How to pick a good male plant

Alright so I have some male plants to pick from the strains are Tahoe og , kalishnapple kush , th seeds heavy duty fruity prob the shittiest looking of the males think have 3 ,cheese quake,plush berry, qrazy train,and I think 6 Cali connection males from a mixed 12pack No clue what strains . My question is how do I tell a good male from a not so great male plant I have just moved them out of my grow room do I need to flower them to find a good 1 to hang on to would like to breed with at least a couple since they took up good amount of space for few months don't want to feel like total waste of time n $ . Thanks for taking the time to help .

Jesus. Depends on what you are trying to do. Improve some strains? Just get seed to grow? If trying to improve then what are you trying to improve? Stem strength for better budding or close internodal space or bud flavor? Outdoor hardiness?

Chose according to appearance,growth pattern & smell of the plant, one that is the best representative of the phenotype you want your seeds to grow like

The female plants that im working with are purple gorilla , blue dream, and grandaddy purple aka granddaddy not purple. critical mass pineapple chunk ch9super haze and Jamaican dream . Can put up complete list when I have little more time

Thanks guys sounds like there is a lot of things I need to think about any good material u think I need to read or should read .

Oops sorry for repeat thread just noticed someone asked basically the same question in thread started before mine .

In my opinion a good male is hard to find. It's that plant that just blasts out of the gate when its growing, super compact, huge leaves, smells so amazing. You cannot wait to flower this plant, then it turns out to be male. Superior to 90% of the other males sprouted, and 90% of females in smell.
Sincerely,
Iloveplants

IlovePlants said:

In my opinion a good male is hard to find. It's that plant that just blasts out of the gate when its growing, super compact, huge leaves, smells so amazing. You cannot wait to flower this plant, then it turns out to be male. Superior to 90% of the other males sprouted, and 90% of females in smell.
Sincerely,
Iloveplants

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This is how i spot my males in veg it's always that CERTAIN but good smell.

the best thing to do is just TEST your males for your keeper before actually using it just as you test your mothers for keepers unless you're breeding for speed & stature which will reveal itself without breeding, but you won't know what quality you get without testing.

the more quality control you put into breeding, the better your results will be. males have as much pheno variation as females. SERIOUS breeders pick their keepers from fields of 100 or so. if you're just breeding from a single pack, then you should only have 4-6 males to select from on average. all you have to do is wait 1 generation for results and to maintain your males until you find your keeper or keepers if you're doing a couple crosses.

you want the male to have recessive traits...................not dominant ones. i do believe. i'm no breeder

that's if you want to preserve your mother's traits. i'd want a sativa to dominate the fuck out of an afghani myself. that's why skunk #1 sucks so much if you ask me. even at 25%, you still mostly just get stoned off it.

it depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

i'd want a buddha's sister male to dominate whatever i bred it to in the flavor department at least if not the stony buzz, and if i was using one as a female like i'll be doing with the fastest flowering untested malawi gold male i'll be using, i'd want that to dominate in the buzz department and would hope that it's lemon flavor doesn't dominate the cherry.

Alright Would like to thank everyone who took the time to give some advice just pulled 6 more late bloomers from the flower room kinda bummed hope that's the last of em.I decided to keep a couple the crazy train male I picked because it just smells super strong this 1 little plant in 2gal container is smelling up my back yard like kinda fruity but then kinda shitty at the same time hard to explain it's sativa dominant and grew very fast plan on crossing this with my purple gorilla and see what they make. Also kept a really smelly cheese quake.and a kalishnapple kush that I was really disappointed to find out was male looks like would have been a big yielder has has some citrus kinda smell very faint but can smell I will put up some pics of the studs I picked in a few hr thanks again for the advice .

hazey grapes said:

the best thing to do is just TEST your males for your keeper before actually using it just as you test your mothers for keepers unless you're breeding for speed & stature which will reveal itself without breeding, but you won't know what quality you get without testing.the more quality control you put into breeding, the better your results will be. males have as much pheno variation as females. SERIOUS breeders pick their keepers from fields of 100 or so. if you're just breeding from a single pack, then you should only have 4-6 males to select from on average. all you have to do is wait 1 generation for results and to maintain your males until you find your keeper or keepers if you're doing a couple crosses.

