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SomeGuy

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I gotta learn how to make that golden goo!



Would hermie seeds look just like regular or feminized seeds? I'm pretty sure the one seed that I found on my lady was from her own doing but I've never really had this issue before. Knowledge for knowledge.
they will all look like seeds. plant made with hermie pollen tend to be feminine with a chance of hermaphroditic tendencies. Induced hermie will have less chance than a naturally occuring hermie of passing on that genetic trait. It can sometimes even be cloned out in the subsequent generations after seed.
 

SomeGuy

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Mo is on to it too now that he isnt going up north. I have to work :-( . I will text dez and let him know you want to make it out there Hy. I think he is pretty close to Mo, like within 20min. I think.
 

AquariusPanta

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they will all look like seeds. plant made with hermie pollen tend to be feminine with a chance of hermaphroditic tendencies. Induced hermie will have less chance than a naturally occuring hermie of passing on that genetic trait. It can sometimes even be cloned out in the subsequent generations after seed.
So you would then keep the hermie seed if one came to you?

Does anyone think harvesting in complete darkness, with the addition of like night goggles, would prove beneficial to the quality of dried herb in the long run? I question this as I lack extensive experience and know a little about photosynthesis, i.e. bud/branches being alive after being cut from stalk and light moving around the chlorophyl.
 

AquariusPanta

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thats an awful lot of hassle. don't give in to myth. Just cut the plant when ready and hang dry. :-) light... dark... doesnt matter.
Hahaha I've really come a long way with this last grow... I'm about open to any "myth" that bears with it a whiff of scientific legitimacy...

Your simplistic attitude though sure does come at me enticingly...
 

hyroot

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http://www.amaretechnologies.com/products.html

I just picked up 4 lights

I only opened 2 so far. Will hang them all tomorrow

here is the ss260 with Cree 5w chips.

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and the solare eclipse (se) 330. With Cree cxa 2025 cobs and 5w Cree chips and a uvb t5. With reflectors on the cobs. You can see the lense in my hand. The lenses screw off and on easily..

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355w with the uvb t5. 330w without. This light is huge... Oh and lenses are all 90 degrees. I don't know which chips the 5w's are. They kept changing what they were using. They are x lamp. Just not sure which. Their site will be more updated soon.
 
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hyroot

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Very cool to see COBs included :leaf: Nice reflectors and I love that the covers come right off. Any idea the color temp of the COBs?

I think 4500k. 95 cri. I could be wrong . I haven't turned on the light yet. I think it has red 630 and warm whites for the 5w. I just went over old emails to see what was said last. I'm not sure that's what they went with.. The design kept changing. It's got a pretty hefty heat sink though. The light weighs like 35 lbs. altogether
 

m4s73r

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Hey Hyroot, Ive read through this and 2 other of your threads. Somewhere i read that you use coco as your aeration amendment instead of like perlite or lava rock. Do you use that at 1/3rd of your peat and compost? Ive tried to find your soil recipe but not such luck.
 

pHarmerXxLEDxX

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thats an awful lot of hassle. don't give in to myth. Just cut the plant when ready and hang dry. :-) light... dark... doesnt matter.
There is no myth about it! The compounds on the plant that we are utilizing are comprised of the same secondary metabolites as the terpenes, terpenoids and ketones found in essential oils of other plants. They are very simple Carbon-Hydrogen-Oxygen chains meaning that they can degrade under light.

Take a look at this link, it covers it in pretty good detail the various effects on the terpenes, terpenoids, ketones and other related secondary metabolites that are harvested.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1541-4337.12006/full

"Light
Ultraviolet (UV) light and visible (Vis) light are considered to accelerate autoxidation processes by triggering the hydrogen abstraction that results in the formation of alkyl radicals (Choe and Min 2006). Correspondingly, laurel as well as fennel oil stored in the dark (Misharina and Polshkov 2005) basically underwent the same alterations as upon storage under light, namely a decline in eugenyl acetate, estragol, trans-anethole, and several monoterpenes as well as an augmentation of p-cymene, eugenol, and anisaldehyde. The same was true for lemon oil in which decreasing amounts of geranial, terpinolene, and γ-terpinene together with a rise in p-cymene have been observed (Fincke and Maurer 1974). However, compositional changes proceeded considerably faster when illumination was involved. Especially monoterpenes have been shown to degrade rapidly under the influence of light (Misharina and others 2003). The same study also reported on transformation reactions taken place in marjoram oil during storage under light that led to the formation of several unidentified minor components. Very recently, Turek and Stintzing (2011b; 2012) showed that changes in several essential oils were promoted under the impact of light, however, oils from varying plant species responded differently: While essential oil from thyme did not alter much, rosemary oil turned out to be very susceptible to imitated daylight that readily led to a changing chemical composition. This was mainly revealed by a considerable increase in p-cymene, camphor, and caryophyllene oxide concomitant to the degradation of β-caryophyllene and the monoterpenes β-myrcene, α-terpinene, as well as α-phellandrene. Also, one minor compound in lavender oil yet not further identified totally broke down when illuminated, while another unidentified substance was initially built up during the 1st month stored under light but degraded again upon advanced storage (Turek and Stintzing 2012). Such photo-artifacts induced by sunlight or by UV irradiation with a distinct spectral distribution were identified in stored essential oils from anise (photoanethole) and lemon (photocitral) (Miething and others 1990; Nguyen and others 2009). For the former, the light-induced photoanethole, identified as 4,4’-dimethoxystilbene (Figure 5C), was suggested to result from photocycloaddition between anethole and anisaldehyde (Miething and others 1990). Moreover, in sweet fennel oil, trans-anethole had completely oxidized to anisaldehyde or isomerized to cis-anethole (Figure 6) after 2 mo of storage at room temperature under light (Misharina and Polshkov 2005). trans-anethole, the main component in sweet and bitter fennel oil, was reported to be converted into cis-anethole when treated with UV rays or high temperatures, the cis-isomer being 10 to 12 times more toxic than the trans-form (Braun and Franz 1999). In accordance with these data, a range of photochemically catalyzed intramolecular isomerization reactions such as cycloaddition or trans-cis conversions of various monoterpenoids had been earlier described by Pfau (1972)."
 

SomeGuy

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Sorry... it does not make a shit bit of difference. Virtually all experienced growers cut whenever. This is myth. you don't need to chop plants in complete darkness. even drying is fine in lights as long as its not direct lighting. IE.. we are not continuing to grow the plant once chopped.

But hey.. if you want to buy into BS and do a shit ton more work just to make you feel good. be my guest.

You can ask:
@Mohican
@jigfresh
@BobBitchen

and many others if my stuff has suffered any quality issues. Dont give in to the hype.
 

hyroot

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Hey Hyroot, Ive read through this and 2 other of your threads. Somewhere i read that you use coco as your aeration amendment instead of like perlite or lava rock. Do you use that at 1/3rd of your peat and compost? Ive tried to find your soil recipe but not such luck.
yes a 1/3 coco. my mix is Cootz mix adjusted. Peat moss, coco, compost, worm castings (1/3 also), sometimes recycled soil.

per cu ft and depending on strain

1/2 cup - 3/4 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup - 3/4 cup crab meal
1/4 cup - 1/2 cup neem meal
1 cup oyster shell flour
1 cup glacial rock dust
1 cup basalt rock dust
1 cup bentonite (volcanic) rock dust.

last mix I did add a little pumice too..
 
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