How Does Your Garden Grow??????

@xtsho , I put an on your post because it's still friggin -10°C here. Your yard and garden look great!

Any zone 3b people here, or others, know when a good time to start peppers indoors is? Specifically Jalapeno's and Red Habanero's. I've read that they take between 10 - 21 days to pop typically so I'm thinking mid March. I'm in a May long weekend climate which has been closer to mid May lately as far as last frost is concerned.

Any recommendations from further North climate people is very welcome and appreciated.

Dorian2 said:

@xtsho , I put an on your post because it's still friggin -10°C here. Your yard and garden look great!

Any zone 3b people here, or others, know when a good time to start peppers indoors is? Specifically Jalapeno's and Red Habanero's. I've read that they take between 10 - 21 days to pop typically so I'm thinking mid March. I'm in a May long weekend climate which has been closer to mid May lately as far as last frost is concerned.

Any recommendations from further North climate people is very welcome and appreciated.

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I covered everything last night because it got below freezing. The hummingbird feeders were frozen this morning and when I thawed them and took them back outside the hummers were zipping around waiting. I think this will be our last night of freezing temps this year.

I don't know anything about planting schedules for your zone. Here in Portland it's zone 8b although some maps are showing it as 9a these days.

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Any recommendations from further North climate people is very welcome and appreciated.

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Build a green house.

myke said:

Build a green house.

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Trust me, it crossed my mind a number of times over the years. Ended up being a shed due to specific conditions. AKA no room for all the shit I've got.

I have some windows in my heated garage. I just hang some leds and start things there. Around maylong I move them in and out pending how cold it is.

myke said:

I have some windows in my heated garage. I just hang some leds and start things there. Around maylong I move them in and out pending how cold it is.

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When do you start things? That's the question I have for the hot peppers. The tomato's I did from seed last year were started indoors as well but I think I started them beginning to mid April. Tomatoes were fine if not a bit small when I got them in the ground. That's why I'm thinking mid April this time. Just seeing when other people pop their seeds before polanting outdoors.

Last year I started my tomatoes now. They got stunted and grew to big before they could go outside. Peppers you could do now.

myke said:

Last year I started my tomatoes now. They got stunted and grew to big before they could go outside. Peppers you could do now.

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Just had a look im 3b but they changed it to 4a? Go global warming!

I planted another round of peppers and tomatoes. Did all the same ones from before, as well as two trays (five varieties per tray) of new stuff. Also planted a few trays of citrus. Oranges, pink grapefruit and regular grapefruit, plus some mystery citrus. I got the sandhill garden cut up, but we are in the middle of a stormy few days, and I'm worried about the seeds getting packed with heavy rain, so I haven't put any seeds directly into the ground yet. Tomorrow I will plant squash and cukes, etc, etc. I hope to plant in the garden, and some in trays.

And if there is time, I'm going to plant flint corn at the riverhouse. I tilled up the bed today, but ran out of daylight. I saved about a dozen of the best ears and I'm not going to have any other corn down there. But I'm planting field corn and sweet corn on the sandhill. The new garden is behind the house where you can see everything in the backyard from the road, so I'm hoping the corn will give us some temporary privacy.

Dorian2 said:

@xtsho , I put an on your post because it's still friggin -10°C here. Your yard and garden look great!

Any zone 3b people here, or others, know when a good time to start peppers indoors is? Specifically Jalapeno's and Red Habanero's. I've read that they take between 10 - 21 days to pop typically so I'm thinking mid March. I'm in a May long weekend climate which has been closer to mid May lately as far as last frost is concerned.

Any recommendations from further North climate people is very welcome and appreciated.

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I am in zone 4a and I haven't started seeds yet but filling trays and getting lined up. I won't put much in until June. Cool night Temps and soil Temps just make everything slow and sulky. Better to grow big starts indoors and harden off slowly. Everything catches up by mid June.

