HydroRed's Horticultural Whorehouse

psychadelibud said:

I really need to learn how to grow hydroponics. I am sure it is easy, I am a soil man, born and raised but hydro has always tugged at my strings...

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I was in the same boat for awhile. Since I made a self watering system when using soil all I had to do was change the medium. Soilless medium and drain to waste is one of the forms of hydro. I admit I didn't want to go full blown coco so I found out about Basement mix and couldn't be happier . I only have 5'8 of head room to work with or I would consider a flood and drain.

Sorry to hijack your thread Red .

After grumbling about GLG in a previous post, I feel like an asshole now. Got my order in today and they hit me with 5 freebies (Cookie Wreck x Long Bottom Leaf) on top of the bogo of Bodhi packs and swagged me out with a kief container and some stickers. Needless to say I'm now eating crow and the sting from how long it took to arrive is gone lol

This is what I have finally chosen for my REG seed run:

"California Cannon" by Greenpoint Seeds ((Tahoe OG Kush x Stardawg))
"Ace High" by Greenpoint Seeds ((Lemon G x Stardawg))
"Girl Scout Cookies" Bagseed ((personal favor))
"Solo's Stash" by Bodhi ((HPK x Snow Lotus))
"Mothers Milk" by Bodhi ((Nepali OG x Appalachia))
"Plaza Boss" by @shorelineOG ((TX Roadkill x Shoreline))
"Roadkill Master" by Shoreline OG ((Master Kush x TX Roadkill))

GreenleafNutrients said:

try Coco Coir, Its fairly simple to manage, but still gets some really good hydro results!

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I need to try it out sometime too. One of the few "hydro" mediums I haven't played around with yet.

ChaosHunter said:

I was in the same boat for awhile. Since I made a self watering system when using soil all I had to do was change the medium. Soilless medium and drain to waste is one of the forms of hydro. I admit I didn't want to go full blown coco so I found out about Basement mix and couldn't be happier . I only have 5'8 of head room to work with or I would consider a flood and drain.

Sorry to hijack your thread Red .

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No worries brother post away. As long as folks stay civil Im good.

I'll bet the best of the bunch turn out to be mother's milk and California cannon. I grew out Sky Pilot and it turned out ok, but compared to others in my stable, it couldn't stick around. One problem is that it took 10 weeks to finish, not 8 or 9. That's a big factor for me in strains I grow because i dont use mother plants, but rather take clones off the current ones that are about to be flipped. If I recall, I also grew out hortilab's Sour star at the same time. It was pretty good too- grew really nice and agressively, but couldn't match the quality I got from Sour Power. I've got some unopened beans of Stardawg IX, and I'm not sure if or when I'll ever pop them. That 10 weeks to finish is awfully difficult to manage in a perpetual grow with my setup. My current best strains overall are Black Mamba #5, #4 (purple 9 week pheno), Lucky Charms, GG4, and Sour Power. Grease Monkey is almost done too, but may not yield well enough over the BM to take up more space over it, or the others. Vader OG looks good and is almost finished too, but looks like a strain that would have to be run in high numbers and density to get a decent yield. Also have 6 Citral Glue from Ethos which just got flipped to 12 n 12 tonight. I have high hopes for that one, but like everything else, only time will tell. Sorry to ramble, I just wanted to throw out some info on that Stardawg cross because I've seen your fast flip into flower and wanted to give you a heads up on the 10 week finish mine had.

Mcgician said:

I'll bet the best of the bunch turn out to be mother's milk and California cannon. I grew out Sky Pilot and it turned out ok, but compared to others in my stable, it couldn't stick around. One problem is that it took 10 weeks to finish, not 8 or 9. That's a big factor for me in strains I grow because i dont use mother plants, but rather take clones off the current ones that are about to be flipped. If I recall, I also grew out hortilab's Sour star at the same time. It was pretty good too- grew really nice and agressively, but couldn't match the quality I got from Sour Power. I've got some unopened beans of Stardawg IX, and I'm not sure if or when I'll ever pop them. That 10 weeks to finish is awfully difficult to manage in a perpetual grow with my setup. My current best strains overall are Black Mamba #5, #4 (purple 9 week pheno), Lucky Charms, GG4, and Sour Power. Grease Monkey is almost done too, but may not yield well enough over the BM to take up more space over it, or the others. Vader OG looks good and is almost finished too, but looks like a strain that would have to be run in high numbers and density to get a decent yield. Also have 6 Citral Glue from Ethos which just got flipped to 12 n 12 tonight. I have high hopes for that one, but like everything else, only time will tell. Sorry to ramble, I just wanted to throw out some info on that Stardawg cross because I've seen your fast flip into flower and wanted to give you a heads up on the 10 week finish mine had.

