how long till they show sex???

Ok, so these plant (the biggest ones in my gallery, posted 0ct 4th) are about 5 1/2 weeks old. Yes, i know they should be bigger, but they were stunted in the beginning due to what i think is too hot a temp.

The question is, how long do you guys think till they show sex, so i can start flowering? IM hoping very much that they will show sex by next friday ( nine days from now), and i would think that they defnitley would, but the fact that they havent shown sex yet makes me skeptical...

Another question, is there a way to force them to sex? and does this inflict any harm or increase the liklihood of them bieng male?

Thanks

Depends how long you veg'. And how you grow. You could have early shows 2 days into 12 12.

Another question now....

Could i switch the photo period to 18/6 for a week or so? I know that photoperiod has the potential to make plants flower earlier and show more defniitive sex earlier, but since ive used 24/24 all this time, would that be bad?

I wouldent think so...

Thanks again

Firsttimer87 said:

The question is, how long do you guys think till they show sex, so i can start flowering?

Another question, is there a way to force them to sex? and does this inflict any harm or increase the liklihood of them bieng male?

Thanks

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Pardon me if I'm stating the obvious, but it sounds like you think the plants will just show sex on their own ... they won't.

You need to induce flowering by giving them 12 hours of uninterupted darkness each day for 2-3 weeks. During the 3rd week they will show sex and continue flowering as either male or female.

HTH

Not at all. Give the plants some rest. i gave mine 24 hours for a week, i think their 2nd week into veg as they vegged for 24 days. After that I put them on 18/6. There's a theory that the plants only have the capability to take in 18 hours of light anyway.

Wait wait wait, they dont show sex by themselves?????? I have to switch to 12/12 before calyxs form? This si defnitly news to me...

i thought that i veg them until they show sex, then I could either start 12/12 then, or wait till whenever they had vegged sufficiently in my eyes....

Which of these ways is the true way???

Also, the "flowering time" (8-10 weeks in my case) is from the start of the 12/12 or from when they show sex?

Thanks again again

Firsttimer87 said:

Wait wait wait, they dont show sex by themselves?????? I have to switch to 12/12 before calyxs form? This si defnitly news to me...

i thought that i veg them until they show sex, then I could either start 12/12 then, or wait till whenever they had vegged sufficiently in my eyes....

Which of these ways is the true way???

Also, the "flowering time" (8-10 weeks in my case) is from the start of the 12/12 or from when they show sex?

Thanks again again

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1st - No they dont show sex if u dont switch to the flower cycle photoperiod (unless u´re growing ruderalis a.k.a Lowrider)
2nd - If u leave a plant in constant 18/6 or plus hour cycle the plant will continue in veg cycle (this is how we keep mother plants)
3rd - U should never flower a plant (induce 12/12 cycle) on plants younger then 4 - 6 weeks
4th - the flowering time (those 8 - 10 weeks) are from the start of the 12/12 cycle

Thanks peoples


Man, i feel like an idiot

to get them to start showing there sex change your lighting times so they go into flowering. it won't hert them.

I thought ruderalis grew in Russia? Are lowriders a ruderalis hybrid?

skunkushybrid said:

I thought ruderalis grew in Russia? Are lowriders a ruderalis hybrid?

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Cannabis ruderalis is a putative species of Cannabis originating in central Asia. It flowers earlier than C. indica or C. sativa, does not grow as tall, and can withstand much harsher climates than either of them. Cannabis ruderalis is purported to go into budding based strictly on age and not on changes in length of daylight. This kind of flowering is also known as auto-flowering.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_ruderalis#_note-0 Cannabis ruderalis has a lower THC content than either C. sativa or C. indica; thus, it has little use as a drug. However, C. indica drug strains are frequently cross-bred with C. ruderalis to produce plants combining a higher THC content with the hardiness and reduced height of ruderalis.
The term 'Ruderalis' was originally used in the former Soviet Union to describe the varieties of hemp that had escaped cultivation and adapted to the surrounding region.
Similar Ruderalis populations can be found in most of the areas where hemp cultivation was once prevalent. The most notable region in North America is the midwest, though populations occur sporadically throughout the United States and Canada. Big wild ruderalis plantations also reigning in the center and eastern Europe, most of them in Lithuania, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia and around of these countries. Without the human hand aiding in selection, these plants have lost many of the traits they were originally selected for, and have acclimatized to their locale.
Though they contain little THC, these plants hold large potential for use in breeding, both in hemp and marijuana applications. Early flowering and resistance to locally significant insect and disease pressures are but a few of the important traits present in these feral populations.
Ruderalis
Ruderalis Indica
Ruderalis Skunk
Ruderalis Skunk x Indica
Rumplestiltskin
Russian Romulan are some of the hybrid strains that u can get...i´m sure there are a lot more.....

