How far can "ripeness" be pushed?

I've mentioned the English specifically for a reason. Let's not put all Brits in the same bucket.

Most countries in Europe have their own love-hate relationship with the English. They, on the other hand, just dislike everybody else :cool:.

Culturally they have a lot to give. Politically... well... they used to have a lot to take, but that's fading. A long phase of adjusting to new realities is ahead.
 
ComputerSaysNo said:
I've mentioned the English specifically for a reason. Let's not put all Brits in the same bucket.
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I know the politics that goes on in Brittan, so i got the drift. (: after all, da queen is our figure head, and we lick the back of her head evey time we send a letter in the post. :lol:
we also have the same sort of relationship with our direct French-speaking neighbors to our East. I've always liked them, and I love going on trips to their Provence, but they don't seem to like the rest of their country.
 
Oh, well, the French-English relationship is the most spicy of all the possible pairings. No wonder that applies to Canada as well, hundreds of years later.
 
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Oh, well, the French-English relationship is the most spicy of all the possible pairings. No wonder that applies to Canada as well, hundreds of years later.
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the whole war between the French and the English started in 1975, when The French Taunter, in Monty Python's The Wholly Grail Movie, insulted the English.

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Our relationship with them has been all down-hill ever since. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Was told by a source in the business that all pre-rolls are just the trim… no bud material at all. And that’s after shaking it for keif
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Not all pre-rolls in the industry are booboo, I rolled over 20,000 from small buds that most definitely weren't kiefed but if there was trichomes on that leaf it stayed in. Obviously we were going for quality as it was the house award winning strain but we also wanted other ways to utilize the smaller stuff to keep the premium nugs for the shelf. Only once in my life have I ever seen the company use a trimmer and that was the last time I saw them use it. The quality is day and night against hand trimmed and what most people don't understand is that those places aren't necessarily supplying top shelf of what cannabis connoisseur's considers top shelf they are just calling the best of what they have top shelf.

In this industry though you really don't always get what you pay for and sometimes those prerolls are way better than you'd think.Too many people give good ratings to shit companys or shit weed because mainstream people are fine with mediocre shit.
 
Token Dankies said:
Not all pre-rolls in the industry are booboo
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i never understood why people prefer pre-rolls. they're OK, and don't get me wrong, they have their place (just like going through the driver-thru at McDonald's), but don't go complaining about the quality of the food or roll, or lack thereof, when you can get so much better at a higher-end restaurant, or get the groceries yourself and cook a fancy meal.
 
How far can "ripeness" be pushed?

In direct answer to da question:
If you're cloning and growing the same plant every year, a very simple way to find out is to this year harvest a branch or two at various stages of the trichome cycle: 100% cloudy; 30% amber; 60% amber; 90-100%; 1 week overripe, etc.
Then after final harvest and cure, you can clear you agenda and schedule for a day or two, sit down in a very comfy chair, and then do a comparison.

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One should consider adjusting the light intensity per day (increasing/decreasing DLI) and the amount and intensity of UVA/deep-violet in the final ripeness phase of the grow to accelerate or slow down ripeness of the plant in line with the desired trichome contents.

Over-ripeness can be wanted, if you dont desire that much THC but CBN in favor.

Source: https://www.healthline.com/health/cbd-vs-cbn#cbn-benefits-uses
Here are some of the common uses and potential benefits of CBN:

Sleep
Many people report that CBN helps them sleep. However, there’s only one study showing that it can potentially act as a sedative — it’s from 1975Trusted Source and had only five male participants.

In the study, participants given a combination of THC and CBN experienced stronger sedative effects than with THC alone.

Pain relief
A 2019 rat studyTrusted Source found that both CBD and CBN were able to reduce myofascial pain in rats. A combination of CBN and CBD was even more effective than either alone.

The researchers concluded that CBN and CBD may be able to relieve pain from temporomandibular disorders and fibromyalgia.

Neuroprotective effects
One older 2005 rat studyTrusted Source found that CBN was able to delay the onset of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). However, it’s not clear at this time if it has the same effects on humans.

Anti-inflammatory effects
There’s some evidence in rats that CBN may reduce inflammation caused by arthritis. However, human research is needed to fully understand its potential benefits.
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In case you desire a high THC : CBD ratio, harvesting at an early stage is OK, because the CBD is tiny, no matter the THC isn't that high, even 8% would be still ok.... it was ok for decades, this stuff bangs your head like a wrecking ball, because of the low CBD, thats why harvesting not too late is great!