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Good info for sure. I do like to keep 8wk strains around just for that sole reason of trying to keep a 4 week harvest schedule. Im gonna have some time issues and stretch issues among other things I'll have to deal with on this reg seed run. My biggest concern is the "Ace High" as shes supposed to be a tall leggy one with a flower time up to 85 days. Tall sativas and long flower periods are 2 things I'm not well prepared to deal with in my rooms so this will be a test for me. I also likely encounter feed issues having multiple strains in one table all being fed the same. This is why I tend to stick with monocropping and try to run a lot of different strains with shorter flower times.
If I could find 1 keeper out of the whole reg seed run though, I'll be happy. If I had my way it would be of the "Mothers Milk".

Although I don't have the counts you guys do I still run into the same issues. If I run two different strains its most often a juggle for the same reasons you listed, feed schedule and height are the worst since I run a rez. Even different phenos of the same strain can be a pita.

A lot of the boutique strains are low yielders "marble sized nugs" and often finicky. I have a couple of reg packs myself to get through and try to preserve.

Looks like you're setting up one hell of a run. I have some shoreline genetics and a bodhi stash to get to at some point. Just trying to get better and more dialed in before I try growing the really expensive beans so i don't mess them up.

If you are looking into a Coco type medium might I suggest Tupur

HydroRed said:

ya, I was made aware its a low yielder but I promised I'd run it. Since its gonna be my only reg seed run for quite some time I figure If I get a girl she can be as wild as she wants haha

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my focus is changing more towards quality over yield my version of candyland is platinum cookies version of gsc & grandaddy purp she is probably not gonna be a large yielder but I'm excited about what the product she is gonna generate & hopefully the purp color is gonna have the gsc quality to go with it I haven't been this excited about a strain in awhile in getting ready to put a tub in this tent as it's so convenient to set the timer & res. feed

horribleherk said:

my focus is changing more towards quality over yield my version of candyland is platinum cookies version of gsc & grandaddy purp she is probably not gonna be a large yielder but I'm excited about what the product she is gonna generate & hopefully the purp color is gonna have the gsc quality to go with it I haven't been this excited about a strain in awhile in getting ready to put a tub in this tent as it's so convenient to set the timer & res. feedView attachment 4059032View attachment 4059034

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I've smoked some Candylabd nice smoke

I gave benefit of doubt when I decided to grow the clones I had of the Kosher Kush again after nanner fest that happened on the last run of KK. I had my reservations about chopping the KK momma when I did it, but Im glad I did. If there was even the slightest bit of doubt in my mind that the first round threw nanners due to my actions or stress -its completely gone now. This run of the KK has been virtually flawless and the plants couldnt be happier in an environment that is 100% dialed. Reserva Privada should scrap whatever garbo seeds they are selling cuz they are obviously prone to this. This is 100% genetics and I'm pissed I wasted time,lights,energy,nutrient,space or anything for that matter on this garbage strain they now try to call Kosher Kush. This is nothing like what I grew years ago and I noticed it from the first comment I made about it way back in this threads beginning when I first started growing it again. I'll never spend another dime on overpriced Reserva Privada gear again.


This is less than 5 weeks from flip. Do these plants look stressed, unhappy, or under/over fed to any of you?

Reserva Privada can eat a dick

ChaosHunter said:

Although I don't have the counts you guys do I still run into the same issues. If I run two different strains its most often a juggle for the same reasons you listed, feed schedule and height are the worst since I run a rez. Even different phenos of the same strain can be a pita.

A lot of the boutique strains are low yielders "marble sized nugs" and often finicky. I have a couple of reg packs myself to get through and try to preserve.

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My glue is about the only tall lanky girl I deal with on a regular....but shes totally worth it. These next 2 runs will be a challenge to say the least.

horribleherk said:

my focus is changing more towards quality over yield my version of candyland is platinum cookies version of gsc & grandaddy purp she is probably not gonna be a large yielder but I'm excited about what the product she is gonna generate & hopefully the purp color is gonna have the gsc quality to go with it I haven't been this excited about a strain in awhile in getting ready to put a tub in this tent as it's so convenient to set the timer & res. feedView attachment 4059032View attachment 4059034

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Thats about where I'm at these days. My top priority isnt weight. I have no need or demand for weight though I welcome it with open arms. Im about finding the keepers in a momma room and eventually just sticking with my "favorite 4". Until then, Im gonna keep running different strains that check all the boxes till I fill all 4 momma spots. At that point I'll probably be pretty content with that variety of 4 and just run rotating monocrops of each one.

