I invited the police in and gave them a tour, seriously

ttystikk

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Well good thing this whole episode did not lead into a shit sandwich .

What kind of carbon filters were you using so I'll know to avoid that brand?

Where they just old and worn out or where they actually that shitty?
1.5m x 16" Can filter with a 12" flange and exhaust fan, a well known brand. Therefore, it's a reasonable assumption that I must have been doing something wrong one way or another.
 

schuylaar

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Yeah, but I DID spend a Fuck ton of money on scrubbers and they didn't stop the smell.

I'm not pissed because I got 'caught'- I wasn't breaking the law and I'm not a criminal. I'm pissed because I spent all that money on the filters and my neighbors were still inconvenienced.
i like "phresh".
 

Milovan

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I had an ex girlfriends freak girlfriend narc on me in
in N. Hollywood, Cali and the cops came to my house
without a search warrant and they said they heard I got lot
of pot plants growing and asked if they could see and I
let them in to take a look. I had 30 or so small plants in my yard at
the beginning of my grow last summer showed them 3
recs and they didn't care about my plants and were cool about it
and 1 of the cops said he is trying to get his partner to smoke
some pot to calm him down and they laughed and asked pointers
on cloning cause they seen my clone set up and running also.. Everything turned out fine and haven't seen them since
the beginning of last summer.
Every snitch should be shot dead and used as fertilizer for
pot grows. Seriously I would do this in a heartbeat if I could
get away with it.
 

Dr.Pecker

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If they can smell it then they can get a warrant. I wouldn't just let them in I wouldn't even open the door. I bet they watch you now. Cops busted a friend of mine several years ago by renting the house across the street. I guess they were watching him for months.
 

ttystikk

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If they can smell it then they can get a warrant. I wouldn't just let them in I wouldn't even open the door. I bet they watch you now. Cops busted a friend of mine several years ago by renting the house across the street. I guess they were watching him for months.
Take a deep breath and repeat after me; it's LEGAL in Colorado... so we can stop being paranoid. It does take awhile for it to sink in, I'll grant you that!

If they wanted to arrest me, they had their chance. The fact that they saw the op and chose not to is admissible in court as to law enforcement intent and discretion. They can't take it back.

Not that they want to. They came in by invitation of the homeowner, looked around and saw a nice home with no crackheads, no mirrors with chopped up pills, no guns, no thugs with gang tats- just a nice, clean op with nowhere near the number of stems I'm currently authorized for.

In other words, they're doing their job; looking for trouble- and having not found any here, they're back out on the street doing their jobs... which is looking for trouble. As a longtime citizen and taxpayer in this town, that's exactly what I want them to do.

The idea that the cops and I see eye to eye on weed is new for me, too. But I'm pretty sure I can get used to it!
 

Dr.Pecker

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Take a deep breath and repeat after me; it's LEGAL in Colorado... so we can stop being paranoid. It does take awhile for it to sink in, I'll grant you that!

If they wanted to arrest me, they had their chance. The fact that they saw the op and chose not to is admissible in court as to law enforcement intent and discretion. They can't take it back.

Not that they want to. They came in by invitation of the homeowner, looked around and saw a nice home with no crackheads, no mirrors with chopped up pills, no guns, no thugs with gang tats- just a nice, clean op with nowhere near the number of stems I'm currently authorized for.

In other words, they're doing their job; looking for trouble- and having not found any here, they're back out on the street doing their jobs... which is looking for trouble. As a longtime citizen and taxpayer in this town, that's exactly what I want them to do.

The idea that the cops and I see eye to eye on weed is new for me, too. But I'm pretty sure I can get used to it!
I know what you're saying its just hard for me to grasp it. I live in a medical state and they still look for reasons to bust a patient. And we're talking about sick people with a reason to have the card.
 

ttystikk

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I know what you're saying its just hard for me to grasp it. I live in a medical state and they still look for reasons to bust a patient. And we're talking about sick people with a reason to have the card.
Colorado is something of a special case because we were first. That meant that there aren't a bunch of loopholes written into the legislation by self-serving assholes to give cops an excuse to Fuck with sick people, like that of most other states'.

We've also had a solid fifteen years to sue the Fuck out of police departments who did not play along at first- one early precedent setting case was right here in Larimer County; Google the Tim Masters vs the Larimer County sheriff's department case. Not only did he successfully fight off a blatantly illegal prosecution, but then he successfully sued the local Sheriff's department for hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages for the plant's they confiscated and destroyed. Their attitudes changed dramatically the day that verdict was read out in civil court and it's been a whole different ballgame here ever since.
 

hempyninja309

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If my doctor approved me to have 75 plants and 24oz dry weight can I can still be fined and or arrested in certain areas of Colorado? I am confused to how this works.
 

ttystikk

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If my doctor approved me to have 75 plants and 24oz dry weight can I can still be fined and or arrested in certain areas of Colorado? I am confused to how this works.
Because the amendment allows home ruled municipalities the option to enact more restrictive laws than the amendment calls for.

