Hydroponics Question and Answer NewGrowth Style

NewGrowth

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ok i got the pic how do i upload it to this site
Click "manage attachments" and upload your pics.

any way its not hidro they are basically house plants i took the males for a friend and he has no idea whats goin on wit it. it was in a room till a couple days ago when we discoverd its male and none of the females that where in the same room are doing that
Then no problem right? Unless you want seeds . . .:peace:
 

GypsyBush

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Hey NG...

I am always lost anyways, so I figured I'd tell you that I Love You...

And thanks for doing this....:clap::clap::clap:

I've been watching from day one...:weed:

Kick ass man... thanks!!!

Gypsy...:o
 

NewGrowth

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its not a very good pic and i already took of most of the damaged leafs
Yellowing moving up the plant? Likely nitrogen deficient. If the leaves are not eventually turning yellow completely then is could be something else. From your pic the leaves are developing chlorosis (yellowing) in between the veins, if that is the case then you could be looking at a micronutrient problem. Don't run off and buy epson salts yet though! MOST micronutrient problems are caused by a pH problem preventing proper uptake. What is your water and soil pH?

Hey NG...

I am always lost anyways, so I figured I'd tell you that I Love You...

And thanks for doing this....:clap::clap::clap:

I've been watching from day one...:weed:

Kick ass man... thanks!!!

Gypsy...:o
I love you too Gypsy, thanks. I really should get a camera. I don't have pics of my previous ops for obvious reasons. But when I set up my next indoor I want to do a full photo documentary for RIU. From grow room construction to harvest. :weed:
 

Bullethead21

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Hey NewGrowth-

YOu remember you gave me this advice a few days ago...

This one I can answer . . .
1. Place seeds between two layers of damp paper towel
2. Place this is a plastic bag to retain moisture
3. Place in a warm spot
4. As soon as the seeds crack usually 24-48 hours place them in the pH adjusted rockwool cubes
5. Ensure the cubes are damp not wet
6. Seedlings should show in 24-48 hrs some plants are slower . . .


Welp, just to let ya know it worked like a champ!

I was wondering if you would post step 7 and continue please sir....

I have a cracked seedling in a rw cube all snug in hydroton rocks in the net basket in the Bubbleponics. I have a few other plants in there so I have the baby covered with a lid made of thick cardboard and reflective duct tape to keep him in the dark.

He has now stuck his little head up through the rw cube and is about to unfold those first 2 leaves.

Should I leave him in the dark for a few days? Or should i put a dome over him for a few days now? If so about how long ya think?

Thanks a bunch!
 

NewGrowth

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Hey NewGrowth-

YOu remember you gave me this advice a few days ago...

This one I can answer . . .
1. Place seeds between two layers of damp paper towel
2. Place this is a plastic bag to retain moisture
3. Place in a warm spot
4. As soon as the seeds crack usually 24-48 hours place them in the pH adjusted rockwool cubes
5. Ensure the cubes are damp not wet
6. Seedlings should show in 24-48 hrs some plants are slower . . .


Welp, just to let ya know it worked like a champ!

I was wondering if you would post step 7 and continue please sir....

I have a cracked seedling in a rw cube all snug in hydroton rocks in the net basket in the Bubbleponics. I have a few other plants in there so I have the baby covered with a lid made of thick cardboard and reflective duct tape to keep him in the dark.

He has now stuck his little head up through the rw cube and is about to unfold those first 2 leaves.

Should I leave him in the dark for a few days? Or should i put a dome over him for a few days now? If so about how long ya think?

Thanks a bunch!
Go ahead a put it under your lights. You can remove the humidity dome too. Just make sure the rockwool does not get too dry while you plants are small. :peace:
 

Bullethead21

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Even though they are HID lights? Not sure I ever specified or if it will even make a difference anyhow, One 400w HPS and one 400w MH each with thier own ballast in a 10 sq foot area. Half the room is soil and the other half is a Bubbleponics "side" so to speak though it is not official by wife just yet, but we are close I think...lol

We grow veggies in soil and herbs also in the Bubbleponics and I want to try other seeds varieties as well.

Thanks again NewGrowth!
 

