hydrogen peroxide used throughout a grow .

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BUdbuddysmile

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wow you don't believe its the hp having any benifit for my plants that sucks i was sure it was . and im out a 1.00 $ and i still have a huge bottle man that was wastefull of me lmao
So, how was it helpful? You said faster germination and healthier sprouts. How? Im not being a jerk, I just don't see any reason in using it in a foliar. so lmao all you want. I am all about trying new things and experimenting but this just didn't sound right to me. You just havnt explained why very well.
 

Al B. Fuct

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So, how was it helpful? You said faster germination and healthier sprouts. How? Im not being a jerk, I just don't see any reason in using it in a foliar. so lmao all you want. I am all about trying new things and experimenting but this just didn't sound right to me. You just havnt explained why very well.
There is no benefit to use of H2O2 in a foliar spray. Zero.

Strangely enough, if someone really knows what they're talking about, they'll be able to describe extraordinarily complex phenomenae in a few simple sentences.

Every single aspect of growing cannabis is well known and is describable with previous scientific and botanical research. You can 'experiment' and 'try new things' if you are a university-level botanical scientist or organic chemist on the bleeding edge of research in the field. Oh, and by the way, spending a few hours on Google is NOT 'research.'

Anyone who wants you to believe that they've made a world-changing discovery in their basement should be treated with extreme skepticism. Actual leaps in science almost never happen like that and for good reason; real science is testable and replicatable by independent experimenters.

Dr Robert Park wrote a brilliant summation of nuttery in his piece "Seven Warning Signs of Bogus Science," which you should read, read again and read again until you can recite it from memory, but here's the gist:

1. The discoverer pitches the claim directly to the media.
2. The discoverer says that a powerful establishment is trying to suppress his or her work.
3. The scientific effect involved is always at the very limit of detection.
4. Evidence for a discovery is anecdotal
5. The discoverer says a belief is credible because it has endured for centuries.
6. The discoverer has worked in isolation.
7. The discoverer must propose new laws of nature to explain an observation.
The vast majority of people reading cannabis boards just want to successfully grow dope. It is not within their purview to work out how to turn unicorn poo into gold-plated cannabis buds.

If you want to learn how to grow dope, read about how experts who are successfully growing dope are doing it.

If you want to fuck up a grow, try a bunch of random shit with no particular clue what effect you're about to try will have, and when it fails, blame the Illuminati.
 

sorethumb

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well i dont use the paper towel method i sow them in potting soil. and knowing it takes days easy to germinate them. i used a little peroxide when watering them in. and they germinated almost over night within 24 hours. i have done this repeatly since. i also noticed full healthy looking stems and a 100% sucess none die. i use to lose some seedlings so i would plant a bunch to make sure some would make it. not one dies now it feeds them and useing any nutes in the first couple days is not recommended. so they grow pretty fast out of the seedling stage. i asked if anyone else used peroxide in this manner not if it was safe or needed. take some bagseed and see for yourself or dont . everyone wanted me to explain myself well there it is .im was not pushing the use of hp but for me and my seedlings its a cheap seed starter / fertilizer thats harmless imo. thanks for keeping this civil . and letting me explain later .
 

BUdbuddysmile

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There is no benefit to use of H2O2 in a foliar spray. Zero.

Strangely enough, if someone really knows what they're talking about, they'll be able to describe extraordinarily complex phenomenae in a few simple sentences.

Every single aspect of growing cannabis is well known and is describable with previous scientific and botanical research. You can 'experiment' and 'try new things' if you are a university-level botanical scientist or organic chemist on the bleeding edge of research in the field. Oh, and by the way, spending a few hours on Google is NOT 'research.'

Anyone who wants you to believe that they've made a world-changing discovery in their basement should be treated with extreme skepticism. Actual leaps in science almost never happen like that and for good reason; real science is testable and replicatable by independent experimenters.

Dr Robert Park wrote a brilliant summation of nuttery in his piece "Seven Warning Signs of Bogus Science," which you should read, read again and read again until you can recite it from memory, but here's the gist:



The vast majority of people reading cannabis boards just want to successfully grow dope. It is not within their purview to work out how to turn unicorn poo into gold-plated cannabis buds.

If you want to learn how to grow dope, read about how experts who are successfully growing dope are doing it.

If you want to fuck up a grow, try a bunch of random shit with no particular clue what effect you're about to try will have, and when it fails, blame the Illuminati.

What are some good resources that you recommend? Literature that is easier to decipher like you said.. complex but explained in simple terms.
 
Al B, the toxic chem man. Please could you spare me a moment of your time? Any advice on using non-food grade containers to grow in, such as Sterlite tubs for a dwc. Are they toxic to the plants? What is the difference between food grade and non-food grade plastic? I notice some bins have a strange plasticy/chemically smell and others not so much. Are the strong smelling ones the toxic?
 

sorethumb

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theres alot of evidence it works from alot of noteable scientists so why would i need to show it works plz lets see what other proof you got that it don't other then sodium stannate anything else you can't thats all you ever had . and im a lier because i say sodium stannate is not toxic they wouldn't use it in oraljel or teeth whiteing products if so but one site on the internet says it is toxic its posted here does not mean its true . remember real research is not done on google internet or in some guys basement but wheres it begin hows a scientist become a scientist . basements lol oh and only if you have a degree in the said fields so good luck .
 

