How much light cfl do i need for 2 plants??HELP PLZ!

EvansInUK

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Yeah I've actually decided after not being able to find any 260w cfl bulbs an led that's actually a 260w lamp kit. So going to go with that instead. But I'm waiting for a response to see what actual watts they pull from the wall as a random post I came across said its the watts from the wall that actually count. Is this correct?
 

EvansInUK

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The OP said he was using six (6) 42-watt bulbs in his original post:
Yeah true but that's like 250 or something. Like 252 If my maths is correct. Maybe he just rounded it up closer to 260 not 250w but 260 was what I wanted. I just opened them links in background. I'll read up.tomorrow. just finished work.and need of.a shower
 

Johnny Lawrence

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Yeah I've actually decided after not being able to find any 260w cfl bulbs an led that's actually a 260w lamp kit. So going to go with that instead. But I'm waiting for a response to see what actual watts they pull from the wall as a random post I came across said its the watts from the wall that actually count. Is this correct?
Link to light you're considering?
 

Kingrow1

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What you mean suit my own personal opinion where are you plucking this bullshit from? I simply asked a question to the guy who said.he had a 260w side lighting with cfl. Then this random guy who the question was NOT directed at, gave a non reasonable response and came on here bashing me for replying to a 4 year old thread. What is wrong with me asking those guys previously to me with experience how they got their setup and how it worked out for them. That is the point of these forums ain't it, to find and get advice? Well I asked how he got it, would you rather I just repeat a thread over and over again year after year because I was to. Lazy to search for it..... I think NOT. So please, again keep those unsolicited comments of rubbish to yourself. I was asking about a bulb from beast, none of you that posted up crap, I have no personal opinion or gender I simply asked about a bulb a guy had, which I didn't know even existed. Hence my question. Instead of asking on a new thread with a 4 year old question. Jeez you guys are making these forums rubbish with unpresented crap. I simply asked if he had a 260w cfl and where from because I wanted one and I couldn't find one anywhere. So I was going to use 2 either side of the plant. Adding up.to 520w each side.

So the reason I jumped on a 4 year old thread was to get an answer for something which didn't sallicitate a new thread when one was already open.
I didnt swear, degrade or negate that upon sign up it asks you to read rules and stickies on this basic stuff.....!

And yet you burst in and talk down going on about what this site has come to because of us long term members.

Your lucky these guys posted back with answers, shit site right :-)
 

Johnny Lawrence

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I didnt swear, degrade or negate that upon sign up it asks you to read rules and stickies on this basic stuff.....!

And yet you burst in and talk down going on about what this site has come to because of us long term members.

Your lucky these guys posted back with answers, shit site right :-)
He's sensitive.
 

Kingrow1

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He's sensitive.
Well it can seem frustrating to new members, if they dont bitch on.... well anyway this is a cfl thread and ive always approched most stuff from a different angle.

This is for all t5 t8 and cfl flourescents (although i am not current with todays latest tech or mods) :-)

Phosphor - dis is da coatin on du inside of da bulb, its triphosphor or three seperate phosphors applied in one mix.

Does this matter - yes greatly if your an led freak, science dictates many forms of phosphor, two or three exspensive ones happen to emulate sunlight very well indeed. If you but top brand fish tank flourescents you probably wouldnt know but these guys did there homework and used these exspensive types hence their jacked up prices. Its not essential to but they are superior.

I used cfls a while back, big 200/250watt ones, envirolites used superior phosphor and maxi didnt, the difference was very noticable.

Small cfls are somthing you probably need to avoid, they have had their day mainly, some still go but after a few grows you really want a better light.

I did 9 smallish plants under a 200 and 250watt envirolite, not dissapointed but hps is much better. That said they are less intense and easier to work with as a new grower but too many other cheap choices they get overlooked.

I didnt and dont care about electric costs, all lights give massive returns and small grows barely cost a gram or so a week to run, for 400grams profit :-)
 

EvansInUK

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What are you talking About? I never mentioned anything negative about old timers here and a matter of a fact oldmeduser and another well known member have been extremely helpful so just stop with your degrading comments. Always people online looking for negative information that doesn't exist because they have nothing else better to do, I really pitty them people. I never mentioned this site was shit so again where you plucking this bullshit from? Seriously quote me where I once mentioned this site was shit... please screen shot and show me. It's people like you that misread information and jump on the band wagon when others are trolling because you feel like you have something to say. Don't say anything at all if your not going to help. Forget about cfl's now I've got the information I needed from the first 2 pages before that idiot came on here bashing me, and most of the info was from 2 well known members that have both messaged me since this post and taught me a better way. So please keep that naive crap in your first post to yourself. I said if that's all the response we are going to get for asking on a thread that's already created under the same god dam topic then I can see why people are dubious about joining forums in the first place. I'm not sensitive nor do in really give a crap about anyone else online.... So I'm not upset or sad. But what's the point in recreating post after post after post when threads already have some of that information on already. You don't see people recreating the bible over and over and over again with slang words written in just because the English dictionary has been updated.... So why start something all over again when the people who actually have what your looking for, or has used what you've already planned on buying has already commented and you just need that little extra help. But I.wont bother posting on this again. I'll just directly contact those with the respect who actually commented fairly and not negatively.
 