NewGrowth

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Even though they are HID lights? Not sure I ever specified or if it will even make a difference anyhow, One 400w HPS and one 400w MH each with thier own ballast in a 10 sq foot area. Half the room is soil and the other half is a Bubbleponics "side" so to speak though it is not official by wife just yet, but we are close I think...lol

We grow veggies in soil and herbs also in the Bubbleponics and I want to try other seeds varieties as well.

Thanks again NewGrowth!
Seedlings will do fine under HID light. Just make sure the lights are far enough away not to burn them.
 

Bullethead21

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Thanks bud!

Got some Pure Blend Pro "Grow" and the "Liquid Karma" and the Pure Blend "Bloom" kit. It was a small 8oz bottle of each so since Im new I thought i would try at least some of this stuff.

Anyone use this stuff before or have any feedback?

What do you use again New Growth? As for nutrients?
 

NewGrowth

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Thanks bud!

Got some Pure Blend Pro "Grow" and the "Liquid Karma" and the Pure Blend "Bloom" kit. It was a small 8oz bottle of each so since Im new I thought i would try at least some of this stuff.

Anyone use this stuff before or have any feedback?

What do you use again New Growth? As for nutrients?
I use Ionic brand nutrients. The Pure Blend product line contains organic compounds that are not compatible with h202.
 

Bullethead21

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Thats go to know, Thanks! I wonder if this Physon 20 is any better and kinda does the same thing but better that h202? Have any evperience with that stuff?

I was hoping to get the wife to try the Pure Blend products on her soil plants ( I read a journal here where that is all the guy used and his plants and they turned out awsome!). Im trying to wing her off the MG time release crap with the little balls of death in them....I mean nutrients that are suppose to be time release. She promises to not use it anymore so Im getting her some clean fox farm soil or something...she will do soil and Ill do Hydro maybe....hehe
 

NewGrowth

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Thats go to know, Thanks! I wonder if this Physon 20 is any better and kinda does the same thing but better that h202? Have any evperience with that stuff?

I was hoping to get the wife to try the Pure Blend products on her soil plants ( I read a journal here where that is all the guy used and his plants and they turned out awsome!). Im trying to wing her off the MG time release crap with the little balls of death in them....I mean nutrients that are suppose to be time release. She promises to not use it anymore so Im getting her some clean fox farm soil or something...she will do soil and Ill do Hydro maybe....hehe
I have never used that product I have used other enzyme based products. They are not nearly as effective as H202. I reserve organic gardening to soil, hydroponics is best suited for chemical nutrients. A good chemical nutrient will dissolve readily in water, provide a superior pH buffer, and be readily available for plant uptake. With chemical nutes the reservoir can also be sterilized with H202 reducing the risk for root disease, and aerobic bacteria robbing roots of available oxygen.
It just makes sense chemicals for hydro
Organics for soil.
 

Bullethead21

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Sounds logical to me....the SH nutrients and h202 combo seems to be working well so far. Its slowly clearing up the browness in the root of that one plant. I did drain and clean and steralize the tank twice then went back with regular ph'd water, then added 1/4 nuts strength and about 1/6 teaspoon of 3% peroxide per gallon of water(6 gallons total).

SHe has been running on that since last night. So far so go, got a little plant growth on top and rot growth on bottom and everything looks nice and green (knock on wood)!

Thanks bud!
 

.:SEXISTONER:.

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hey thnks for ur help but i found out that is it just a diffrent kind of plant. cause now it looks healthy but the whole thing is turning a lighter color. we have a few females that are doing the same thing and the ph levels are normal.
 

flipsidesw

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Hey NewGrowth,

After getting my botanicare 3'x3'x7" flood table and thier 6" pots (3.338 euro gal.) I notice that i can only flood about 4" of the pot, a lil less than half the height of the pot. Is that normal? I understand that the nutrients will wick up the clay pebbles.
 

NewGrowth

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Hey NewGrowth,

After getting my botanicare 3'x3'x7" flood table and thier 6" pots (3.338 euro gal.) I notice that i can only flood about 4" of the pot, a lil less than half the height of the pot. Is that normal? I understand that the nutrients will wick up the clay pebbles.
Not really a problem unless you have small clones. If you are concerned just put your clones a little lower in the pots and fill around them with hydroton. Water level should come to about 2" below the cube.
 

