
man you need two wake up bro and be open to new ideas. I have grown more than once with plenty of mistakes.I dont count those.I remember one time before I knew about Ph,my soil was not right,I got 10 out of 10 males from regular seed,NO BULL.but they are einsteins like you who say no way.they xx and xy male or female from start 50/50 shot on getting females from reg seed lol thats bulls
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I'm not your bro, and I am open to new ideas, but your ideas sound just like your own stoned musings. I've asked you if you have, or will, perform some actual controlled tests to back up some of the things you claim, but you just come back with posts like the gem above that have nothing to do with the subject matter...pH, seed germination, what do these have to do with anything you're speaking of?
Run some controlled tests, get some data. After that you may have a leg to stand on. Don't you notice all the people who have disagreed with you? You're going to have to produce some results if you want to convince us all. Without them it just seems like a stubborn kid arguing to get his way. :wall:

Being called Einstein as an insult doesn't carry much sting when it's coming from a guy like you...
 
moash said:
dude, u just said that u foolishly tried the blue spectrum to flower but got no buds,u dont know what u did wrong
how old r u?u obviously have problems comprehending things
u have alot of things to learn
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have you used a blacklight from start to finish and thats the only light?please tell me you have if not you need to do your research
 
A blacklight alone doesnt produce the spectrum nor does it have a strong enough intensity to grow a healthy plant.....plain and simple....what are you trying to prove?????
 
moash said:
huh?
u gotta be like 12 or something
there is no need for a black light
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dude i know this are you not reading what im saying?if you can induce the plant to think its dark and still photosynthesis would it not grow faster and stronger.you still need a hid or cfl too.but when the lights are off the plant does not photosynthesis,it does other functions.but what if you can make the do the other functions and photosynthesis,would that not be great?all im saying is you can,it works great!i was just trying to see if other people have this,but i see people here are too closed minded to try things
 
jcdws602 said:
A blacklight alone doesnt produce the spectrum nor does it have a strong enough intensity to grow a healthy plant.....plain and simple....what are you trying to prove?????
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dude i know this.you still need hid etc.but when the lights are off its different you can use other spectrums off light to do diffrent things you are not reading all my post
 
I get what your saying but black lights at night won't help a plant photosynthesis. Black lights do emit electromagnetic radiation but not in the visible spectrum which plants use. Black lights are coated with a nickel oxide which cuts out the light spectrum. Black lights are made of regular lamps just with the coating. Think of it like a microwave made to not emit heat waves. It still works but no matter how long you leave the hot pocket in there the damn thing won't cook.
 
ricardezra said:
dude i know this are you not reading what im saying?if you can induce the plant to think its dark and still photosynthesis would it not grow faster and stronger.you still need a hid or cfl too.but when the lights are off the plant does not photosynthesis,it does other functions.but what if you can make the do the other functions and photosynthesis,would that not be great?all im saying is you can,it works great!i was just trying to see if other people have this,but i see people here are too closed minded to try things
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it is not photosynthesising in the dark
its not doing anything but growing the way its supposed to...so u think,since the plant got bigger in the dark phase while u had the black light on,it must be working
u have found a break through in cannabis cultivation!!!!!!!:hump:keep it up
 
ricardezra said:
dude i know this.you still need hid etc.but when the lights are off its different you can use other spectrums off light to do diffrent things you are not reading all my post
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What are the different things that you can do with another spectrum of light at night time? I'm interested in hearing them, hopefully with a source, and ricardezra's mind after 3 bowls doesn't count. I have read all your posts and they're all over the place. If you agree that black light is useless on its own to grow a healthy plant, then what makes you think it will make a difference at night? If it doesn't encourage the photosynthesis needed during the daytime, why would it at night?

The only answer I've gotten out of you as to why you do this was a strange, false theory that a person could potentially cut 3-4 weeks from their flower time. Do you think anybody who reads that one is going to find you more credible and well-informed?

I think you drew this whole theory from selective reading of your own...
 
kylecole420 said:
I get what your saying but black lights at night won't help a plant photosynthesis. Black lights do emit electromagnetic radiation but not in the visible spectrum which plants use. Black lights are coated with a nickel oxide which cuts out the light spectrum. Black lights are made of regular lamps just with the coating. Think of it like a microwave made to not emit heat waves. It still works but no matter how long you leave the hot pocket in there the damn thing won't cook.
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and you know this because a chart say so?you can still grow a plant under a blacklight so its putting out some kind of light
 
freddiemoney said:
What are the different things that you can do with another spectrum of light at night time? I'm interested in hearing them, hopefully with a source, and ricardezra's mind after 3 bowls doesn't count. I have read all your posts and they're all over the place. If you agree that black light is useless on its own to grow a healthy plant, then what makes you think it will make a difference at night? If it doesn't encourage the photosynthesis needed during the daytime, why would it at night?

The only answer I've gotten out of you as to why you do this was a strange, false theory that a person could potentially cut 3-4 weeks from their flower time. Do you think anybody who reads that one is going to find you more credible and well-informed?

I think you drew this whole theory from selective reading of your own...
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blacklights are good enough for photosynthesis only thats all i want when i use them at night so they are strong for what i want
 
That was an intelligent answer. A candle puts out light but it won't grow a plant. Instead of thinking in general light think of light spectrums. Like i said a microwave can put out radiation but if it doesn't put out the right kind it won't cook shit does that make sense.
 
all ur post contradict
u cant even say what the point of the thread is....first its about finishing faster,then its about getting more females
 
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