Hydrogen Proxide

this stuff is horrible to use, the fumes will burn you, lol
i would be careful with it , use it once so you can say you have used it, then never buy it again
you really dont need it

What about 3% in hydro 2 cups at rez change to 25gl rez every 2wks is it a waste of time?
They say to add 5cps but i'm afraid to add that much.
 
Beans I really liked your eyeball picture from before... whered it go?

I think the less is more philosophy works with H2O2, don't go overboard on it.

I personally(as mentioned before) think it does little to provide oxygen, and root rot prevention is its real adantage, you dont need to use alot to achieve this. If your using an airstone, your water should already have plenty of oxygen anyways
 
Beans I really liked your eyeball picture from before... whered it go?

I think the less is more philosophy works with H2O2, don't go overboard on it.

I personally(as mentioned before) think it does little to provide oxygen, and root rot prevention is its real adantage, you dont need to use alot to achieve this. If your using an airstone, your water should already have plenty of oxygen anyways

Ahaha Dill that was my daughters eye with a tear running out of it.I tried to make it smaller but pcs kick my ass i'm still learning,didn't have these things when i was growing up.I wish they would have.
Maybe i'll put it back on.

Peace my friend
 
All that article did was try to convince me I should be drinking H2O2

It mentions that some farmers use it on their crops with success and suggests a concentration to be used... But gives no mention as to whether it can or cannot harm beneficials in the soil. I'm not trying to be ignorant, but I think many growers have already demonstrated that H2O2 will hurt the beneficials and should not be used in soil. So what good does the information in that article do me?

You have to keep in mind that in science, knowledge is found in leaps and bounds but that doesn't mean it's always instantly indisputable. It takes years for things to be proven without a doubt, so yes there is still some room for controversy. Beneficials are also not lumped together into one nice, neat, organized "beneficials" class like you're making them. Individual bacteria/fungi species have individual tolerances for heat, moisture, chemical presence, etc. No different than anything else in this world.

Just because that article didn't specify what bacteria are resistant vs sensitive to it doesn't mean there isn't good information there. Most of what I've learned about growing (especially online) has been learned while searching for the answer to something completely different. Advances in agriculture, biology, and chemistry aren't made because leading researchers hate on every shred of info presented in an at least somewhat scholarly manner simply because they have a premonition about the subject based on their friends' "concept" or "theory". Especially stuff from a site like this where somebody who has yet to make it to harvest will tell everyone else that they suck as a grower and they should pick off the tops of their buds to induce more bud sites.....
 
You have to keep in mind that in science, knowledge is found in leaps and bounds but that doesn't mean it's always instantly indisputable. It takes years for things to be proven without a doubt, so yes there is still some room for controversy. Beneficials are also not lumped together into one nice, neat, organized "beneficials" class like you're making them. Individual bacteria/fungi species have individual tolerances for heat, moisture, chemical presence, etc. No different than anything else in this world.

Just because that article didn't specify what bacteria are resistant vs sensitive to it doesn't mean there isn't good information there. Most of what I've learned about growing (especially online) has been learned while searching for the answer to something completely different. Advances in agriculture, biology, and chemistry aren't made because leading researchers hate on every shred of info presented in an at least somewhat scholarly manner simply because they have a premonition about the subject based on their friends' "concept" or "theory". Especially stuff from a site like this where somebody who has yet to make it to harvest will tell everyone else that they suck as a grower and they should pick off the tops of their buds to induce more bud sites.....

The reason I didn't want to read it is because I was accused of giving out false information without doing any research, and then given a link that did not expand on what I had already said, other than suggesting farmers have used it with success and here's how much they used...

My original post was to give a simple guideline on what H2O2 is good for, and isnt good for. I'll restate my original point.

It is unlikely that H2O2 is capable of providing oxygen in any large amount to the roots of a plant(in a hydropic water medium that should already be well oxygenated).
H2O2 can kill microscopic life whether it is beneficial or non beneficial.
In small doses it will not harm the roots. Therefore in mediums that cannot support beneficials H2O2 can be utilized to prevent the growth of non-beneficials and keep the medium clean. I am not a chemist, however these are very simple guidelines to using H2O2, even a newb like myself can figure this out, and I don't need to read about some hokey pokey medicinal use of H2O2 to find out if I'm right or not. I don't see where the invitation for insult was given

Does any of that sound like advising people to chop the tops off their plants?
 
Actually, the main part of that article that interested me had to do with ozone breakdown and how H2O2 is naturally occurring in rainwater which has been proven to grow heartier plants.

And that's why farmers gave it a try.

I will admit, I misread your original post where you were saying that a small amount of 35% H2O2 wouldn't provide much of an O2 boost... depending on the size of the rez, 1mL may not be enough, but the breakdown of the H2O2 is most definitely releasing a measurable amount of O2.

The other item in that article that I found interesting is that 35% FOOD GRADE is the only kind recommended for ingestion as the others have preservatives in them.
 
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