Secret Grower

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Hey NG. I'm using Ionic Growth right now my plants are 2 red diesels and 2 blue cheeses they are 2.5 weeks old. My ph is 5.8 and ec is 2.6 my tap water has a ppm of 550. The lower leaves had some heat stress at first as well as some nute burn I think. I have changed my reservoir at 2 weeks when the ph rose to 6.3. I hear you talking about a two part ionic series. Do you mean the Ionic Growth and the Ionic Bloom? Do you use the Boost?

Any comments on the plants would be greatly appreciated.:hump:

Thanks man you ROCK!!!!:peace::joint::peace:
 

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marchold

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I have a question for you NG,
I have about 15 plants growing in coco in a ebb/flow tray under a 400w HPS. I also have 5 55w LED panels and 200w of CFL. I let my plants veg a little extra long to get a better yield. Right now several of my plants are growing up along side (above) the HPS light. I have been bending the plants as much as I can. I have a screen about 1' from my light which is behind glass with a slow air flow from computer fans.
My question is should I cut back the plants that are too big. Right now I have been adding a few 20w or 40w CFL's in the corners of the closet. I also added a 90w UFO to grow plants under the air duct. I will be harvesting in about 1 1/2 months. I can try and bend them a bit more under the 400w HPS but if I cram too many plants under it the screen becomes a solid mass of leaves and blocks the light from the farher plants. It seems like the best thing is to let them grow and I will get good dense buds under the HPS and some not so good stuff under the rest. I am not sure if the whole batch will be less potent and maybe I would produce more THC by cutting back my plants so they fit under the 400w?

I also have an unused 4 4ft T5 hood that is not used now. But adding it seems like too much light for a 3x4x5 closet.

Thanks
 

NewGrowth

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Hey NG. I'm using Ionic Growth right now my plants are 2 red diesels and 2 blue cheeses they are 2.5 weeks old. My ph is 5.8 and ec is 2.6 my tap water has a ppm of 550. The lower leaves had some heat stress at first as well as some nute burn I think. I have changed my reservoir at 2 weeks when the ph rose to 6.3. I hear you talking about a two part ionic series. Do you mean the Ionic Growth and the Ionic Bloom? Do you use the Boost?
Any comments on the plants would be greatly appreciated.:hump:
Thanks man you ROCK!!!!:peace::joint::peace:

Your e.c is WAY too high!!! 2.6=1820 ppm! Those plants are WAY too small for such high nutrient concentrations. I also hear that cheese is one of those coiunisuer "sensisitive strains". Back you ppm down to 500 and go from there . . .
1.Water level drops PPM goes up: Drop your nutrient strength in relationship to the PPM rise.
2. Water level drops PPM stays the same: You may be able to fine tune you nutrient strength, if growth is vigorous leave it alone.
3. Water level drops PPM drops: Raise you nutrient strength in relationship too PPM drop.


I highlight that because that is your plants literally telling you how many nutes they want. You can achieve maximum nutrient economy (don't have to buy as many nutes) this way and at the same time achieve maximum plant growth and yield.

I have use boost mid flowering with some high yielding "bumper crop" type strains that benefit from the extra P-K. Most of the time it is not needed. :peace:

I have a question for you NG,
I have about 15 plants growing in coco in a ebb/flow tray under a 400w HPS. I also have 5 55w LED panels and 200w of CFL. I let my plants veg a little extra long to get a better yield. Right now several of my plants are growing up along side (above) the HPS light. I have been bending the plants as much as I can. I have a screen about 1' from my light which is behind glass with a slow air flow from computer fans.
My question is should I cut back the plants that are too big. Right now I have been adding a few 20w or 40w CFL's in the corners of the closet. I also added a 90w UFO to grow plants under the air duct. I will be harvesting in about 1 1/2 months. I can try and bend them a bit more under the 400w HPS but if I cram too many plants under it the screen becomes a solid mass of leaves and blocks the light from the farher plants. It seems like the best thing is to let them grow and I will get good dense buds under the HPS and some not so good stuff under the rest. I am not sure if the whole batch will be less potent and maybe I would produce more THC by cutting back my plants so they fit under the 400w?

I also have an unused 4 4ft T5 hood that is not used now. But adding it seems like too much light for a 3x4x5 closet.

Thanks
If you can add the T5 the plant will benefit trust me. Do you have any pics of this crazy plant under all these lights? I would just let it grow use the little buds for making a shit load of bubble hash.:weed: Don't cut back for sure this plant is a work of art. :peace:
 
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