If you want a less psychoactive more fun to be with dope you let it get some amber. This is what i've learned. The genetic plays a role, for sure. But those values are at the given flowering time-duration the breeder states with high-light intensity measured.... not with low light intensities, then you must spend more days to achieve the same DLI, this is the same with any plant ripeness, tomatoes you can find DLI maps, how much to give extra to achieve the full potential in the "time" given. The energy for synthetising the resin secretion must come somewhere. Thats it! I grow with 1000ppfd in week 1-8 week and week 8-10 700ppfd increasing the UVA/violets around the noon. Incredible amount of Milky resin and all the way ripe stigmas up to the top! The first signs of amber, I give 24h darkness, for more terpenes and floavonoids peaking and less sugar content (respiring it all up) and harvest then.

No problems with mold, and always big sticky milky-way chunks!

It's tricky without such control to find the right timing to stop feeding the plant (2 weeks before that moment). On low light intensities, growers often hunger the plants out too early, like the breeders schedule, needing much longer, and then sometimes the plants ripe but the resin doesn't propperly without UVA/violet (photolyase) :(

When ever my stockpile run out and i calm down a few days, then snipping an early bud...oh dear, I always regret it, pure chaos in the mind.... and I love it the same time. But in general, a little CBD is better or I go nuts :eyesmoke:
 
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printer said:
I have some bought weed from when we legalized. I looked at it with my microscope out of curiosity and saw, the trichomes were missing. One of the reasons I still have it is because I haven't really got ripped on it. It is a Diesel, should do something to a, haven't smoked anything for 15-20 years guy. I really should grow a strain to do that though (mainly medical). Maybe in the summer.
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have you seen why? they use these tumblers at end of harvst and the trices get tmbled off and end up in a kief draw at the bottom, thats our trics missing from the bud
 
go go kid said:
have you seen why? they use these tumblers at end of harvst and the trices get tmbled off and end up in a kief draw at the bottom, thats our trics missing from the bud
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You guys are hilarious to keep going on about tumblers, stop shopping at the shit show shops and find a decent one or grow your own. I was in the industry for almost 10 years and among many of these myths the tumbled weed is another one of em. From drying to curing to bagging up it goes through many hands and a lot of those trichs get damaged by being man handled not by being tumbled. Stop spreading fucktardianism.
 
go go kid said:
thats our trics missing from the bud
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When your friends want buds at a low price or gifted for free like if it was nothing or easy and dont respect the work, like if it shit from the streets and not valueing the brutal mass of trichomes modern lights the grower produces in comparison to whatever they saw in a coffeeshop, higher quality, these good growers must be idiot to not tumble their compact bud outside-surface and produce a hash-plate with +80% for himself, or give-away these plates under value, like this one :) Why would I smoke weed anymore, when i can have THIS:

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1st choice sputnik of best maroc-family is a joke against this feminised sinsemilia hash. The value per gramm is simply to high for sale.... you want this for yourself if you can get your hands on it. Or produce it yourself witout destroying the buds like with iceolator.

This is what the coffeeshops and dispensories do too since a few years the THC and trichome-heads are hardly declining.... they tumbling more, because the buds grow more resin than ever before, thanks to light quality in the riping-phase.

Thats how it's going to be pushed to the max.... but nobody wants to pay it, but have more THC for free to buy less... suuuure, but who is the grower? Santa Clause? No, so they tumble it 5% of the mass down, still have good weed, but have the premium hash for themselves and dont need take away weed for themselves... so they have MORE to sell.

The question is... why would you not do it? If you smoke thats hash instead of weed, your smoking less material to get the same THC into your blood. You have 5% less mass..... but this "weed" you dont smoke anymore adds up instead, and its more, so you have more to trade with in effect ;=)

No problem when you produce +30% thc buds.... they are still upper 20s afterwards and still not "standard".

Shoot me I m afriend of dry sieved hash... this quality i produce for myself, you wont find in the highest regions of marokko or himalaya. Anyone who wants my weed, must let me take my part or find something else, or do it himself. I dont make it secretly, I do it for me and Im proud of it... and im also proud of all they way compact flowers that no matter they are sieved from the outside, when you crush them... theres ENOUGH trics... more than most people ever had seen in their life! So guess what, i dont fracking care the tard.... its idiotic! Who's anyone to tell me what am I supposed to do with my weed.... thats my decision! Your decision is when you want is: Take it or leave it! Im fine with both. Basta!
 
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