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test the males guessing u mean dry up some flowers and burn a bowl see how he smokes ? This is totally new to me so sorry for the dumb question

this is the stinky little bastard . qrazytrain
here is the kalishnapple kush

males dont have buds to smoke bro....

You smoke leaves before you've smoked anything before. Good males will make you notice.

You can reverse males too and make them grow flowers. Some breeders do this. Chimera specifically does this, probably others too.

You don't want vigorous growth if you're looking for drug content in your project. Hollow stems, good odor, structure. Generally the smaller male plants will have more energy devoted to drug production and less to vegetation. It's a balance though. Most breeders don't select exclusively for drug content.

OGEvilgenius said:

You smoke leaves before you've smoked anything before. Good males will make you notice.

You can reverse males too and make them grow flowers. Some breeders do this. Chimera specifically does this, probably others too.

You don't want vigorous growth if you're looking for drug content in your project. Hollow stems, good odor, structure. Generally the smaller male plants will have more energy devoted to drug production and less to vegetation. It's a balance though. Most breeders don't select exclusively for drug content.

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ya was figuring could smoke the leaves just didnt know if the flowers would have more if any thc.1 of the tahoe males has some visible trichs i figured if it makes trichs proly a decent plant to go with i still have all of them off site and plan on collecting pollen from all and testing the leaves and or dried flower petals just to try whats worst that can happen it tastes like mexican weed maybe small headache . if nothing else i just might find a decent stud or throwem all away either way im going for it time to stop thinking about it and start doing!!!!! and males do make flowers just totally diffirent kind than a female .

ha was wondering if anyone has hermed a male thats good shit will they polinate themselves and make all males lol mother nature has some crazy tricks up her sleeves.

trouble27 said:

ha was wondering if anyone has hermed a male thats good shit will they polinate themselves and make all males lol mother nature has some crazy tricks up her sleeves.

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i would assume so, but i know literally beans about pollen chucking..

test the males guessing u mean dry up some flowers and burn a bowl see how he smokes ? This is totally new to me so sorry for the dumb question

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no, i mean test breed each of your males to a single female or several clones to see what each actually produces and select the one that makes the best offspring. it adds an entire 2 generations worth of work before you even start breeding, but that's how the elite breeders do it... they select and breed and keep repeating it with as many individuals to start with as possible. there would be a noticeable difference between plants bred with the best male & females in a pack and the worst, especially if a strain has wider pheno variation.

the more time and effort you put into selecting for the best parents at every stage in a breeding program, the better your final results will be.

if you're just playing around trying to make strains up with new combinations of traits from a couple favorites, i don't think selection is quite as important as some seem fanatical about. if you start with the best strains from the beginning, then pheno variation shouldn't be a bummer as whatever parents a top strain had each were awesome in their own rights. my C99 male shorty and the super cali haze freebie i knocked up with it turned out great. it was every good as all of the generic fruity hazes in my grow and maybe even a little better (but none of them were 12 week+ auto hazes like SCH) but not as good as sweet haze.

both of it's parents were from good strains and maybe hybrid vigor gave the cross a little extra sumethin' sumethin' that was starting to fade in stabilized strains. once you stabilize a strain, it will tend to wane like a clone mother or clones of clones. eventually genes get tired and introducing fresh genes perks them back up. that's why you see breeders polluting their own strains with different genetics after a few years sometimes.

some here hate strains that aren't stable and predictable where sloppy hybrid vigor works for me and pheno variation gives you more variety to pick and chose from.

all i know is i liked fruity booty
i imagine there was a little pride bias testing it because it didn't suck and at least held it's own. i think it was a little denser & stickier than a few strains objectively, but sweet haze was the stickiest and fruitiest plant in the entire grow. that one will make something really nice i'm positive because the mother was very awesome