I Feel That Dispensary's Are A Rip Off

UncleBuck said:

i was calculating based on my own experience as well.

one bag of fox farm for $14 (i can buy for as little as $12.50, but need to spend $2.50 on gas to get it, so the $14 bag is cheaper in the end) can fill 3 of my buckets. i do 6 buckets, so 2 bags per cycle = $28. add perlite, which is $18 for a huge bag that mixes 6 buckets. so $28 + $18 = $46 for one go around that does not pull a pound a month, as your original calculation said. if you want to pull a pound each month, double that.

don't forget the gas money required to get you to the store and back. and i believe that gas goes into a car, which costs money to buy, insure, and maintain.

don't forget that the plants take up a certain percentage of the space of the home, which costs money to rent or buy.

and don't forget that tents are not free and do depreciate, just like lamps, fans, and everything else (a good accountant always factors in depreciation).

and lights don't hang magically from the sky, you need hardware to do so. and you need to go to a store to get it. which costs money as well.

do you grow indoors in the summer? be sure to account for the air conditioning, which takes up many kilowatts.

do you water your plants with free water, or does it come from the tap? do you pay a monthly water bill and use a certain percentage of it on your plants? factor that in.

ever get bugs, mold, etc? factor in the cost to control those issues.

in any case, the calculation i come to is generally in the $105- $120 per ounce range for top shelf, indoor meds.

that is giving away my labor for free, which is in the range of 20-25 hours per week.

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fishwhistle said:

"Good pot isnt cheap and Cheap pot isnt good",everything has a cost to it be it in man hours tending your outdoor or in equipment and electricity tending your indoor garden.Good organic grown under the sun weed is great and i wish we could all do it that way but out of neccessity most have to grow underground indoors which runs costs up even higher.If big agribussiness gets involved in producing bud it will be way cheaper but who knows what youll be smoking,some genetically enhanced irradiated bud sprayed with chemicals to keep the bugs/disease away and then sprayed with purple dye to make it appear more appeasing to the eye that they will find out 20 years later gives you cancer?No thanks.I will choose to grow my own or support other like minded individuals and will gladly pay them a fair price for their sweat and overhead.There will always be sheep who just follow along with others and keep the dispensaries in businees because they are too lazy or just dont want to invest the time to grow their own and there is nothing wrong with that if it makes em happy.I do occasionally visit dispensaries and purchase a bit but mostly it is a novelty for me,I have been burning for longer than most on this board have been alive and its cool for me to see it finally coming out of the dark,I hope one day to be able to burn a fatty on my porch as easily as cracking open a beer without being judged by others negatively.Look at it like beer,you can grab a coors light for cheap or you can enjoy a nice handcrafted microwbrew,whatever blows your skirt up,but ultimately the choice is up to you,so if you dont like dispensaries or expensive weed dont patronize the people selling it,its that simple.

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guy incognito said:

8 x 3gal pots = 24 gallons of soil = 96 quarts of soil in a single 4x4 tent under 1,000 watt hps.

One tent comes down each month, meaning I use 96 quarts of soil every month.

64 quart bags of miracle grow moisture control soil is about $13. 96/64 x $13 = $19.50

I did forget to add the perlite into the equation. I'm still running strong on my second $20 bag, though I have been scaling up production as I learn. I would say less than $10/mo for the perlite, and certainly less than $40/mo for final soil mixture.

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budlover13 said:

So would you be happy receiving $250-300/oz for your "connoisseur" bud while letting me recieve $140/oz for my outdoor mids?

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UncleBuck said:

like i said earlier, i let my excess meds go for $5 g or so, which is almost exactly what it costs me to produce them and all i'm allowed to do under state law.

that is $140/oz, as i give no price breaks (that would be illegal, since production costs are the same for every gram i produce).

i would have no problem, if i was allowed, getting rid of it at $10/g, which is what the market will bear. would i feel bad about the 100% markup?

not bloody likely. we all need to eat.

i simply abide by what the market says.

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budlover13 said:

Then you and i see eye to eye. i'm not saying ALL bud should be at $5/g. Just that the market's supply and demand should be responsible for the prices. A dispensary with different grades of bud that are more scientifically rated. $5/g outdoor, $10 g good outdoor/indoor, $5-?/g for all high-high quality. i think it would work out.

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budlover13 said:

Nice ad hominem attacks Not(pun just worked out ).

Let me more clearly state my intent and hopefully can get a non-egotistical response.

An UNmAniPUlateD free market. If you think there is not MAJOR manipulation of market, especially this one, all the Cornell eduacation in the world won't help you understand my position.

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budlover13 said:

i'm seeing lights come on and a gathering of the masses!

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gfreeman said:

so variety is ultimately what we want. we want options with prices that correlate with quality. i understand

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NotYouAgain said:

...you're too blinded by ignorance to understand the economic implications of opening and running a dispensary. Please don't ever leave your line of work to start up a small business with your aversion to making a profit.

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NotYouAgain said:

The market is manipulated by the same thing that regulates all free market economies, it's known as the invisible hand. There is no OPEC of marijuana dispensaries. A dispensary could charge 20% less than others and see an increase in sales, but since PoS isn't an economy of scale, who's to say they would see an increase in revenue?

Could explain why food grown domestically isn't marked up 500% of PoS purchase price, and why food produced in foreign countries may have that mark-up, but the purchase price by PoS retailer is substantially lower.

Everything is relative, and you're too blinded by ignorance to understand the economic implications of opening and running a dispensary. Please don't ever leave your line of work to start up a small business with your aversion to making a profit.

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UncleBuck said:

see4, is that you?

being harsh and mean and insulting didn't do you too well the first time around, now did it?

perhaps we can tone it down and disagree without being disagreeable.

besides, it's getting all kumbaya in here. even the op has realized we should be able to charge for meds at whatever price the market bears.

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gfreeman said:

kumbaya!?
kumbaya means camp fire, which means smores.
where the fuck are the smores? budlover you listen here, and listen close.
you holding out on smores and im going to be getting rancid real quik ya hur?

*IDEA*
has anyone ever tried making cannibus smores? i think this fkn fire deserves some cannibus +smores. in that order.

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