Hydroponics Question and Answer NewGrowth Style

NewGrowth

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im gunna be using a hydrofarm megagarden. i wanted to know how i should have them in my tray. in pots with rock wool and hydroton or just big 4"x4" rockwool blocks just in the tray, till the roots get too big and i would put them on coco slabs
Either way will work both media's have positive and negative attributes. Hydroton will need to be flooded more often but if you get the schedule right it will provide superior rootzone aeration. Rockwool and hydroton are also compatible with H202 Coco coir is not. Large rockwool blocks will hold more water for longer periods requiring them to be flooded less often. Coco coir provides superior air/water ratio and is near impossible to overwater. The organic material will often break off and clog up pumps in a flood system.

Hydroton in pots will also allow you to move your plants around and prevent root entanglement. With coir and large block you can achieve higher plant density if you are going for a SOG.

So it is really dependent on your style, personal preferences and what you are comfortable with. Good luck! :peace:
 

doniawon

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NWGRWTH, ?? I AM GOIN GOING TO BE SETTING UP A 20 FT BY 10 FT SPACE, IN A FRIENDS HOUSE AND HE DOESNT SMOKE AND HAS NEVER GROWN ANYTHING..
i WANTED TO SET UP THE EASIEST MATIENCE FREE ROOM POSSIBLE.. SO I WAS THINKING THE EBB AND GRO SYSTEM AND FLORA NOVA NUTRIENTS.. HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SYSTEM?? AND DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON AN EASIER SYSTEM WITH GOOD RESULTS..
 

NewGrowth

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NWGRWTH, ?? I AM GOIN GOING TO BE SETTING UP A 20 FT BY 10 FT SPACE, IN A FRIENDS HOUSE AND HE DOESNT SMOKE AND HAS NEVER GROWN ANYTHING..
i WANTED TO SET UP THE EASIEST MATIENCE FREE ROOM POSSIBLE.. SO I WAS THINKING THE EBB AND GRO SYSTEM AND FLORA NOVA NUTRIENTS.. HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SYSTEM?? AND DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON AN EASIER SYSTEM WITH GOOD RESULTS..
Lowest maintenance? Why not just do with soil? Or if you are insistent on hydro, use coco-coir in grow bags.
 

GypsyBush

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Hi NG...

How goes it...?

Just stopping by to share what RIU has allowed me to achieve...:clap:

Here is a current look at things...









An Indica that made it's way in with the Sativas...



And the Veg area with the moms, clones and a few edibles...:weed:


 

GypsyBush

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Looks great gypsy! Big jump from that original AG.
Thanks... It's been hard, with my leg all fucked up and all... and I am not done yet... there is a lot of tweaking to be done still...

But my blood, sweat, tears and PAIN have paid off...

The Gypster is HAPPY...!!!! :bigjoint:
 

doniawon

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gypsy,,,, you keep on keepin on .. your sog is way on point and your love for it is asperational.. (yah probably didnt spell that right).. your gonna win me over i think no doubt..
New i just bought the ebb and gro with two add on's.. 24site.. ill post pics in about a month on that one.. got the flora nova and meters .. hydro is all i know so??? had to do it.. did see the new hydrofarm coco bags 2 gal.. just scared of the trial and error of soil (soilless) wanted the growth rates.. thanks for the sug.. also i got a bunch of stuff free from the hydro store today for the donation.. i got 30 + 3.5 net cups and i was thinking of converting a rubbermaid underbed storage conainer into a dwc aero combo.. would this work .. any suggestions on the design .. i have never used aero or dwc and have never really made one..

any and all info apprecihhhhhd
 

NewGrowth

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I tried to build a "low profile" DWC system with one of those under bed storage containers. It was problematic, maintaining correct water level was tricky and the small reservoir size caused a lot of flux in Ph, PPM, ect. For homemade stuff I would stick with the larger tubs.
 

doniawon

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what would you do with these net cups?? i use hydroton and i use 30 plants per cycle.. i only see my room once a week so i need low maint.. room size is 8x8 8ft. ceilings>>> what are some of the problems with dwc in large tubs?? some things to look for etc..
 

karlt2005

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hi newgrowth keeping up the good work i see! i have added nutrients to my seedlings lowered the light they are looking really good, i was just wondering when should i bump my ppm? its at 400 now but i dont know what to do! should i raise it slowly or just put it upto say 800 what do you recomend i do? cheers man keep up the good work!!!
 

