HPS supplemental lighting below canopy

Greensome

Member
Hey folks, for awhile now I've had the desire to put lights under the canopy in a SOG configuration. When I started to look at small, supplemental lights, I experienced a couple of odd realizations...
For one, many people lighting lower branches almost always use CFL's regardless of the main lights normally used. I noticed that the thinking here was some light was a lot better than none.

Fine, great. But I thought to myself, "why not put some small HPS in there?"
Before I did any research, I knew there had to be a reason. I was not, after all, the first person in the history of growers to think of that. And, I found the issue...

It appears that when one looks at HPS lighting below 200w, and especially below 150w, they hit a wall. Literally. The only lights readily available at these wattages were wall mount direct wire stuff. And, they're expensive. Fuck around with clicking around and you can spend as much on a 50w HPS setup as a 400w one.

Another issue which I already assumed is that of additional power draw and heat. Even though I only use HID lighting, the CFL's were clearly shining through (couldn't resist) for this use. I thought that until I started finding unwired ballasts in 50, 75, 100, and 150 watt configurations. Many of them were cheap, less than $20.

Having a history in electronics (DC circuits primarily) I found that by perhaps swapping out the main film capacitor with a very low current alternative, it'd be possible to make for a low amperage, and low heat setup.
So I got a 150w unwired ballast off of ebay for $18, and I ordered the cap from my electronics supplier (Jameco) and wired it all up with the switched out cap.

Voila!
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This draws <1.5 amps on a 120v line! Heat? Almost non-existent. You can put your hand <1/2" to the bulb before it starts to feel hot. Perhaps lower amp caps will make heat and draw even less, but I feel going below that will impact lumen output.

Bottom line; This is a great setup for supplemental lighting while adding minimal heat and power draw to your setup. And hey, you're giving those flowering plants the spectrum and intensity we all know they really want.

P.S. - The "wave" appearance in the photo I believe is a demonstration Young's Interference, and Quantum Physics phenomenon. Didn't expect to see that when I snapped the photo!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
If you are using decent primary lights, anywhere from 600w and up, I personally wouldn't waste the time. I did CFL supplements once, and I found it really wasn't needed with the 1000w that I had running. That's my opinion at least. Peace
 

Greensome

Member
if you wanted to have a lower powered lamp, you can install a lower spec'd cap. So considering Ohm's Law, amps x volts = watts. A 1 amp cap drawing 120v = 120w. .5 amp cap on 120 is 60w. You could put a 75w bulb in the 60w outputting ballast and have a 60w light; a rating that I believe doesn't even exist commercially.
 

Greensome

Member
If you are using decent primary lights, anywhere from 600w and up, I personally wouldn't waste the time. I did CFL supplements once, and I found it rally wasn't needed with the 1000w that I had running. That's my opinion at least. Peace
I suppose it depends upon the situation. For me, I have a lot of lower branches that get almost nothing. You also used CFL, I'm talking about HPS. I'd like to hear if anyone has done this before and what the results were.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
I suppose it depends upon the situation. For me, I have a lot of lower branches that get almost nothing. You also used CFL, I'm talking about HPS. I'd like to hear if anyone has done this before and what the results were.
Using HPS as side lighting, I would agree with. Using one in the middle of a grow, that would be a problem with the heat in my estimation, You probably would burn the shit out of them.
 

Greensome

Member
I thought the same things, and that it wouldn't work. But check out the mod I've done with the ballast, and the possibilities that exist with these low watt bulbs. Heat is a non issue with this. Some of the branches are like an inch away and are just fine. To me, the greatest advantages of CFL supplemental lighting (low power and heat) have been addressed, and just about anyone, with a bit of reading, can do the same thing. I just can't imagine at this point doing any other kind of supplemental lighting. If HPS is best for the tops, they're best for the bottom.

I just started doing this however so I am not able to see the results. What I do know is that it went from really dark under the canopy to where now I can see everything, and my temp hasn't moved.

Furthermore, low watt bulbs are cheap. This whole setup could be built for less than $30. At that price and with these aforementioned features, I can't think of one good reason to use anything else... not saying that I'm not open to suggestions.
 
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