ginjawarrior
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if you had a supply of nn dmt how much in a session/ how big a gap between sessions would you recommend?
doses at 30/40mg
doses at 30/40mg
how much dmt is too much?
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elfspice
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I would wait around 30mins. There isnt a real tolerance to DMT. You need to get tons of smoke in you all in one go to get past the brains defense mechanisms but that isnt a true tolerance like you see with other tryptamines. So if you dont get to where you want to go wait a little while then try again. Usually when I get the threshold experience I want to wait longer just so I can reflect on what happened.
You are doing good for dosage. I shoot for around 30-60mg but honestly these days ive stopped measuring with anything other than the eye.
You are doing good for dosage. I shoot for around 30-60mg but honestly these days ive stopped measuring with anything other than the eye.
ndangerspecimen101
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Much trueness in this statement!
That's what makes dmt all the better. Anything that doesn't build fast tolerance to the body is always a good thing
elfspice
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Fun times! On missions such as those it usually take me 30 minutes at least until I come back to myself. I recommend you have a friend there to grab the pipe, because you can and will eventually drop it.
Are you speaking of syrian rue extract? You would need to take much less of pure harmine or harmaline. I recieved a 20x extract of syrian rue and tested it with various substances. Perhaps I got a bad supply, but 200mg of 20x is the equivalent to 4g of syrian rue which should have been plenty for my purposes. I tried 200mg one day and then later 600mg, with less effect than I get from a simple acid based extraction of 2.5g of the seeds.
ANC
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There are basicaly 3 types of harmaloids we encounter regularly... The one you might think about is THH Tetra hydra harm....
With regular mixed harmaloid extraction from rue (which contains no THH, unike traditional DMT beverages), somewhere in the 150 to 200mg region (eqaulavlent to about 3g of seed) is what its gonna take depending on weight and metabolism.
After takeing it there is NO tolerance, you can just keep going round after round until you chicken out.... As said above it lasts MUCH longer....30 minutes can be an eternity.
There is very little effect from the rue on its own at these dosages, except it does remind me of acid, like there is a big secret thing going down between you and nature. But as I said the effect is very mild.
Best to just use you watch and give it a few minutes to get to your stomach and blood, then hit that elf spice.
With regular mixed harmaloid extraction from rue (which contains no THH, unike traditional DMT beverages), somewhere in the 150 to 200mg region (eqaulavlent to about 3g of seed) is what its gonna take depending on weight and metabolism.
After takeing it there is NO tolerance, you can just keep going round after round until you chicken out.... As said above it lasts MUCH longer....30 minutes can be an eternity.
There is very little effect from the rue on its own at these dosages, except it does remind me of acid, like there is a big secret thing going down between you and nature. But as I said the effect is very mild.
Best to just use you watch and give it a few minutes to get to your stomach and blood, then hit that elf spice.
ndangerspecimen101
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I actually have to look into increasing the magnitude of a mushroom trip by the affiliation of syrian rue. I heard the potency can increase quite variably, but truly how safe is this?
ANC
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Syrian rue is typicaly very safe as it is not a typical MAOI but rather what is called a RIMA... which means its reversable, if your body needs those amino acids etc.
THH the other one I told you about is what you get in typical ayauasca, this is a proper MAOI which takes your body day sif not weeks to recover all the neutralised "chemicals", which is why there are dietary issues with that.
With general syrian rue/extracts thereof, I don't think you are too likely to get cheese syndrome (thats the official name of the condition).
THH the other one I told you about is what you get in typical ayauasca, this is a proper MAOI which takes your body day sif not weeks to recover all the neutralised "chemicals", which is why there are dietary issues with that.
With general syrian rue/extracts thereof, I don't think you are too likely to get cheese syndrome (thats the official name of the condition).
elfspice
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I agree completely. I have personally mixed reversible maois and most of the no no's listed with non-reversible varieties to no ill effect. These are things like aged meats and cheeses, chocolate and alcohol. I wanted to experiment with the traditional ayahuasca diet and found that eating these food while under the influence didnt seem to effect the trip and eating them before hand would make you more nauseous, but for obvious reasons.
DONT take any MAOI if you are on antideppresants of the SSRI variety or another non reversible MAOI. I'd stay away from large doses of saint johns wort too. Don't take syrian rue with MDMA or other phenly group substances like mescaline or 2c's. Or with methamphetamines. These are all drugs that can and will have a harmful interaction.
Mushrooms and Syrian Rue go great together, I recommend you take half your usual amount of mushrooms. I find I have just as intense trips, but with a more spiritual aspect. Oh yes, and more snakes
ndangerspecimen101
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Gotta love the snakes my friendI agree completely. I have personally mixed reversible maois and most of the no no's listed with non-reversible varieties to no ill effect. These are things like aged meats and cheeses, chocolate and alcohol. I wanted to experiment with the traditional ayahuasca diet and found that eating these food while under the influence didnt seem to effect the trip and eating them before hand would make you more nauseous, but for obvious reasons.
DONT take any MAOI if you are on antideppresants of the SSRI variety or another non reversible MAOI. I'd stay away from large doses of saint johns wort too. Don't take syrian rue with MDMA or other phenly group substances like mescaline or 2c's. Or with methamphetamines. These are all drugs that can and will have a harmful interaction.
Mushrooms and Syrian Rue go great together, I recommend you take half your usual amount of mushrooms. I find I have just as intense trips, but with a more spiritual aspect. Oh yes, and more snakes
The combination of mushrooms and syrian rue seem to go very well together.... and you get the save a half 8th of mushrooms in the process. Its a win win situation!