The city of Fort Collins has a city ordinance in place limiting any detached single family residence to no more than twelve plants- and for safety reasons, none at all in any dwelling sharing a wall or more with any other.

In my case, the police were responding to a legitimate complaint- excessive smell. They were at great pains not to be or appear intimidating or confrontational.

They ASKED to see my grow, specifically my carbon filter- and offered to help me make sure it's working properly. They informed me of the ordinance, admitted that because of my paperwork it was the only violation, and ASKED me to come into compliance. They ASKED me if thirty days was sufficient.

There is a misdemeanor charge the city could apply, but the officers were clear that they weren't out to issue tickets, they wanted to work with growers to bring them into compliance- and to reduce offensive odors that bother neighbors.

Quite frankly, I can't imagine Detroit police or Oakland cops or Philly's phinest behaving like this, at all. I do hope they prove me wrong.

The twenty four ounce limit remains in force, there are no local ordinances I'm aware of that interfere with that- and that's for transportation. You can use bales of pot for furniture in your house if you want, there's no law against it.

Any ticket issued can be contested, in court under your rights to defend yourself. Conviction can result in potential fines but I'm not sure if jail time can be ordered- unless you piss off the judge and get a contempt of court citation, or fail to comply with terms of probation.

If you find that you need more than twelve stems to grow enough for your personal use, I'd say you're doing something wrong somewhere.
 

hempyninja309

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Because the amendment allows home ruled municipalities the option to enact more restrictive laws than the amendment calls for.

The city of Fort Collins has a city ordinance in place limiting any detached single family residence to no more than twelve plants- and for safety reasons, none at all in any dwelling sharing a wall or more with any other.
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So no growing inside apartments/duplex's in Fort Collins even if confined to a grow tent?
 

panhead

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When i 1st set up the large co-op grow i did everything in my power to beat the cops to the punch .

I wired everything one step above code , used dedicated lines to each run with a gfci at the end of the runs & afci's at the breakers .

Mounted all the ballasts outside the room with 6 inches air circulation around the mounted ballasts , used a fire break over top of all the ballasts as well as a ceiling mounted automatic fire extinguisher, no extension corrds to overheat , all fans wall mounted , fire retardant material over cieling & mini fire extinguishers over the light hoods , rez's burried 90% below grade to prevent flodding & fire extinguisher for every ballast & one outside the room , complete control of room & ballast area temps & humidity .

I called in the city building inspector & pulled permits for all the work & had it all signed off after completion , then paid to have the fire marshall do an inspection of the facility before i brought in a single plant , he signed off on the fire saftey prevention planning & gave me congradulations .

When cops tried getting in using saftey violations as an excuse i had about 30 pages of paperwork showing i was above compliant in all building codes & above fire saftey minimums , they fumbled round a bit then asked nicely if they could come in , had to tell em no way hose a cause they were diks to start with .

I love watching them walk away pouty .
 

ttystikk

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When i 1st set up the large co-op grow i did everything in my power to beat the cops to the punch .

I wired everything one step above code , used dedicated lines to each run with a gfci at the end of the runs & afci's at the breakers .

Mounted all the ballasts outside the room with 6 inches air circulation around the mounted ballasts , used a fire break over top of all the ballasts as well as a ceiling mounted automatic fire extinguisher, no extension corrds to overheat , all fans wall mounted , fire retardant material over cieling & mini fire extinguishers over the light hoods , rez's burried 90% below grade to prevent flodding & fire extinguisher for every ballast & one outside the room , complete control of room & ballast area temps & humidity .

I called in the city building inspector & pulled permits for all the work & had it all signed off after completion , then paid to have the fire marshall do an inspection of the facility before i brought in a single plant , he signed off on the fire saftey prevention planning & gave me congradulations .

When cops tried getting in using saftey violations as an excuse i had about 30 pages of paperwork showing i was above compliant in all building codes & above fire saftey minimums , they fumbled round a bit then asked nicely if they could come in , had to tell em no way hose a cause they were diks to start with .

I love watching them walk away pouty .
See my comments about Detroit cops.

And, good for you! It sounds like you were extremely thorough.

All of my electrical work has been either done by or safety checked by a master electrician. I sleep a lot better.
 

Milovan

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If they can smell it then they can get a warrant. I wouldn't just let them in I wouldn't even open the door. I bet they watch you now. Cops busted a friend of mine several years ago by renting the house across the street. I guess they were watching him for months.
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Sorry but not in N.Hollywood which has way more pot shops then
any city in the
entire world. N.H. cops didn't even care about pot before MMJ.
They never did and never will. They wouldn't even think of wasting their time watching and
a lot of the cops here smoke pot as well. Seriously.
Maybe cops watch people for months where you live but not where I live lol. :D
Los Angeles and the SFV is the unmatched pot mecca of the world like no other anywhere.
 
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