I Can't Argue With That... Debate This Part 2
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wiseguy316
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this is true, if you just got a pedicure, you want your toes to look pretty in your closed casket.
wiseguy316
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And how will this solve the problem, they still have hands and tongues to violate with?
wiseguy316
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Here you go, give all welfare recipients motorcycles without helmets! Problems solved
Balzac89
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lorida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 1, 2011 5:58 a.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
(CNN) -- Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.
"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."
Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.
Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."
"Governor Scott's new drug testing law is not only an affront to families in need and detrimental to our nation's ongoing economic recovery, it is downright unconstitutional," said Rep. Alcee Hastings. "If Governor Scott wants to drug test recipients of TANF benefits, where does he draw the line? Are families receiving Medicaid, state emergency relief, or educational grants and loans next?"
Rep. Corrine Brown said the tests "represent an extreme and illegal invasion of personal privacy."
"Indeed, investigating people when there is probable cause to suspect they are abusing drugs is one thing," Brown said in the joint statement. "But these tests amount to strip searching our state's most vulnerable residents merely because they rely on the government for financial support during these difficult economic times."
Bath salts banned in Florida
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Joining in the statement denouncing the measure were Democratic Reps. Kathy Castor, Ted Deutch and Frederica Wilson.
Controversy over the measure was heightened by Scott's past association with a company he co-founded that operates walk-in urgent care clinics in Florida and counts drug screening among the services it provides.
In April, Scott, who had transferred his ownership interest in Solantic Corp. to a trust in his wife's name, said the company would not contract for state business, according to local media reports. He subsequently sold his majority stake in the company, local media reported.
On May 18, the Florida Ethics Commission ruled that two conflict-of-interest complaints against Scott were legally insufficient to warrant investigation, and adopted an opinion that no "prohibited conflict of interest" existed.
Also on Tuesday, Scott also signed a measure outlawing hallucinogenic designer drugs known as "bath salts."
"The chemical substances found in 'bath salts' constitute a significant threat to health and public safety," the governor's office said in a statement. "Poison control centers in Florida have reported 61 calls of 'bath salts' abuse, making Florida the state with the second-highest volume of calls."
The drugs "are readily available at convenience stores, discount tobacco outlets, gas stations, pawnshops, tattoo parlors, and truck stops, among other locations," the governor's office said.
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 1, 2011 5:58 a.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
- Gov. Rick Scott says measure saves tax dollars, provides "incentive to not use drugs"
- Democrats slam law, saying tests "represent an ... illegal invasion of personal privacy"
- Controversy arose over Scott's association with company that did drug testing
- Scott also signs bill outlawing hallucinogenic "bath salts" drugs
(CNN) -- Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.
"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."
Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.
Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."
"Governor Scott's new drug testing law is not only an affront to families in need and detrimental to our nation's ongoing economic recovery, it is downright unconstitutional," said Rep. Alcee Hastings. "If Governor Scott wants to drug test recipients of TANF benefits, where does he draw the line? Are families receiving Medicaid, state emergency relief, or educational grants and loans next?"
Rep. Corrine Brown said the tests "represent an extreme and illegal invasion of personal privacy."
"Indeed, investigating people when there is probable cause to suspect they are abusing drugs is one thing," Brown said in the joint statement. "But these tests amount to strip searching our state's most vulnerable residents merely because they rely on the government for financial support during these difficult economic times."
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Joining in the statement denouncing the measure were Democratic Reps. Kathy Castor, Ted Deutch and Frederica Wilson.
Controversy over the measure was heightened by Scott's past association with a company he co-founded that operates walk-in urgent care clinics in Florida and counts drug screening among the services it provides.
In April, Scott, who had transferred his ownership interest in Solantic Corp. to a trust in his wife's name, said the company would not contract for state business, according to local media reports. He subsequently sold his majority stake in the company, local media reported.
On May 18, the Florida Ethics Commission ruled that two conflict-of-interest complaints against Scott were legally insufficient to warrant investigation, and adopted an opinion that no "prohibited conflict of interest" existed.
Also on Tuesday, Scott also signed a measure outlawing hallucinogenic designer drugs known as "bath salts."
"The chemical substances found in 'bath salts' constitute a significant threat to health and public safety," the governor's office said in a statement. "Poison control centers in Florida have reported 61 calls of 'bath salts' abuse, making Florida the state with the second-highest volume of calls."
The drugs "are readily available at convenience stores, discount tobacco outlets, gas stations, pawnshops, tattoo parlors, and truck stops, among other locations," the governor's office said.
wiseguy316
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Missouri did also recently.
olylifter420
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Thats fucking stupid! Where on earth does welfare have the power to buy drugs?
canuckgrow
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What I want to know is when a welfare recipient gets a welfare check and spends it on dope,,,,,Who gets hurt? Who pays more? Do they get a second check??? because OOPPPS I spent the first one on dope. Sorry but the amount of scams involving a few hundred bucks in welfare payments is such a miniscule number in reality that this should be a non issue. But if you can make people believe it is an actual problem of epic proportions I can certainly see how it would be beneficial to take the stance they have.
But hey take a look at how much it costs us just to elect and employ these pollies screaming for the testing. Some pretty fat expense accounts....Lots of free meals, hotel rooms, "working vacations", Limo rides. Why is it some people just can't see woods for the trees?
Beardo hit the nail on the head with that one when he said it would cost way more than any savings.
But hey take a look at how much it costs us just to elect and employ these pollies screaming for the testing. Some pretty fat expense accounts....Lots of free meals, hotel rooms, "working vacations", Limo rides. Why is it some people just can't see woods for the trees?
Beardo hit the nail on the head with that one when he said it would cost way more than any savings.
sync0s
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Welfare is spent on drugs all the time. I know a kid whom his dad will give him money and pay his bills if he is without a job, but if he has a job he won't give him anything. This is kind of like welfare. Incentive to not work, let's move on and just get rid of welfare and stop with these annoying drug testing regulations that in all truth actually will cost tax payers more money