Hydrocodone 5/325

So, I recently had a minor surgery and was prescribed 5/325 hydrocodone pills.

Let me preface this by saying that I've seen opiate addiction up close, and had a few friends lose themselves to heroin...My father also was addicted to prescription opiates for a while, i'm guessing hydrocodone was the culprit there as well.

So, that being said, I've never really used opiates. Maybe prescribed doses when I had wisdom teeth pulled, but I've only had to take a few pills for the surgery I had, and the pain has pretty much subsided...Anyway, the prescription was for 60 pills, with 2 refills...thats like 900mg of Hydrocodone. Well, i took a few for actual pain, so not a full 'script. I know how to do a CWE to remove some of the APAP, and last night I took roughly 20-25mg...felt pretty good for a while, and had some awesome sex. Was pretty much my first time recreationally using opiates.

How addictive are we talking here? I use other drugs occasionally, namely cocaine...But I manage to spread the usage of that substance out to once(one bag, till it's gone, maybe 2-3 days) every 8-12 months usually, after which I experience mild cravings, but feel like they're under control until they fade away almost completely.

What do I do with the remaining pills? I think overall with the refills, I have like 160 5/325's left...Should I not even open up this door? Toss the pills and never refill the 'script? $1 a mg? I dunno, not enough experience with prescription drugs.

If you can handle coke infrequently you can probably handle opioids infrequently though having a large stash of them might make that harder but they are less compulsive than coke.

You could sell them if you're too worried about it. But if you've personally never had problems in the past, and have experience with other drugs, I wouldn't worry too much. It takes a little while to start getting physical w/d or anything like that. If you just limited yourself to the weekends, I don't think you'd have any problems. But at the same time, everyone is different... I can't talk much since I have had an opiate problem in the past. It took a while to start becoming a problem though.

i was scripted an over abundance of percosets after a surgery, and used them religiously even after not needing them. when the script ran out, i worried about withdrawls and such, but it didn't cause a problem. i abused the shit out of them too...

i don't think you'll have enough, or enough time to develop a problem. take care though...

from what i understand, my remaining 800mg is only a large stash for one with a low tolerance...I hear about people doing between 60-120mg per dose?...

Quick CWE question...better to filter twice, once through a looser filter media to catch the large APAP crystals, and second through a coffee filter? Also, a second wash of the APAP will extract more hydrocodone, but I hear it drastically increases the amount of APAP in the final solution...Not worth it? Especially seeing as I have more than I really know what to do with...

Well, I go back to work wednesday, figure I'll do another CWE of 7 pills, so 35mg...figure i'll lose at least 5 mg during the extraction and use it tonight, then have tomorrow off to chill and relax before going back to work...

Yesterday I ate 4, and then did a CWE on 4 more and drank half of that, thats how I figured 25ish mg last night, cause it was my first CWE and I wasn't really being too meticulous...didn't wanna squeeze the filter, so probably left a bunch of hydrocodone in with the APAP paste.

You don't have enough to catch a habit but cravings can start earlier and they're the bigger problem really. Being sick sucks but it goes away but cravings are what makes you go back. I would avoid taking them when you're upset. Opioids kill emotional pain just as well as physical pain and IME that's one of the fastest routes to a problem.
I find one filtration works just fine. Gently squeeze the last of the liquid out of the junk on the filter. If you don't have a habit a wash isn't really worth it but if you do you probably care more about getting every last microgram of opioid out and less about frying your liver.

MrEDuck said:

You don't have enough to catch a habit but cravings can start earlier and they're the bigger problem really. Being sick sucks but it goes away but cravings are what makes you go back. I would avoid taking them when you're upset. Opioids kill emotional pain just as well as physical pain and IME that's one of the fastest routes to a problem.
I find one filtration works just fine. Gently squeeze the last of the liquid out of the junk on the filter. If you don't have a habit a wash isn't really worth it but if you do you probably care more about getting every last microgram of opioid out and less about frying your liver.

