onlyproblem with that was that it somehow disabled my disc drives and even the support people said they didnt think it could be fixed w/o me forking over more cash than i got this one for. the term new computer was kinda misleading, i got it for $50 from a gal at work who upgraded to the newest windows system(boy did she ever regret that, lol) .the welcome backs are really appreciated guys. It's good to be back and get so many of them within suck a short time period, i doubted i'd get more than a few people. thanks guys.