How reliable are Lux meter apps on smartphones?

zacuriah

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JimmyJackCorn

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I don't know if I have a good approach, but I am not using these apps to get good readings. I'm looking for relative readings.

If I calibrate my app/phone to detect PPFD at what product reviews and/or the manufacturer rates the output, then I can get relative measurements at different heights and different locations in my tent. I do this to place my plants in the best places possible for my setup. It also helps me verify dim and height settings as performing how I would expect (again, in relative terms).

I don't expect perfection, but it's another guiding tool (in addition to back-of-the-hand, following manufacturer's recommendations--and, most of all, reading the plants).

Using PPFD Meter (the app) and a Verizon Samsung S8+, I have to calibrate down 11%. However, to get a 100,000 LUX reading in full sun (without a diffuser), I have to calibrate it down 65%. I've noticed that how I point my phone has a HUGE impact on the reading, so I try to point it at the center of my LED fixture (TSW2000).

When I calibrate to my light, I find that I get readings comparable to the footprint chart from the manufacturer. Therefore, I feel okay about using it to get general ideas of light intensity to provide another data point in my dim and distance settings and plant placement.

I would never make a decision based on a phone app light meter alone.
 

migenetics

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If you have android I would look up ppfd meter. Has about ten different settings for all different kinds of light(hps,cmh, led ect..). Also allows you to put the amount of hours of light per day to make sure you're getting enough light per day. App looks like thisScreenshot_20210327-072418.png
 

PJ Diaz

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If you have android I would look up ppfd meter. Has about ten different settings for all different kinds of light(hps,cmh, led ect..). Also allows you to put the amount of hours of light per day to make sure you're getting enough light per day. App looks like thisView attachment 4863856
I tried it a couple of weeks ago. It was super glitchy. My phone is Android 10 and only a month old.
 

migenetics

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I tried it a couple of weeks ago. It was super glitchy. My phone is Android 10 and only a month old.
My readings seemed a little low like the guy above and It leaves a lot to be desired. It also doesn't specify what high cri led is.... Are they talking about a 90cri cob or 95+ cri strips. It's a relatively newer app and one of the guys who helped make it is on this board so hopefully over time it gets better.
 

PJ Diaz

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My readings seemed a little low like the guy above and It leaves a lot to be desired. It also doesn't specify what high cri led is.... Are they talking about a 90cri cob or 95+ cri strips. It's a relatively newer app and one of the guys who helped make it is on this board so hopefully over time it gets better.
Mine kept freezing up and sticking on certain numbers. Also I couldn't decide which setting to use, because I run LED and CMH together. My years old cheap lux meter tells me how even my lighting is, even if it doesn't tell me par or ppfd.
 

migenetics

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Mine kept freezing up and sticking on certain numbers. Also I couldn't decide which setting to use, because I run LED and CMH together. My years old cheap lux meter tells me how even my lighting is, even if it doesn't tell me par or ppfd.
Mine always says "light sensor stopped reporting" and it's a rather annoying glitch. Seems to be fairly accurate with the hps side of my room but the side with qb96's are quite low.
 

PJ Diaz

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Mine always says "light sensor stopped reporting" and it's a rather annoying glitch. Seems to be fairly accurate with the hps side of my room but the side with qb96's are quite low.
It'n never gonna be accurate anyway, because they aren't measuring par with the app. It measures lux, and then uses a math conversion based on your preset to determine par. It's nice idea, and could come close with app updates, but let's also not kid ourselves to think that it's measuring par.
 

migenetics

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It'n never gonna be accurate anyway, because they aren't measuring par with the app. It measures lux, and then uses a math conversion based on your preset to determine par. It's nice idea, and could come close with app updates, but let's also not kid ourselves to think that it's measuring par.
I hear what you're saying, I don't really want phones to get more expensive either so I don't mind the cheap light sensors we got on our phones. I just like this app over others because they seem like they are willing to tweak and improve the app for our needs. I would never compare it to a $200+meter though.
 
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