Heisenberg

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theres alot of evidence it works from alot of noteable scientists so why would i need to show it works plz lets see what other proof you got that it don't other then sodium stannate anything else you can't thats all you ever had . and im a lier because i say sodium stannate is not toxic they wouldn't use it in oraljel or teeth whiteing products if so but one site on the internet says it is toxic its posted here does not mean its true . remember real research is not done on google internet or in some guys basement but wheres it begin hows a scientist become a scientist . basements lol oh and only if you have a degree in the said fields so good luck .
All you have demonstrated is post hoc confirmation bias and then attempted to shift burden of proof. You haven't even hinted at the mechanism or logic behind it. You have basically said, "this thing I randomly tried through some action I can not describe helped my plants by not obviously harming them." You haven't said anything meaningful.

You or anybody else are free to do whatever you like to your plants, but when you choose to speak here, you choose to be spoken to.
 

stormp

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Al B, the toxic chem man. Please could you spare me a moment of your time? Any advice on using non-food grade containers to grow in such as Sterlite tubs for a dwc. Are they toxic to the plants? What is the difference between food grade and non-food grade plastic? I notice some bins have a strange plasticy/chemically smell and others not so much. Are the strong smelling ones the toxic?
While i have no experience growing, i do have a lot of experience from aquariums, so take it for what it is worth.
There are so many things that can be in containers that are not food grade that you wouldn't want to introduce to a living organism. I have seen so many post on aqua forums where people have killed all their little fishies because of this.

I personally wouldn't use non food grade plastics in a grow setup.
 

sorethumb

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All you have demonstrated is post hoc confirmation bias and then attempted to shift burden of proof. You haven't even hinted at the mechanism or logic behind it. You have basically said, "this thing I randomly tried through some action I can not describe helped my plants by not obviously harming them." You haven't said anything meaningful.

You or anybody else are free to do whatever you like to your plants, but when you choose to speak here, you choose to be spoken to.
i wondered when you would pop in lol well heisen i have a qeustion since your here if i was wanting to use co2 would i need to explain why. we all know it gives your plants the extra carbon dioxide they breath . hp is in rain water this is why its way better then tap. but it gets polluted like alot of ppl here and never reaches the ground . famer's know this and have been adding diluted hp to increase crop yeilds im not a farmer or a scientist so i can't tell much more then this except its found to be a natural alternitive fertilizer thats safe enough for crops . i look forward to hear this responce thanks
 

Huel Perkins

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i wondered when you would pop in lol well heisen i have a qeustion since your here if i was wanting to use co2 would i need to explain why. we all know it gives your plants the extra carbon dioxide they breath . hp is in rain water this is why its way better then tap. but it gets polluted like alot of ppl here and never reaches the ground . famer's know this and have been adding diluted hp to increase crop yeilds im not a farmer or a scientist so i can't tell much more then this except its found to be a natural alternitive fertilizer thats safe enough for crops . i look forward to hear this responce thanks
No point in adding CO2 if you're chopping a bunch of your leaves off. Not trying to pick on you or argue with you on this topic, just google it and you'll see.
 

Heisenberg

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i wondered when you would pop in lol well heisen i have a qeustion since your here if i was wanting to use co2 would i need to explain why. we all know it gives your plants the extra carbon dioxide they breath . hp is in rain water this is why its way better then tap. but it gets polluted like alot of ppl here and never reaches the ground . famer's know this and have been adding diluted hp to increase crop yeilds im not a farmer or a scientist so i can't tell much more then this except its found to be a natural alternitive fertilizer thats safe enough for crops . i look forward to hear this responce thanks
Arguing with a 3 y/o
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sorethumb

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Arguing with a 3 y/o
[video=youtube;hOE_MGaWwQE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOE_MGaWwQE[/video][/QUOT all you deminstated is that your the 3 y/o . you told me that i deminstrated a post hoc confirmation and that i had said nothing of any meaning or logic . then i asked you this if someone wants to use co2. in there grow would they need to explain why. everyone knows about co2 and its not needed it just helps. thats how i feel about hp it helps anyone ever noticed after a good storm that your outside plant's look awesome hp does that. im sorry riu im always createing drama here with my threads
 

sorethumb

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No point in adding CO2 if you're chopping a bunch of your leaves off. Not trying to pick on you or argue with you on this topic, just google it and you'll see.
lol i was stateing a point . co2 is something you really dont need in a grow .like hp but we know it works just the same yet still i explained its no different then rain water chemically . and i dont really take alot i take what i need to take off im using t5's and about 300 watts total so i use it the best i can and take any advantage there is
 

Huel Perkins

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lol i was stateing a point . co2 is something you really dont need in a grow .like hp but we know it works just the same yet still i explained its no different then rain water chemically . and i dont really take alot i take what i need to take off im using t5's and about 300 watts total so i use it the best i can and take any advantage there is
Last time i checked CO2 was just as essential as light and water, so yeah, you really need it...
 

Domed

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When you NEED to use hydrogen peroxide, use it.
It fixes big problems and barely harms it anything else.
 

sorethumb

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Last time i checked CO2 was just as essential as light and water, so yeah, you really need it...
um no you really dont need it. they get it naturally never said it didn't help either . it's not water you can grow plants without it . is that better huey .lmao
 

Huel Perkins

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um no you really dont need it. they get it naturally never said it didn't help either . it's not water you can grow plants without it . is that better huey .lmao
Yes, CO2 is absolutely needed. I never said you have to add it yourself but CO2 is absolutely essential for photosynthesis to happen and for plant life in general. This was all part of elementary school science class...
 
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