HydroRed said:

I gave benefit of doubt when I decided to grow the clones I had of the Kosher Kush again after nanner fest that happened on the last run of KK. I had my reservations about chopping the KK momma when I did it, but Im glad I did. If there was even the slightest bit of doubt in my mind that the first round threw nanners due to my actions or stress -its completely gone now. This run of the KK has been virtually flawless and the plants couldnt be happier in an environment that is 100% dialed. Reserva Privada should scrap whatever garbo seeds they are selling cuz they are obviously prone to this. This is 100% genetics and I'm pissed I wasted time,lights,energy,nutrient,space or anything for that matter on this garbage strain they now try to call Kosher Kush. This is nothing like what I grew years ago and I noticed it from the first comment I made about it way back in this threads beginning when I first started growing it again. I'll never spend another dime on overpriced Reserva Privada gear again.
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This is less than 5 weeks from flip. Do these plants look stressed, unhappy, or under/over fed to any of you?
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Reserva Privada can eat a dick


My glue is about the only tall lanky girl I deal with on a regular....but shes totally worth it. These next 2 runs will be a challenge to say the least.


Thats about where I'm at these days. My top priority isnt weight. I have no need or demand for weight though I welcome it with open arms. Im about finding the keepers in a momma room and eventually just sticking with my "favorite 4". Until then, Im gonna keep running different strains that check all the boxes till I fill all 4 momma spots. At that point I'll probably be pretty content with that variety of 4 and just run rotating monocrops of each one.

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Man that sucks sorry for your troubles with those genetics

HydroRed said:

Im about finding the keepers in a momma room and eventually just sticking with my "favorite 4"

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Try and get a cut of the real exodus cheese. At first, I was ambivalent. Now I just want to sit and grind piles of it for that beautiful floral smell. Harvest in 52 days from flip.
It is one strain of weed you will be able to identify in a room full of weed, it is that unique. My sense of smell is a bit lacking, but it smells like a bag of sweets to me.

Super stable, super resistant. But get a cut, don't fuck with those coloured seeds.

Im debating just chopping everything down now and scrapping it. I've got other plants in the flower room I dont want to chance getting pollinated and having seeds. This is why I chopped last round a bit earlier than I wanted to. They threw nanners in weeks 7-8. I wonder if I can chop em out for now and they will stop throwing once they mature up a bit? Its hard to say since it is throwing so early this time compared to the last?? Also, it wouldn't be hard to miss one in the bunch either?

Im open to suggestions from folks at this point regarding what I should do about this crop. Honestly, I'm not concerned about the loss of the crop as much as I am about not finishing a complete run with Mega Crop like I had intended to do.

Yeah, working with seeds.....

Now when you get really smart, you let others fo the groundwork getting the best dank. Find the right momma and clone that bitch.

I do grow from seeds, but that is just outdoors and for entertainment.

In my small group, i've been designated "others doing the groundwork" that does the seed poppin lol
I'll check out getting my hands on a cut of the Exodus Chz. Its been a minute since I've run a cheese (which was DNA/Reserva Privada "Confidential Cheese" I believe) but it was a foxtail factory so I didnt run it again.

HydroRed said:

In my small group, i've been designated "others doing the groundwork" that does the seed poppin lol
I'll check out getting my hands on a cut of the Exodus Chz. Its been a minute since I've run a cheese (which was DNA/Reserva Privada "Confidential Cheese" I believe) but it was a foxtail factory so I didnt run it again.

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I hate foxtailing!

They are all derivatives of the UK exodus cheese. Bad ones.....

my current thoughts on megacrop this is a branch of the blackjack in my cob tent that since putting it in my tent a couple of weeks ago has been lacking in vigor & not reaching for the light like it should the pic on the left was before rinsing the tupur & switching to megacrop less than 48 hours ago maybe I could of corrected it by adding this or that but as far as I'm concerned there just might be something to this megacrop stuff that was the only change I made now I've got megacrop in both tents

First pic looks a bit like overwater. Could be wrong since I know nothing about Tupor. Either way, shes on the upswing and looking much better.

HydroRed said:

Anyone wanna guess which submersible pump stopped working because I forgot to plug it back in after unraveling cords last night?
Whoops haha
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I'll bet you a woman's fart and a horse bridle you never do that again .

frontline said:

I'll bet you a woman's fart and a horse bridle you never do that again .

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You give me too much credit haha