EvansInUK

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I never asked information about hps or how mant plants.... I asked about 1 specific bulb that the guy had that I wanted a few months ago and couldn't find anywhere.

I know cmh has best spectrum for veg, hps annihilates cfl for intensity, power, penetration etc. I don't need those answers. I just wanted to know where he got that bulb from. But clearly he hasn't come back to this post. So neither will I. I have pm'd him anyway. As for those who did comment with information that I could use, thank you very much. I saw he said 6x 42w but that don't add up to 260w lol but never mind I've been convinced to join the LED crew just so I.can keep it inside again instead of in my garage. Now I need to figure out leds I want to veg with one and flower with hps
 

Kingrow1

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What are you talking About? I never mentioned anything negative about old timers here and a matter of a fact oldmeduser and another well known member have been extremely helpful so just stop with your degrading comments. Always people online looking for negative information that doesn't exist because they have nothing else better to do, I really pitty them people. I never mentioned this site was shit so again where you plucking this bullshit from? Seriously quote me where I once mentioned this site was shit... please screen shot and show me. It's people like you that misread information and jump on the band wagon when others are trolling because you feel like you have something to say. Don't say anything at all if your not going to help. Forget about cfl's now I've got the information I needed from the first 2 pages before that idiot came on here bashing me, and most of the info was from 2 well known members that have both messaged me since this post and taught me a better way. So please keep that naive crap in your first post to yourself. I said if that's all the response we are going to get for asking on a thread that's already created under the same god dam topic then I can see why people are dubious about joining forums in the first place. I'm not sensitive nor do in really give a crap about anyone else online.... So I'm not upset or sad. But what's the point in recreating post after post after post when threads already have some of that information on already. You don't see people recreating the bible over and over and over again with slang words written in just because the English dictionary has been updated.... So why start something all over again when the people who actually have what your looking for, or has used what you've already planned on buying has already commented and you just need that little extra help. But I.wont bother posting on this again. I'll just directly contact those with the respect who actually commented fairly and not negatively.
Shut the fuck up and go away noob, in no part was i dissing your dumb ass but your basically asking for it so noob off little kid :-)

That and welcome to RiU
 

EvansInUK

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I didnt swear, degrade or negate that upon sign up it asks you to read rules and stickies on this basic stuff.....!

Right .... after you quoted me. How about stuff you kid. So it's better 50 new people coming here and making 50 new posts with 50 of the same topic, in which case, those kind enough to spare their time and offer advice and offer practical help eventually repeat them selves to the point where they no longer answer anyone's posts. Yeah good job. That Totally makes sense with that logic. Peace...
 

Johnny Lawrence

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Price per kw or your lying?
38 cents during peak

30 during non peak

My electricity bill is huge. And I've managed to shave about 1000 watts off my total setup by switching to LEDs in half of my flowering rooms.

Still running an SE 600 in a 4x4 and a DE 6/750 in by big room, just cause I'm old school and still get a boner for HID. Those are also my two tallest rooms. The other two are tents, and the LEDs crush it in there.
 

Johnny Lawrence

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And for reference, the national average here in the US is around $.11

But then i get punished for being an above average user. I pay a higher rate than most of my neighbors.
 

Kingrow1

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38 cents during peak

30 during non peak

My electricity bill is huge. And I've managed to shave about 1000 watts off my total setup by switching to LEDs in half of my flowering rooms.

Still running an SE 600 in a 4x4 and a DE 6/750 in by big room, just cause I'm old school and still get a boner for HID. Those are also my two tallest rooms. The other two are tents, and the LEDs crush it in there.
That is not really exspensive, thought it would be more the way you go on about it...
 

Johnny Lawrence

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It's the highest rates in the US.

Troll on, troll.

Actually, you should make another thread crying to the moderators. That shit was hilarious. Definitely your best work to date.
 

Kingrow1

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It's the highest rates in the US.

Troll on, troll.

Actually, you should make another thread crying to the moderators. That shit was hilarious. Definitely your best work to date.
Gives a toss about highest in the country, if you cant make a good profit of this ya doing somthing wrong.

You whinge a lot, i asked a question that you led peeps cant and refuse to answer then went on to school you on how to manage heat not hump leds. This heat info you all failed to write or understand whilst again humping leds. I see how you migjt tjink its trolling, those that can grow simply see it as the correct info.

Whilst you are like this and crudding up this forum others have gone back and checked my info and damn they are improving a lot, i dont force peeps into any light i merely allow them to make an informed choice.

This was the problem not keds but you decided your bro scjence needed a champion and five years later led peeps still misunderstand heat and light.

Laughable :-)
 

Johnny Lawrence

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Gives a toss about highest in the country, if you cant make a good profit of this ya doing somthing wrong.

You whinge a lot, i asked a question that you led peeps cant and refuse to answer then went on to school you on how to manage heat not hump leds. This heat info you all failed to write or understand whilst again humping leds. I see how you migjt tjink its trolling, those that can grow simply see it as the correct info.

Whilst you are like this and crudding up this forum others have gone back and checked my info and damn they are improving a lot, i dont force peeps into any light i merely allow them to make an informed choice.

This was the problem not keds but you decided your bro scjence needed a champion and five years later led peeps still misunderstand heat and light.

Laughable :-)
What?

LMAO. You're fucking hilarious.
 
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