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NewGrowth

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hey NEWGROWTH. I got a quick question for you. I have learned a ton with your help along with trial and error.
my question is this. is it possible to achieve 5-6' plants using 3gal buckets with hydroton. I have them staked just in case they want to lean, but will there be enough room for root development for a plant that size?
I doubt a 6 foot plant would do to well in a three gallon bucket. Check out dutch bucket systems for larger plants.
 

doniawon

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NEW?? i treated my plants with bushmaster and it burned the shit out of them.. now im getting the new growth after I flushed... the "new growth" has tiny leaves that are really skinny and they are curling at the tops.. i will get some pics up tonight... but im pissed cause .. well youll see later.. .what is the reason for the skinny tiny leaves ??? i think the curl if from overwatering? i cut the drip cycles down .. any help appreciated
 

NewGrowth

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NEW?? i treated my plants with bushmaster and it burned the shit out of them.. now im getting the new growth after I flushed... the "new growth" has tiny leaves that are really skinny and they are curling at the tops.. i will get some pics up tonight... but im pissed cause .. well youll see later.. .what is the reason for the skinny tiny leaves ??? i think the curl if from overwatering? i cut the drip cycles down .. any help appreciated
From what I have heard bushmaster is really strong and should be used in much lower doses than those recommended on the bottle. I would assume the deformation is also due to the bushmaster. The other possibility is a Ph problem. Hope they get better, good luck bro. :peace:
 

polishfalcon420

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hey newgrowth great thread lots of great info. I am planning an ebb and flow setup. I was looking at the bigfoot lowprofile setup. any thoughts on what is capable with this setup? number and plant size? my ceilings are only 6.5ft tall. what do you suggest for lights? I have a 1000w hortilux mh and hps but Im not sure about using them with the height issue. I only want to grow like 10-15 plants if possble. I will have to start from seed. is the 1000w overkill?
 

doniawon

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still no pics sorry.. always forget my damn camera... but them things broke out of it and shot up half a foot it seems in overnight!!!!!!!!!!! the new growth is lime green and proper sized finally .. this is my first time with co2 and i can see the difference finally.. yea.. doubt ill mess with bushmaster again
 

Bublonichronic

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Yo NewGrowth ima total Idiot but i was thinking about trying a cheap hydro grow next what do you think the best DIY set up for me is and do you think you could give me a quick run down on exactly how it works:leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

NewGrowth

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still no pics sorry.. always forget my damn camera... but them things broke out of it and shot up half a foot it seems in overnight!!!!!!!!!!! the new growth is lime green and proper sized finally .. this is my first time with co2 and i can see the difference finally.. yea.. doubt ill mess with bushmaster again
Nice glad to hear. From what people have told me bushmaster works best as a mild foliar spray and only at certain times. I just have not personal experience with it.

hey newgrowth great thread lots of great info. I am planning an ebb and flow setup. I was looking at the bigfoot lowprofile setup. any thoughts on what is capable with this setup? number and plant size? my ceilings are only 6.5ft tall. what do you suggest for lights? I have a 1000w hortilux mh and hps but Im not sure about using them with the height issue. I only want to grow like 10-15 plants if possble. I will have to start from seed. is the 1000w overkill?
I don't think 1000w is overkill what are the dimensions of your space? I have never heard of bigfoot do you have a link?

Yo NewGrowth ima total Idiot but i was thinking about trying a cheap hydro grow next what do you think the best DIY set up for me is and do you think you could give me a quick run down on exactly how it works:leaf::leaf::leaf:
I would go with a simple DWC set up. A google search on home made DWC should give you some good examples.

DWC (Deep Water Culture) means the roots are suspended in an aerated nutrient solution. Is consists of a tub and an air-stone.
 

polishfalcon420

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I found the bigfoot low pro setup on 4hydroponics.com in the ebb n flow section. my room dimensions are 6x6 with 6.5 ceilings. I could make the room larger but the ceilings are my drawback. I like heaths vert grow setup but think its a lot of work for the low number of plants.
 

