How many PK boosters do you need!?!?!

purplehays1

purplehays1

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I have not cultivated in years, just getting back into it. I am researching what i need and such and have come across like 100 "bloom boosters" that are all nearly the same thing. Is this just a big marketing gimmick? Advanced nutrients (never even heard of them until i started doing this research) has literally 5 products that are basically just a PK boost, Hammerhead, Big Bud, overdrive, Bud Candy and one more cant remember. Seriously? I am either really out of the loop or there is some serious shenanigans going on. I always use a PK boost in week one and 6-7 of flower don't get me wrong, but aren't they all basically doing the same shit?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Overdrive is the p/k boost out of those advanced products. I think powder koolbloom does the exact same, and is cheaper
 
jondamon

jondamon

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If your base formula is complete then you won't need any additional PK boosters.

Personally I use 1 PK booster for 3 feeds generally somewhere between week 4-6 of flowering.

The best thing I've bought for my grows are mono Ca and mono Mg.



J
 
purplehays1

purplehays1

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check the ingredients in them, they are ALL PK'S, they do have small amounts of other stuff, and different ratios of PK, like Big Bud has some N, but i cant fathom why u would need all 5 bloom boosters.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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purplehays1 said:
check the ingredients in them, they are ALL PK'S, they do have small amounts of other stuff, and different ratios of PK, like Big Bud has some N, but i cant fathom why u would need all 5 bloom boosters.
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You don't.

They just want you to part company with your money.

Then the schedule would be
use this booster during this week, that booster during the next few weeks, another booster in the final weeks and then a final booster to finish.

My nutrients consist of the following.

Base nutrient 2 part 5-4-3 NPK as I grow in coco.

A root stimulator.

An enzyme product.

Mono Ca

Mono Mg

PK1314

Some potassium Silicat.

I constantly use BASE A/B, root stim, enzyme product.

The others are for when deficiencies start in Ca or Mg.

The Si (potassium Silicat) I generally only use now if I need to raise my pH.


J
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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I mostly grow in coco these days.
I'm back using the flora series.
I use a formula close to heads modified lucas
Plus a little grow, and plus a 1/2 tsp. cal-mag per gal(i have extremely soft water)
I finish with 1 part micro, 3 parts bloom as a p/k boost.
Thats it! Killin it!
 
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churchhaze

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The only PK booster worth its salt (pun intended) is KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate).

H2PO4- is the form of phosphate the plant wants to take up.

K+ is the trusty potassium ion.

To raise K alone, you basically (pun intended) use potassium hydroxide (KOH)
 
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az2000

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I use GH KoolBloom liquid during early- mid-bloom, and KoolBloom powder in the last 2 weeks before cleanse. I find a dose of KB powder in mid bloom helps.
 
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churchhaze

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GH koolbloom powder is based on monopotassium phosphate.

Why have both? One is a commercial product while the other is the actual thing you want.

az2000 said:
I use GH KoolBloom liquid during early- mid-bloom, and KoolBloom powder in the last 2 weeks before cleanse. I find a dose of KB powder in mid bloom helps.
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racerboy71

racerboy71

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jondamon said:
You don't.

They just want you to part company with your money.

Then the schedule would be
use this booster during this week, that booster during the next few weeks, another booster in the final weeks and then a final booster to finish.

My nutrients consist of the following.

Base nutrient 2 part 5-4-3 NPK as I grow in coco.

A root stimulator.

An enzyme product.

Mono Ca

Mono Mg

PK1314

Some potassium Silicat.

I constantly use BASE A/B, root stim, enzyme product.

The others are for when deficiencies start in Ca or Mg.

The Si (potassium Silicat) I generally only use now if I need to raise my pH.


J
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hey j, what's up with those mono's? never heard of, is that a product name?? i have always used botanicare's cal / mag plus and have good results... ty.. :D
 
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churchhaze

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I've always wondered why he calls them monos. Maybe because of the name monopotassium phosphate (KH2PO4) has mono in it? That means there's one potassium, as opposed to dipotassium phosphate (K2HPO4). Is it a product?

The only practical "monos" in the sense jordamon is talking about are acids and bases, like KOH, HNO3, H2PO4, etc.

Each salt has 2 elements usually, an anion and a cation. Unless it's an acid or a base, each dry ingredient will always provide 2 essential elements rather than one.

Cal-mag+ is just calcium nitrate with magnesium nitrate and iron chelate. You can just get a pound of calcium nitrate for like 1-2 dollars and use magnesium sulfate if you have Mg deficiency.

racerboy71 said:
hey j, what's up with those mono's? never heard of, is that a product name?? i have always used botanicare's cal / mag plus and have good results... ty.. :D
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racerboy71

racerboy71

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churchhaze said:
I've always wondered why he calls them monos. Maybe because of the name monopotassium phosphate (KH2PO4) has mono in it? That means there's one potassium, as opposed to dipotassium phoosphate (K2HPO4)

The only practical "monos" in the sense jordamon is talking about are acids and bases, like KOH, HNO3, H2PO4, etc.

Each salt has 2 elements usually, an anion and a cation. Unless it's an acid or a base, each dry ingredient will always provide 2 essential elements rather than one.

Cal-mag+ is just calcium nitrate with magnesium nitrate and iron chelate. You can just get a pound of calcium nitrate for like 1-2 dollars and use magnesium sulfate if you have Mg deficiency.
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i got the bottle of cal / mag from botanicare for free along with like 4 or 5 other bottles of stuff in a sample pack like a year ago, and since i only use like 5 mg's every so often, it seems like it last forever..
 
jondamon

jondamon

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racerboy71 said:
i got the bottle of cal / mag from botanicare for free along with like 4 or 5 other bottles of stuff in a sample pack like a year ago, and since i only use like 5 mg's every so often, it seems like it last forever..
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I use CANNA MONO CA and CANNA MONO MG.

Its just how their labelled for sale.

In coco I've found it better to use individual Ca and Mg supplements rather than the combined calmag as I can control the levels of each accordingly.



J


@ church. I know I'm paying for water lol.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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I just can't for the life of me get into using raw salts. I know I waste
some money but.

You see, i like fancy, colorful packaging/bottling. I'm lame! Btw....Have you noticed how boring looking cal-mag is now? Might have to switch it up!
I kid, I kid
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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so was I, 100.00+ for a bottle at the local store. then a big 1 POUND box from mbferts for 5.99. LMFAO!!!!!!! im glad I live 15 mins from them. they carry a wide assortment of raw nutes.
 
Sativied

Sativied

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purplehays1 said:
Is this just a big marketing gimmick?
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That's exactly what it is, and what you pay for.

The same could be said about base nutes, but I spend about $20 per grow on a $3K harvest, premixed for me in a fancy, colorful packaging. Based on that I could easily spend $20 on a bottle of PK booster, but knowing it won't actually increase my yield it would be $20 wasted.

Here's some weird shit, very expensive too, 1 liter for $135 (toppenknaller is budboomer). 1 liter water is a 1 kilo, this is 1600gram... No fancy label but contains ionic silver...

 
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