Thanks a lot. I thought it grew in Russia, and you've confirmed it. it's just that I've been thinking about this for a while as I'd really love to do an outdoor grow in this country. I was thinking of buying some ruderalis seeds and crossing them with white russian. Isn't ruderalis auto-flowering? I suppose it would take me testing it out (ruderalis/russian) to find out if this trait has been passed through to my hybrids.

Is it better to cross more than one pair of plants? Or like, say 10 of each?

How many generations does it take to develop your own strain, so long as the plants are compatible? Is compatibility (in respect of producing offspring that are constant in their behaviour and appearance) something that can be gained through breeding the same plants and their offspring for generations?

What if I just planted a male and female of each, let them seed and then plant the seeds outdoors and just leave them for a couple of years to get on with it?

Firsttimer87 said:

Thanks peoples


Man, i feel like an idiot

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Hey, Firsttimer ... welcome to the club. We've all been there. This is a learning process. No one is born a cannabis farmer, eh?

Think of it like this: What we are trying to do indoors, is to duplicate what happens in nature. If a cannabis seed germinates under full sun in the Spring or Summer when the soil warms up, it continues to grow in the vegative state because the sun is out 18 hours a day. As Fall begins and progresses, the daylight shortens to 12 hours a day. As the day shortens, the plant, which dies each year, says to itself: "Hey, I'm gonna die pretty soon, so I had better start thinking of reproducing my specie." Well, that's when it starts to flower. The males start to flower too ... and grow pollen sacs (think of them as testicles). As the female flowers, the pistils begin to form ... and they reach out to try to collect the male's pollen. The buds grow and as they do, they become more and more sticky. This is more of that attempt to collect the male's pollen. As the female ages, the pistils (that's the white hairs) start to turn brown and the crystals become cloudy. This is an indication that the life span of the plant is nearing the end. Its also the indication that its time to harvest the plant. The longer you let the plant go, the more body stone you will get from the plant and the less head high you will get. The idea is to find the happy medium for your taste and the strain you are growing.

That's about it in a nutshell.

Vi

Thanks for the "keep on truckin'" speech ViRedd....

Im still worried about whether or not they show sex before the 12/12 starts... I mean, not to say that i dont trust all you guys, but Greg Greens Cannabis Grow Bible says that they show sex before you cut the light cycle, and this is just the signal that you CAN start the light cycle...

If this is wrong im sorry, id just like reassurance....

The only way they can show sex before flower cycle is in their appearance and even then this can be misleading. For example our tallest skinniest plant ended up a female. We had it picked right from the start as the alpha male, how wrong we were. We also pulled a couple of hermies from the garden, wish I'd kept them now, but there you go. Anyway, chill. i was worried about this too as I believed the same thing you did. Telling them apart is a piece of piss and it takes the males ages to drop their load. You'll have plenty of time to pull them out.

mine are exactly a month old theyre closely noded w/ 7 nodes and about 7 inches tall and w/ no branches yet
theyre outdoor plants w/ a 10/14 light cycle when should they show sex? if anyone can anzwer ur the man

potroast said:

Pardon me if I'm stating the obvious, but it sounds like you think the plants will just show sex on their own ... they won't.

You need to induce flowering by giving them 12 hours of uninterupted darkness each day for 2-3 weeks. During the 3rd week they will show sex and continue flowering as either male or female.

HTH

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actually you are incorrect. My strawberry cough's were all on 24/0 and about 4 weeks into veg they showed sex on their own.. pistils coming out of the nodes..

skunkushybrid said:

Depends how long you veg'. And how you grow. You could have early shows 2 days into 12 12.

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No no no. They show

anberlinaddict said:

actually you are incorrect. My strawberry cough's were all on 24/0 and about 4 weeks into veg they showed sex on their own.. pistils coming out of the nodes..

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my bag seed did the same. Less than 4 weekS for me and the boys showed their nuts.