How does destroying the property of innocent people fix systemic problems of governmental abuse ?
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hanimmal
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Rob Roy
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hanimmal
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That would work a lot better if Trump didn't just give all of the ground to Russia and Turkey, abandoning the Kurds fledgling democracy.
Rob Roy
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How can Trump (or any other douche bag politician) "give" ground half way across the world which isn't theirs to give ?
Can't Syrians figure out how they want to live and Uncle Sam can just stay home and fuck with his own serfs?
Democracy is to gang rape, as solo rape is to dictator...careful what you wish for.
Rob Roy
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Walmart only exists in its present form because they are government protected entities.
Looking for answers from the same entity which creates the problem, is like asking government forcibly funded schools to teach kids that bullying is bad.
hanimmal
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The bases are like real estate in my mind. By abandoning those he gave away our position in there. Not all military posts are a bad thing Rob, hopefully these war-torn regions get stable and those posts can help us work with those regions more easily.
Commerce is not a evil that people would make it out to be.
Rob Roy
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So, the world is the USA's playground and it can take any kids milk money it wants to, because "democracy" ?
The USA has created more "war torn" regions than any other country in the last century. Prove me wrong.
Let's start with Hawaii. - "annexed"- Euphemism for taken over. Should I continue from that time forward ?
"Conscription" , "draft" = Forcibly ordered into military service to kill people, so people can be free. That's pretty funny.
hanimmal
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'prove me wrong'. What a troll.
Why go 100 years? Oh well, doesn't really matter because it is an obvious answer, Wealthy White Heterosexual Males have been running damn near everything in our government until too recently to change everything we have ever done as a country that has turned out bad, without ruining all the good that we have in just 2 years that the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male Only agenda have not had the ability to keep everyone else from being able to catch up.
Was every war we had bad? Are all of our bases in allied nations committing warfare in those countries?
Rob Roy
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Wars are the result of indoctrination and nationalism for the most part. Innocent people are murdered in wars often by indoctrinated useful idiots if not their own governments. Democide is a term you might want to research.
Are wars bad? Yes. They are designed to forcibly redistribute money. land and power. Anything which uses force rather than mutual agreement to exchange property is a kind of theft, served up in a blanket of murder and destruction.
Why do you say "we" when you talk about wars ? Do you go around murdering people or do you just turn a blind eye when "we" do it ?
The government of Iraq made some noises recently for the USA to leave. The USA's response was a very rapey, "no". Gee, how surprising.
hanimmal
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Or none of that and we are just a violent species, just like most mammals are. In the American story some wars are to put a stop it (WW2), some are because people think they know better and make a mess of the trust we allowed them to have (Vietnam).
I say 'we' because I understand accountability of being a person in this nation we call America. I don't murder people, but if I did I would say I did, if I was a collective of people I would yes say 'we'.
doublejj
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so if 99 out of 100 people agreed with you Rob, what would you say to the 1% who disagree?
Fogdog
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false premise, no need to respond directly to your false argument.
The protests were precipitated by the torture-murder of black man that was performed in a naked act of aggression in front of a crowd of witnesses. There is a long history of cops perpetrating violence against black people and thousands turned out to protest that.
Virtually every attendee was peaceful. A few weren't. I understand why your racist mind would focus on that but again, those protests were about police acts of violence against black people.
You know all of that. I understand why you would try to mis-cast the real violence that is going on and want to sweep it under the rug, just like your president and his Republican Party wants. It must feel so degrading to once again defend these people.
Rob Roy
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So if Trump makes a poor decision, you are responsible for it or is he ?
hanimmal
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We all are, we are the country who unfortunately voted him into power along with the NRA-Russian sponsored Republicans.
But it doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his actions.
It is up to our country to shake off this mess and move forward. There are so many things that we can do together than really is not infringing on anyone's rights or life to make things better, but it gets trolled, and manufactured into a political issue.
Rob Roy
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I have no objection to people protesting. The murdering cop bears responsibility. I do object to anybody misdirecting their anger and harming innocent people or their property though.
Oh and thanks for the cops are mean to black people tip, Capt. Oblivious.
Except that's not all there is to see here. There is a long history of cops perpetrating violence simply by their existence. How are cops paid? What will happen if you don't pay them ? Who will make you pay if you object ?
The irony of obedient fear mask wearing people protesting government (police) brutality is a little strange. They wouldn't be wearing the stupid masks if they had a more comprehensive understanding of how duped they've been.
I guess that stupid (anti) social distancing thing all the sheep were baaing about has apparently gone out the window as the fear mask wearing protesters are shoulder to shoulder. That's hopeful. Shrug.
The protesters aren't going far enough, they should rip their masks off and burn them like all the real men did to their draft cards when they refused to go to Viet Nam. Then I'll know they're serious.
Rob Roy
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Did you vote for the idiot ? I didn't. Why do you feel compelled to obey an idiot ? When he grabs somebody by their pussy, are you responsible ?
You use the term "we" reflexively, almost like you underwent years of indoctrination or something.
Rob Roy
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I would say "hello doublejj" .