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Liver is important to me...lol

Yeah, It takes forever on a single filter run through a coffee filter...I was gonna fold a paper towel 4 layers deep, wet it down, squeeze through there, then throw the paper towel filtered liquid through a coffee filter...is that overkill? I have 50ml water with the pills mixed in sitting in a salted ice bath at the moment...be ready to filter in about 10 minutes

Stirring it a little as it's going through to keep it from caking up the filter helps it go through faster. You can do a paper towel if you want but some liquid will be absorbed but I don't think you're too worried about loss from teh process.

They are very dangerous, don't kid yourself. Whether or not one bottle is going to catch you depends on the person. Be careful.

Ok...I guess i'm going to forego a secondary filtration through a coffee filter...The paper towel filtration is working exceptionally well, and even if I only removed HALF the APAP, it would be just under 1150mg, which i suppose is an acceptable dose for a single time...And I know I've removed way more than half the APAP with this single filtration. The clarity on the filtered liquid is exceptional, if not tinged slightly pink from the dye in the red speckles.

iconoclast, i know they're dangerous, but so are lots of recreational drugs. Moderation will be practiced. I've seen first hand my father become addicted to hydrocodone due to a back injury. I'm not trying to take it on a regular basis. What would you suggest? Toss the pills? I have 2 refills of 60 pills each, I feel like I could sell them or give them to someone who actually needs them.

Of course it would be illegal to extract hydrocodone from pills, so I'm just making this all up...lol

I would suggest giving them to a pain patient who actually needs them over selling them but I tend to be overly generous.
Getting all of the APAP out isn't super important. If you get 90% out you need to be taking some pretty large doses to be in any danger. The solubility of APAP in ice cold water is only 8mg/mL.

WAIT. if you are going to go down that road at all, pace yourself. You don't need over 30 mg at one time. I have been eating them on and off for 20 years now and I rarely need to take more than 30 mg all day in order to stay in a very nice place. The secret is in sensing your body's reactions and not overwhelming it. Are you satisfied with a couple of beers? maybe a third on the weekend or do you have to drain a 12 pack? Stay light and sense the euphoria, it doesn't have to overwhelm you. Keep them for the weekends, take them in the morning - early, on an empty stomach and then go out and do something. The real news is this - you have to take a lot, for a rather long time to get addicted to hydro and in my opinion it is the least addictive of the semisynthetics. I have had jars of them sitting on my refrigerator, that's a thousand 10's and they lasted me and my wife several years. Although I would love to have some now, I never felt any more slight flu like symptoms for a few days after even a long binge.

Still - everhyone is different and those most addicted just went a little further down the same road I did. I am no more strong or resistant to chemical lures than anyone else. Just set up some rules and stick by them and you will be fine.

You can take upwards of 4000 mgs of apap per day for short times , I limit myself to less then 3000 unless i'm in serious pain.you also should not take more then 1500 mg of apap at any time, taking 4 5/325's i would not even waste the time of cwe. cwe is for people with serious habits that have to take tons of pills to get there fix. You can also potentate the hydro with grapefruit juice . About 30 minutes before you plan to take the pills drink about 16 ounces of grapefruit juice. It turns the hydrocodone into the far more potent hydromorphone but you still get the euphoria of the hydrocodone . I would say if you did the grapefruit juice thing it would make 10 mg's feel like 15 mg . It is a good thing to know if your almost out and dont have your usual dose or if you want to make the script last longer. Stay safe

Grapefruit juice inhibits the enzyme which breaks it down into inactive norhydrocodone which means more of it gets converted to hydromorphone. Grapefruit juice will also potentiate morphine derivatives by slowing down their metabolism. If it just induced CYP2B6 it wouldn't do that.

As long as you are aware that they can be very addictive and damaging you are ahead of the curve. I was prescribed the same
dosage and quantity, withdrawal was hardly noticeable when I ran out. I have had to deal with addiction issues in the past as well.

A half a day of minor withdrawal may be worth not dealing with serious pain if they can help.

like cando said your taking too much. 1st time you dont need more than 15mg. dont do em more than 2 days in a row. like fri sat then recover sunday....

I'd take more than one day off between uses. More like a week or two. Addiction and catching a habit are different things.

yes agreed! also great for keeping the tolerance low.