NewGrowth

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what would you do with these net cups?? i use hydroton and i use 30 plants per cycle.. i only see my room once a week so i need low maint.. room size is 8x8 8ft. ceilings>>> what are some of the problems with dwc in large tubs?? some things to look for etc..
I would install a battery back-up to run air pumps incase of a power out especially since you will only see the room once a week. I would also install float valves attached to a larger reservoir to maintain proper water levels this is vital for smaller plants. I just don't think DWC is well suited for large scale ops. Something close would be a dutch bucket system but this is more suited for LARGE plants not a SOG.



hi newgrowth keeping up the good work i see! i have added nutrients to my seedlings lowered the light they are looking really good, i was just wondering when should i bump my ppm? its at 400 now but i dont know what to do! should i raise it slowly or just put it upto say 800 what do you recomend i do? cheers man keep up the good work!!!
We were discussing this earlier, just monitor your ppm levels and growth rates and follow these rules. Best indicator is ALWAYS plant health and vigor. No need to waste nutrients :mrgreen:

1.Water level drops PPM goes up: Drop your nutrient strength in relationship to the PPM rise.
2. Water level drops PPM stays the same: You may be able to fine tune you nutrient strength, if growth is vigorous leave it alone.
3. Water level drops PPM drops: Raise you nutrient strength in relationship too PPM drop.
 

karlt2005

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cheers pal that makes so much sense now, another question i have been watering 3 times a day during the day light hours my babies look over watered how often should i water? my rock wool is always dripping when i pick it up i know this is too much water and can cause problems, there on 18/6 whats the best watering schedule????????? again ty and keep up the good work............
 

NewGrowth

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cheers pal that makes so much sense now, another question i have been watering 3 times a day during the day light hours my babies look over watered how often should i water? my rock wool is always dripping when i pick it up i know this is too much water and can cause problems, there on 18/6 whats the best watering schedule????????? again ty and keep up the good work............
Depends on the size of the plants and rockwool. If your rockwool is always soaked cut back to two times or even one for large cubes. A little drying is good it draws oxygen into the rootzone and promotes downward root growth.
 

karlt2005

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the rockwool is 4x4x2 and the plants are only 2 weeks old, so ill try once a day and just watch they dont dry too fast thanks dude
 

CannabisCloset

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i have used gh 3 part (and monsterbloom for most of flowering) several times had pretty good results with it and i just started using ionic grow and greenfuse and i am going to try the ionic bloom greenfuse. Also


ebb 2x 6 gal res
ph 5.8 to 6.4
640 w hps
3ft x 3ft x 8ft

i want what every one whats better yield

so first can i use monsterbloom AND ionic bloom AND greenfuse or should i only use both ionic products

any sugestions on beefing up my flowers?

and i havent been able to put an end to myth or truth about

:?:koolaid ?? = flavor is so when how much so on

:?:molasas ?? flavor? smell? taste? when and how much

also H202 is that just good for plants in general or roots flowering veg?

thank you for any or all reaplies
 

karlt2005

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also dude i have just ordered a humidifier online but it wont come till monday my humidity is low im misting my young ones to keep the moisture up but i know its way too low. i dont know what my humidity is because my electronic temp/humidity meter the humditity does not read for some reason? to cut a long boarning story short lol what tips have you got to keep my humidity up!!! cheers man
 

NewGrowth

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i have used gh 3 part (and monsterbloom for most of flowering) several times had pretty good results with it and i just started using ionic grow and greenfuse and i am going to try the ionic bloom greenfuse. Also


ebb 2x 6 gal res
ph 5.8 to 6.4
640 w hps
3ft x 3ft x 8ft

i want what every one whats better yield

so first can i use monsterbloom AND ionic bloom AND greenfuse or should i only use both ionic products
I'm sure you could but, why? Seems like a waste, plants can only utilize so many nutrients using extra just costs money.

any sugestions on beefing up my flowers?
Clones or seed? I plant 20-30 seeds and select a few mothers out of that only the best are kept. Fast and dense growth means more buds.

and i havent been able to put an end to myth or truth about
Ok here we go . . .

:?:koolaid ?? = flavor is so when how much so on
Myth, save the koolaid for drinking

:?:molasas ?? flavor? smell? taste? when and how much
Please leave this out of hydro, just causes problems

also H202 is that just good for plants in general or roots flowering veg?
Yep 35% @ 1.7ml/L will keep your reservoir nice and clean it will also provide more oxygen to the rootzone. It can be used throughout your grow however it is not compatible with anything organic.

thank you for any or all reaplies
For sure, thanks for stopping by :peace:

do you find that hydro is better than dirt
No, depends on what you like. Hydro is generally faster so plants grow faster and die faster. Hydro gives you a bit more control but is also less forgiving.

also dude i have just ordered a humidifier online but it wont come till monday my humidity is low im misting my young ones to keep the moisture up but i know its way too low. i dont know what my humidity is because my electronic temp/humidity meter the humditity does not read for some reason? to cut a long boarning story short lol what tips have you got to keep my humidity up!!! cheers man
Humidifier is best but misting works and so does containers of water just sitting out. If you live in a climate as dry as mine you will not be able to get it much over 38-40%. Not a huge deal a low humidity is actually desirable during flower.
 

Ramon66

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hey NEWGROWTH. I got a quick question for you. I have learned a ton with your help along with trial and error.
my question is this. is it possible to achieve 5-6' plants using 3gal buckets with hydroton. I have them staked just in case they want to lean, but will there be enough room for root development for a plant that size?
 
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