Hydroponics

WWShadow

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Man, there are a lot of hydro systems to choose from! I decided not to buy any of them. I made 2 diy bubblers from black 27 gallon totes. I painted the lids white. I have 2 large air stones in each one. They look like they could benefit from one more. I am using regular veggies to try them out on. I started a bunch of different seeds in jiffy pellets. I wasn’t sure (at the time) exactly how to go about germinating them. Always had a garden growing up, but I haven’t touched a plant in over 20 years!
So far so good all that is in the res is water & a root stimulator, roots are going crazy!!!
I have seen some really huge root masses in this thread. How do the ppl that use an aero-flo handle the root mass?
I would encourage all the noobs ( I plan to reference it often) to read this entire thread (except the duplicate ?’s). Also read all the wisdom left behind by Al B. Fuct Thanks to all the wise growers on RIU!! Now if they would just change the laws where I live I could be happier, lol. I could just move…
 

Joker209

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Man, there are a lot of hydro systems to choose from! I decided not to buy any of them. I made 2 diy bubblers from black 27 gallon totes. I painted the lids white. I have 2 large air stones in each one. They look like they could benefit from one more. I am using regular veggies to try them out on. I started a bunch of different seeds in jiffy pellets. I wasn’t sure (at the time) exactly how to go about germinating them. Always had a garden growing up, but I haven’t touched a plant in over 20 years!
So far so good all that is in the res is water & a root stimulator, roots are going crazy!!!
I have seen some really huge root masses in this thread. How do the ppl that use an aero-flo handle the root mass?
I would encourage all the noobs ( I plan to reference it often) to read this entire thread (except the duplicate ?’s). Also read all the wisdom left behind by Al B. Fuct Thanks to all the wise growers on RIU!! Now if they would just change the laws where I live I could be happier, lol. I could just move…
Just remember with DWC too many bubbles are never enough haha. The more air you have in your water the stronger, healthier, and faster your plants will grow. I run all DWC in my grow room and I love it. I plan on going to aero or ebb and flow eventually but right now I am loving the simplicity of the DWC. I used to grow in soil for years and helped tend a friend of mine's garden (I knew more about growing haha) which was all hydroponics. He had about 5 different Hydro set ups lol. I had never grown my own nor did I even try setting up my hydro before due to noise n shit. (Parents...) I have my mother plants in soil and everything else in DWC and probably won't change that any time soon... Good luck on the grow and hope things turn out for you. Keep us updated man start a journal when you start. Check out the germination thread in my signature below on the right.
 

WWShadow

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So how much odor can I expect from 1 to 2 plants? Does they always produce a strong odor or is it only during the flowering stage? Also a question about SOG technique in Al's diagram show 4 trays. is the only difference in the trays the amount of nutes they recieve?Or am I missing something else?
 

Joker209

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Al has the same concept I was using many years ago. The first tub in flower is for the plants that are week 1 and 2, the next tub is 3 and 4 the next 5 and 6 and the last 7 and 8. I personally like a backup tub for those who don't look quite done at 8 weeks. Hope this helps. The nutes are typically the same (not exactly perfect obv)
 

Joker209

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I will help where I can but don't expect me to hold your hand through it all homie :D I will help if you ask me questions but honestly everything you need to know is on the last 59 pages dude. I can honestly say the only way to learn hydroponics is to try hydroponics. You should read up on hydroponics but be warned there is a lot of different things out there you could try. I am in controversy about what hydroponic setup I want to try next lol I run DWC and absolutely LOVE it! It has got to be 1 of the easiest hydroponics methods I have tried. I went with a 60 site aeroponic grow and it was disastrous. I killed everything a week after I started it but maybe it was just me or they are a lot of work. Idk which but eh not for me :P I tried DWC after that and fell in love lol Only way to know tho is to try it
 

WWShadow

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Al has the same concept I was using many years ago. The first tub in flower is for the plants that are week 1 and 2, the next tub is 3 and 4 the next 5 and 6 and the last 7 and 8. I personally like a backup tub for those who don't look quite done at 8 weeks. Hope this helps. The nutes are typically the same (not exactly perfect obv)
I read a post about that soemone had some that wasn't ready at the 8week mark & was gonna give'm another 2wks to finish up.
My test grow with the veggies is lookin pretty good..
I gotta build another system to move them into once I get the greenhouse built.
Hydroponics has become an obsession for me now, lol
Will the bubblers work for well clones & vegging mums?
 

Joker209

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Grow room from flower chamber
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Grow room from door
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Tabatha 4-15-10
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Tabatha 4-15-10 (Leaf)
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Tabatha 4-15-10 (Roots)
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Tank 1 flower 4-15-10
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Tank 2 veg 4-15-10 (2)
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If you go back a page or 2 you will see how I did my DWC step by step basically. I get great success with this as well as faster growth than soil. My ladies look beautiful and honestly if I skip a week or 2 on their flush they don't mind. Tabatha on the other hand if you forget her for a week she will start to wilt from drinking too much water lol
 

WWShadow

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hmmm, I got the cheap ass blue ones. Next run I make to Petsmart I'll check out what they have. the last pic, is that clones/seedlings & how many do you have in the tub? They look great! the leavese on Tabitha are huge!! I never imagined them getting that big! thanks for the pics & help. ONce my greenhouse is up the veggies will move into the DIY aeroflo I am gonna make & my 24 plant bubblers will work just fine for there intended use.
 

Joker209

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Cheap ass Wal-Mart air stones wont work... They get clogged the first week and you WILL lose plants... I run 2-4 air stones per tub depending on the air pump. I want to go with this air pump for my new setup... ~> 950GPH Airpump for $35 <~ the air stones are from Petco and you can order those online also... ~> Petco Air Stones <~ These are amazing for DWC and work great. They are the best I have used and I probably will stick with these.
"is that clones/seedlings & how many do you have in the tub? "
You ready for this answer?
There are 6 females and 1 males in that tub, almost all clones. Tabatha is actually a clone from a very dank and sweet mama. As you can see they are only under 2 dual tube shop lights. I bought daylight bulbs for them from Lowes. My fixtures are for T12 but work just fine for T8 and if you can get your hands on them HOT5 (that's High Output T5's) are the best if you are going with tube lights. Cfls work well also as you can see over Tabatha I only have 3 bulbs and she grows like that :D
 

WWShadow

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those are some good looking clones! I thought there had to be at least a dozen. My wal-mart stones are just gonna have to hold out another week, lol. I suppose I could alway just poke holes in the air lines. I have a enough of it....
 

Joker209

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I just used 1 of those plastic T's and made a loop to go under my plant with the air hose full of holes.
 

Joker209

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Hey UA? You are having troubles with your roots... What problems? If root rot is a problem are you using any maintenance chems? Cleaners? Buffers? What supplements and nutes are you using?
 

UrbanAerO

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house and garden van de zwaan= aqua flakes a&b,drip clean, root excelurator, bud xl, top booster. botanicare=silica blast, sweet, blast off, hydroplex. Mad farmers Nutz and ph up/down, M.O.A.B . maybe a few I missed but basically all of these. I think I have the root rot issue taken care of by cutting back the watering.
 

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