I'm dodging thunderstorms, but trying to get some planting done today. I will wait on squash in the ground, but put seeds in trays for acorn, butternut and spaghettis. Also did a tray of Armenian cukes.

Everything, including the citrus.

The forecast low for Sunday morning is 25F. I moved all the peppers and tomatoes inside at the riverhouse. I'll run out and put the ones here at the sandhill under glass the next break in the weather. (there is going to be 35 mph winds tomorrow, so I'm going ahead and moving them today)

Just a guestimate as to zones. 4-5 here. I say around 4/20 there. I'm at day 11 here. Should be 12-16" by outdoor planting.
I suggest a double walled low hoop or tube build. Almost 2 zone gain in temps. My 10'x20'x10.5' H does little for advance planting. Limit the Sq. Ft. and they rock for cheap. Also try planters. Most peppers go dormant and winter well indoors. My mammoth jalapeno is 2 years old and ready to go.

A month or so back I lost over half of my citrus to cold. But I saw a few of the "dead" ones still had green stems, so I cut off the deadwood on them. Yesterday I noticed most of them has some new growth.


There was also a few in cups that were somewhat alive, so I've put them in pots. I'll set the ones at the riverhouse inside for the next couple of days. I have a little room left under glass at the sandhill, so I will pack as many in there as possible. I'm going to cover the ones already planted with buckets and pots where I can.

All my start's came up except for the row of Gazania and only one came up. Fortunately I have a big one in a pot that overwintered and a couple that had died back in a planter on the patio and have some new shoots starting. I had assumed the flower would grow as an annual here but they made it through the winter. It's a warm weather perennial from South Africa.

xtsho said:

All my start's came up except for the row of Gazania and only one came up. Fortunately I have a big one in a pot that overwintered and a couple that had died back in a planter on the patio and have some new shoots starting. I had assumed the flower would grow as an annual here but they made it through the winter. It's a warm weather perennial from South Africa.

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Where's the number one finger emoji. Afraid to go normal here. See how my roots feed me with my BS.
Keep growing people.

MICHI-CAN said:

Where's the number one finger emoji. Afraid to go normal here. See how my roots feed me with my BS.
Keep growing people.

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I'm pushing the limits as far as planting. I'm on it as soon as the freezing temps are gone but I got caught and had to cover things for a couple nights. We're done with that now. And if however unlikely we get anymore freezing temperatures I have plastic to cover everything.

But yeah. I got stuff out early. We'll see how cool season these crops are. I've planted beets, turnips, radishes, and peas. Direct sown outdoors.

xtsho said:

I'm pushing the limits as far as planting. I'm on it as soon as the freezing temps are gone but I got caught and had to cover things for a couple nights. We're done with that now. And if however unlikely we get anymore freezing temperatures I have plastic to cover everything.

But yeah. I got stuff out early. We'll see how cool season these crops are. I've planted beets, turnips, radishes, and peas. Direct sown outdoors.

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I'm still trying to mow the lawn when it gets warm. I'm F-d after the covid and surgery. Was to be dead or bed ridden by now. I got wood to split and plants to favor.

Best wishes.

Dorian2 said:

@xtsho , I put an on your post because it's still friggin -10°C here. Your yard and garden look great!

Any zone 3b people here, or others, know when a good time to start peppers indoors is? Specifically Jalapeno's and Red Habanero's. I've read that they take between 10 - 21 days to pop typically so I'm thinking mid March. I'm in a May long weekend climate which has been closer to mid May lately as far as last frost is concerned.

Any recommendations from further North climate people is very welcome and appreciated.

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Mid to late March is probably a safe bet. In my experience peppers always take a little longer to pop up than I think, closer to 21 days in my experience. Good luck!

OrionTheHunter said:

. . . . . . . . In my experience peppers always take a little longer to pop up than I think, closer to 21 days in my experience. Good luck!

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Hot peppers especially. My bells and mini sweets germ times are not too far behind the tomatoes. But the cayenne and habs are always so slow I just about add more seeds to the tray before they start popping.