NewGrowth

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I found the bigfoot low pro setup on 4hydroponics.com in the ebb n flow section. my room dimensions are 6x6 with 6.5 ceilings. I could make the room larger but the ceilings are my drawback. I like heaths vert grow setup but think its a lot of work for the low number of plants.
I have done 1000watts in a small space like that. The major problem is heat control. It is impossible to do without a cool tube and some good fans pulling air through the space. Vertical set-ups are nice I like Heath's too, maybe you could pack more into that space doing that . . . .
 

polishfalcon420

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on the DWC subject I have seen people that just airate the nute solution and others that do this also with a water pump running the solution to the medium in the net pot. is it beneficial or necessary to do this. I was looking at the bucket style with just the air pump. is it efficiant and how much of a pain is it to maintain? I am new to the hydro thing and dont want things to get to complicated. it seems that maintaining water level and resevoir changes could be a pain, or is it simpler than I am suggesting?
 

NewGrowth

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on the DWC subject I have seen people that just airate the nute solution and others that do this also with a water pump running the solution to the medium in the net pot. is it beneficial or necessary to do this. I was looking at the bucket style with just the air pump. is it efficiant and how much of a pain is it to maintain? I am new to the hydro thing and dont want things to get to complicated. it seems that maintaining water level and resevoir changes could be a pain, or is it simpler than I am suggesting?
THe additional drip lines are a marketing scheme and are unnecessary, unless you are referring to dutch bucket system which is not really DWC.

Buckets with just the air pump are simple and very easy to maintain. Reservoir changes are made easy by the lids that fit right into any 5gal bucket. All you have to do is mix up a solution in a spare bucket, pull out the plant and air stone, transfer to the new bucket.

Often VERY large plants are grown in buckets.:weed:
 

polishfalcon420

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could you fit 6 smaller plants in like a 20g tub without issue? then I could just setup 2 tubs with 6 each. how tall would the said bucket or tub have to be for proper root growth? by the way man thanks for the info.
 

NewGrowth

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could you fit 6 smaller plants in like a 20g tub without issue? then I could just setup 2 tubs with 6 each. how tall would the said bucket or tub have to be for proper root growth? by the way man thanks for the info.
Yes you could do this. I have done it for a med patient, it was a perpetual SOG using four 18g rubbermaid totes with 10 plants each. Roots space is not much of an issue, I suppose the tubs are about 24" tall give or take. Clones were flowered at 6-8".

The set-up was not pure DWC but a aeroponic fog/DWC cross. The tubs were filled a little over half way with nutrient solution and a floating fogger was placed in each. Growth rates were amazing in that fog.
 

polishfalcon420

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sweet, what size air pump did you use in the 18g? and how did you divide the light cycle in the sog? did you have plants in both the veg and flower stage in the same area or did you seperate them? probably sounds stupid but just thought I would ask.
 

NewGrowth

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sweet, what size air pump did you use in the 18g? and how did you divide the light cycle in the sog? did you have plants in both the veg and flower stage in the same area or did you seperate them? probably sounds stupid but just thought I would ask.
I used those submersible air-pumps. I started him off with a batch of auto flowers, I made his other closet into a space for clones and to keep mothers on 18/6 light cycle.
 

TheSalesman

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I too would like to know what air pump is recommended for a 18 gallon res. I am just waiting on my seeds, but I got a pump rated for 20 gallon with a dual outlet going to two 1' airstones and a smaller pump rated at 15 gallons pushing a small 6" stone.

Not sure if that will be enough. If not, will attaching the stones to the side of the container do better?

Also, what do you recommend for preparing tap water. I've read leave it out for a week and maybe throw some peroxide in.
 

polishfalcon420

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well I think Im going to give the dwc bubblponics a try when I get around to it. if you got any advice on nutes that would be great. have you ever used Iguana juice? is an all organic nute ok to use in this setup? if not what do you recommend I want to keep the mixing simple to start with. I dont really want to do something like add this much of this and that much of that o' and dont forget to add this too.
 

doniawon

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here are my plants after 4 days of burn and terrible growth using half the recomended dose of bushmaster IN the resivoire... now i need stretch master
 

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